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Post by Mike on Feb 24, 2012 14:58:30 GMT -5
However, Reality is that most stations do not air the promos or tell their listeners that AT40 exists on their stations.This is going to confused the AT40 listeners who only puts on the station or goes to the web for streaming on the time in which AT40 is set to begin. I will say that two of my local stations do at least some promotion of the show. The DJ on WCRZ lets you know the show's next up at least a few times while he's on, and I've heard Premiere-produced promos voiced by Casey for the show on WIDL (even though they do air it Saturdays at 6 AM) - heck, I heard one just the other day. That said, both of those only run the 80s. WCRZ is owned by Townsquare Media, though their stations aren't made to be so similar to each other like, say, Clear Channel's are. WIDL (which doesn't stream) is locally-owned. As for the third local station, WHNN, sadly I don't otherwise listen to them enough to gauge how they do for promotion.
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Post by Dale Latimer on Feb 24, 2012 17:39:08 GMT -5
I'll say this much... those of us who help maintain the station lists will be kept busy as the info starts to filter in.
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Post by BrettVW on Feb 24, 2012 18:21:42 GMT -5
I feel like the majority of stations that air the four hour optional version will actually air the first hour an hour earlier than the usual start time. I highly doubt many stations will allow a 10am or Noon end time to interrupt their regular programming and go into the afternoon (just experience from working in radio and experience with various affiliates). It makes more sense for a 9am-Noon station to make it 8am-Noon or a 7am-10am station to make it 6am-10am, as that keeps the show, essentially, in the same time slot.
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Post by BrettVW on Feb 24, 2012 18:25:04 GMT -5
^True about many listeners being asleep. However, I'm probably one of the few who prefers that the countdown start at 6 or 7 a.m. As much as I love listening to countdown shows, and as much as they're addicting, they're also somewhat of a burden. And if I can get them out of the way by 10 a.m. on Saturday, I'm free to do whatever I want the rest of the day without having to be around my radio. I agree wholeheartedly with this. That's why I love Sunday nights on WQSR 8pm-Midnight, it gives me the whole day to have free and to look forward to the countdown at night. A mid afternoon airing sort of "kills" the whole day, despite my love of the countdown. Also -- these shows are placed in these time slots because as much as we love them, there is definitely a "tune out" factor for the casual listener. This way, the "casual listener" doesn't necessarily notice the show (and the ratings don't go down) and those who want to listen to the countdown will have appointment tune in at a time when listenership may not be as high. And by airing in a, say, 7am-10am time slot, the 9am hour will typically have the highest number of listeners, as well as the more recognizable songs, so casual listeners will hear that Casey is on and may enjoy it for 20 or 30 minutes, but it wont affect the sound of the station they are accustomed to hearing.
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Post by blackbowl68 on Feb 25, 2012 7:35:21 GMT -5
First of all, I'm grateful that there are radio stations in the US that air these classic AT40 shows at all! If the size of this message board is any indication, most stations would not have enough interest in these replays compared to their average audience amounts.
Second, I'm in total agreement of the most ideal time to air the show is early in the morning on Saturday or Sunday. American Top 40 is the type of show you discover by accident rather than intentionally look for. I feel that's how the show acquired the majority of its fans over the years. A diehard fan will set their clock to the show. A casual fan will have the radio tuned to the station carrying the show when going for their morning coffee or shower.
If you air the show in the afternoon, it will likely be mostly women listening as the men will be working, playing (or watching) sports, fishing, or traveling out and about.
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Post by mrjukebox on Feb 25, 2012 9:14:37 GMT -5
That is great news-I'm happy that the folks at Premiere finally came to their senses.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2012 9:37:43 GMT -5
^True about many listeners being asleep. However, I'm probably one of the few who prefers that the countdown start at 6 or 7 a.m. As much as I love listening to countdown shows, and as much as they're addicting, they're also somewhat of a burden. And if I can get them out of the way by 10 a.m. on Saturday, I'm free to do whatever I want the rest of the day without having to be around my radio. This is the main reason I record the shows--don't have time to listen to them on the weekends with kids activities, church, etc. I can put the past weekend's shows on in my car and listen to and from work during the week. Makes the commute go by much faster too. This is why I record them as well. Add what you said to weekend sporting events and you've got me. I stopped listening in the pre-Internet days because as I got older and more involved in church and school, the shows air time interfered with it. Plus this was the mid 90s and I wasn't really into the music at the time anymore. I didn't realize I'd come to consider even that the golden years compared to what's on now. Computer programs that allow recording and Internet radio have really helped keep my interest alive.
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Post by erik on Feb 25, 2012 10:25:24 GMT -5
WMGN isn't going to carry the 4 hour versions of the 1979 shows Is this already confirmed? If so, that is unfortunate. WMGN was one of the stations I thought would be most likely to carry the four hour edition. They presently offer ten hours of AT40 on the weekends - two separate '70s shows on Saturday plus the '80s show on Sunday. They have also aired AT40 marathons on certain holidays. I've often wondered if one of the programmers at that station is a personal fan of the show to explain why they are generous with their Casey programming. Since the initial news was announced earlier this week, I'm really starting to wonder how many stations will actually play the fourth hour. Maybe I'm wrong and I will be happy to eat my words when that time comes, but I'm afraid that many of us here will be sorely disappointed when the next 1979 program hits the airwaves. My prediction: When Premiere airs the next 1979 show, the '70s discussion board will turn ugly again and finally overtake the '80s for total number of responses. The best thing for AT40 fans to do is to provide feedback to the stations that carry the '70s edition.
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Post by erik on Feb 25, 2012 10:40:20 GMT -5
I predict that this year's year-end countdown will be the Top 50 Songs of 1979 Or they could play any of the complete year-end countdowns from 1974-1978 over a two-week period. (The Top 100 of 1975, please!) More likely, it will only be Part 2 (Top 50) of the year-end special from 1974-1979. Stations will have the option to play the Top 50 while a majority will opt to play the Top 37 or Top 38 in the three hour version.
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Post by erik on Feb 25, 2012 10:48:03 GMT -5
I actually set my alarm for Saturday mornings, prepare a pot of coffee, sit down with my first cup, and listen to the '70s edition at 5:00 AM (6:00 AM Eastern time). That's my favorite way to start a weekend. By the time the show is over, it's 8:00 AM and it frees up the rest of my Saturday morning.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 25, 2012 12:48:21 GMT -5
WMGN isn't going to carry the 4 hour versions of the 1979 shows Is this already confirmed? If so, that is unfortunate. WMGN was one of the stations I thought would be most likely to carry the four hour edition. They presently offer ten hours of AT40 on the weekends - two separate '70s shows on Saturday plus the '80s show on Sunday. They have also aired AT40 marathons on certain holidays. I've often wondered if one of the programmers at that station is a personal fan of the show to explain why they are generous with their Casey programming. Since the initial news was announced earlier this week, I'm really starting to wonder how many stations will actually play the fourth hour. Maybe I'm wrong and I will be happy to eat my words when that time comes, but I'm afraid that many of us here will be sorely disappointed when the next 1979 program hits the airwaves. My prediction: When Premiere airs the next 1979 show, the '70s discussion board will turn ugly again and finally overtake the '80s for total number of responses. The best thing for AT40 fans to do is to provide feedback to the stations that carry the '70s edition. Remember all we really need is one station that streams to carry it. I know some of you that have tighter, busier schedules than some of us will be inconvenienced a bit. But having a 4 hour show at a bad time is better than not having it at all.
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Post by reachinforthestars on Feb 25, 2012 12:53:53 GMT -5
Is this already confirmed? If so, that is unfortunate. WMGN was one of the stations I thought would be most likely to carry the four hour edition. They presently offer ten hours of AT40 on the weekends - two separate '70s shows on Saturday plus the '80s show on Sunday. They have also aired AT40 marathons on certain holidays. I've often wondered if one of the programmers at that station is a personal fan of the show to explain why they are generous with their Casey programming. Since the initial news was announced earlier this week, I'm really starting to wonder how many stations will actually play the fourth hour. Maybe I'm wrong and I will be happy to eat my words when that time comes, but I'm afraid that many of us here will be sorely disappointed when the next 1979 program hits the airwaves. My prediction: When Premiere airs the next 1979 show, the '70s discussion board will turn ugly again and finally overtake the '80s for total number of responses. The best thing for AT40 fans to do is to provide feedback to the stations that carry the '70s edition. Remember all we really need is one station that streams to carry it. I know some of you that have tighter, busier schedules than some of us will be inconvenienced a bit. But having a 4 hour show at a bad time is better than not having it at all. Amen to that! They can air the program starting at 2am on a weekday for all I care even when I have to get up for work in the morning. But I will still be there listening to all 4 hours. Listening to AT40 is not an inconvenience to me. It is a privilege.
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Post by marv101 on Feb 25, 2012 19:08:15 GMT -5
I do listen to the countdowns in bits & pieces over the course of the weekend, starting with the top 20 on KOLA on Saturday mornings when I get off work, and catching the rest of it that afternoon or evening on another station.
My point about the fact that starting the countdowns at 6AM local time makes no sense to me not only because the content of Casey's show (even if it's from a year or is inundated with a genre of music that you can't stand) is far superior to what you'd usually hear on your hometown radio station at that hour, and is very likely to be voicetracked and/or automated.
The advent of PPM in many more markets has led to the discovery that midday listening levels on Saturdays are substantially higher than previously believed, and that many stations which air it earlier aren't getting their money's worth, let alone miss out on possibly increasing their station's revenue stream, and pleasing their beancounting masters in the process.
Granted, many of us can listen to the show in its entirety while doing whatever we do on weekends, or listen to it on our computers in its entirety--'appointment listening', if you will.
Thank goodness for this Internet thingamajig, huh?
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Post by JMW on Feb 26, 2012 11:06:07 GMT -5
I finally heard from the PD of WBBG; he said they don't yet know if they'll pick up the first hour.
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Post by kahunaburger61 on Feb 27, 2012 3:05:07 GMT -5
I contacted my local PD here in Omaha by email but haven't got response yet.
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