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Post by snarfdude on Jul 22, 2014 20:29:10 GMT -5
Sadly for us I would say the majority of these shows did find their way into the trash. When I started working at an AT20 affiliate I met the PD Who had worked for the station since the 80s, and the station had aired Casey and his various incarnations since 1985, as well as airing both Casey and Shadoe during the appropriate time. As big of a fan as he was of the shows he tossed them every week and never thought a thing of it. When I was hired 2005 he was happy to give me AT20 every week until we went to the FTP system (and then dropped the show in a format change) and I have about two years worth of AT20 CDs but it kills me to think of 20 years of discarded treasures from that station. But to them it was never a big deal and that is why I am so grateful for the likes of Shannon Lynn and the support he gets from the folks at Premiere That was standard practice for any station airing the material, though I know some stations would give them away as prizes to the right caller, sell them off for charity at a reasonable price, or other things. Seltech Satellite systems, when it was still around, was the distributor in Canada for Casey's Top 40 and WW one in general. It was fed via satellite every thursday afternoon, minus the US spots being edited out after dubbed to reel tape. I got a couple CT40 programs and a pile of other WW one shows on CD by knowing a guy who worked there. I also got tip offs on satellite feeds of shows. The station I worked for was cool at using the production studios to record if anyone else wasn't. I got a few CT40s that way. The horror story was the actual program discs they had were often turned into coasters by cutting out the label from the record I was told. Most of the people in radio had no idea as to the value. I got shows from a friendly PD in my province at the time. I got a more then a few of Charlie Van Dyke and one with Dave Roberts as fill ins that way. I also bought them out of the US from dealers through Goldmine Magazine who were selling them for $10-15 shortly after they aired. Look what they are now. The "Classic" reairings have certainly generated interest. The first station I worked for ran Soundtrack Of The 60s for 3 1/2 of the 4 years. I have most of the shows from that time, as they never trashed them until I started to work there. Just loaded up the car. Even had contest forms, memos, and from another station, I got a nice demo folder with demo show, ad slicks and a quote of the cost of the show for that station. Not sure if they picked it up, as that was the only show I found, but still nice to stumble on when they cleared out the vinyl. Pete Battistini is to be thanked as the main reason for the archive. Shannon was in the right place at the right time and his interest translated into the venture because he was the only one doing the shows and just as important, wanted to. |
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Post by ccwolffenc on Dec 2, 2014 20:17:03 GMT -5
Rob Durkee - was on the AT40 staff during the Shadoe Stevens years (listen to just about any of Shadoe's shows and you will hear Rob's name in the closing credits), wrote the book American Top 40: Countdown of the Century, and generally considered one of the top experts regarding American Top 40. Part right, Matt-Rob Durkee actually joined when Casey Kasem was still hosting the show, and Rob would later become the most valued member of Shadoe Stevens' "Whiplash Acrobatic Ensemble," namely his AT40 crew when he took the reins of American Top 40. Rob Durkee and Pete Battistini are the best experts in finding out information on all things AT40 and the Billboard charts at the time. Rob is also the guy credited with linking Premiere Radio Networks (which airs the classic AT40 shows, as well as the new edition with Seacrest) with businessman turned remaster expert Shannon Lynn, who helps re-engineer the classic Casey shows for rebroadcast in digital format. Rob, Pete, and Shannon are the "triad" when it comes to keeping the memory of the original American Top 40 alive and well. |
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Post by BrettVW on Dec 4, 2014 11:09:10 GMT -5
Rob Durkee - was on the AT40 staff during the Shadoe Stevens years (listen to just about any of Shadoe's shows and you will hear Rob's name in the closing credits), wrote the book American Top 40: Countdown of the Century, and generally considered one of the top experts regarding American Top 40. Part right, Matt-Rob Durkee actually joined when Casey Kasem was still hosting the show, and Rob would later become the most valued member of Shadoe Stevens' "Whiplash Acrobatic Ensemble," namely his AT40 crew when he took the reins of American Top 40. Rob Durkee and Pete Battistini are the best experts in finding out information on all things AT40 and the Billboard charts at the time. Rob is also the guy credited with linking Premiere Radio Networks (which airs the classic AT40 shows, as well as the new edition with Seacrest) with businessman turned remaster expert Shannon Lynn, who helps re-engineer the classic Casey shows for rebroadcast in digital format. Rob, Pete, and Shannon are the "triad" when it comes to keeping the memory of the original American Top 40 alive and well. Incorrect. Rob joined the staff in 1989 |
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Post by ccwolffenc on Dec 5, 2014 8:53:36 GMT -5
Part right, Matt-Rob Durkee actually joined when Casey Kasem was still hosting the show, and Rob would later become the most valued member of Shadoe Stevens' "Whiplash Acrobatic Ensemble," namely his AT40 crew when he took the reins of American Top 40. Rob Durkee and Pete Battistini are the best experts in finding out information on all things AT40 and the Billboard charts at the time. Rob is also the guy credited with linking Premiere Radio Networks (which airs the classic AT40 shows, as well as the new edition with Seacrest) with businessman turned remaster expert Shannon Lynn, who helps re-engineer the classic Casey shows for rebroadcast in digital format. Rob, Pete, and Shannon are the "triad" when it comes to keeping the memory of the original American Top 40 alive and well. Incorrect. Rob joined the staff in 1989 Last I remembered, Brett, I DID hear Rob Durkee mentioned in the credits of AT40 in August 1988 on the last show Casey did for ABC/Watermark. He officially became part of the show in 1989 as Shadoe's best stats man, but I'll put it on a stack of Bibles that Durkee joined right before Casey's departure. If I'm wrong, OK, so be it. |
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Dec 6, 2014 8:49:56 GMT -5
Guys ... we were serious when we said that there is to be NO discussion of trading shows publicly or privately on this site. A relatively new member who decided to violate that rule now finds himself banned, which is what we said would happen. PLEASE...we want to keep this forum open. Posts like that will jeopardize it. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Post by shadster on Jan 14, 2015 20:46:49 GMT -5
I'm surprised this question has not been asked yet, but here goes. I understand the rules regarding AT40 trading, does that also include other shows, such as Weekly Top 40? Countdown America? American Dance trax? A blanket policy for all trading or trading restricted to just AT40? (whether they are Shadoe Stevens/Ryan Seacrest shows or not).
Just checking for clarification.
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Post by SFGuy on Jan 15, 2015 3:58:43 GMT -5
I'm guessing yes for all of the above since it all falls under copyright laws.
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2015 11:00:30 GMT -5
I'm guessing yes for all of the above since it all falls under copyright laws. Ditto what he said--if the shows are copyrighted, then by law they can only be sold or distributed by the owner of the copyright. Doesn't matter if it's AT40 or any other radio show. |
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Feb 4, 2015 14:00:55 GMT -5
I'm guessing yes for all of the above since it all falls under copyright laws. Ditto what he said--if the shows are copyrighted, then by law they can only be sold or distributed by the owner of the copyright. Doesn't matter if it's AT40 or any other radio show. Correct. Thanks. |
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jul 27, 2015 10:37:28 GMT -5
Sadly we now have to point out what should have been the obvious: Posts advertising the Internet broadcasts of old shows without the permission of the copyright holders are also a violation of this site's rules, with the same potential consequences.
Thank you to those who have brought recent posts along these lines to our attention.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 13:53:45 GMT -5
Sadly we now have to point out what should have been the obvious: Posts advertising the Internet broadcasts of old shows without the permission of the copyright holders are also a violation of this site's rules, with the same potential consequences. Thank you to those who have brought recent posts along these lines to our attention. I learned in a leadership role at work that sadly even things we think should be obvious aren't to some. |
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Post by trekkielo on Jul 27, 2015 19:18:32 GMT -5
I don't post anything like this, but just how is someone suppose to know who has permission from the copyright holders or not?! It isn't exactly public information!
Please explain.
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Post by retroguy on Jul 27, 2015 22:09:20 GMT -5
Scott, I am not sure what you are referring to. Please elaborate and give examples.
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Post by BrettVW on Jul 28, 2015 11:33:20 GMT -5
My guess is if it is not a terrestrial station airing the current Premiere show package or the SXM airings -it isn't legal. Plain and simple.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:46:14 GMT -5
Here's a better way to say it. There may be slip ups. It's possible that now or in the future there could be Internet only stations legally carrying it, I dont know. However, there are stations that have aired it that you absolutely know are doing so illegally. Those are not to be advertised in any way here. If it is brought to yours or the boards attention someone is illegally airing it on a station you mentioned and you continue to do so, you are in violation. I don't think Scott yearns to kick people off the board for honest, non dealt with mistakes. There's a difference.
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