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Post by matt on Feb 23, 2012 15:24:09 GMT -5
Easy folks--let's just enjoy the fact that we are soon going to be hearing all four hours of these shows. Let's face it--none of us should question how big of fans of the show each other is. Otherwise, why would we go to the trouble of reading and writing posts on a regular basis? Not to mention listening to just about every show each weekend...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2012 16:30:43 GMT -5
Easy folks--let's just enjoy the fact that we are soon going to be hearing all four hours of these shows. Let's face it--none of us should question how big of fans of the show each other is. Otherwise, why would we go to the trouble of reading and writing posts on a regular basis? Not to mention listening to just about every show each weekend... +1
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 23, 2012 17:03:51 GMT -5
My hunch is that stations that are playing both shows and all 4 hours of the 80s show now are the ones more likely to play the 4 hour shows from the late 70s. We only need a handful to do so of course so I would not get too worried about how many stations do not play all 4 hours.
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Feb 23, 2012 17:08:49 GMT -5
That's fantastic!! Guess it never hurts to keep beating that drum... Did anyone besides me wonder if something was up based on Larry Morgan's opening of the Feb. 10, 1979 show? Sure sounded like he was opening a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th hour of a normal 4-hour show--instead of what we've heard at the start of all other Oct 78 - Dec 79 shows. Not sure if there was a correlation, but it would be a coincidence if there wasn't. Guess we can speculate if Pete B's recent question about how to handle the 4-hour shows also was prompted by this change. The optional original first hour for the 2/10/79 show was offered to international affiliates only. Foreign AND domestic affiliates will get the option effective with the next 4-hour show.
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Feb 23, 2012 17:11:59 GMT -5
Easy folks--let's just enjoy the fact that we are soon going to be hearing all four hours of these shows. Let's face it--none of us should question how big of fans of the show each other is. Otherwise, why would we go to the trouble of reading and writing posts on a regular basis? Not to mention listening to just about every show each weekend... Thank you, wahoo. Enough of this already, folks. This board is about celebrating AT40 (and its relatives)...not knocking one another.
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Post by reachinforthestars on Feb 23, 2012 18:46:11 GMT -5
I'll let the board ponder that question. But from my perspective, anyone who agrees with chopping up an original AT40 program even when they have the option of not doing so is not on the same page with me. I don't have to be on the same page with you. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me or anyone else less of a fan than you are. Let me help you out with my original question, I've been on this board since 2002. If I wasn't a true fan, that wouldn't be the case because I'd have never looked for it to begin with. It was actually you who questioned your level of interest in the 70's AT40 programs (see quote below from the other thread). I don't doubt that you are a huge fan of the 80's program. I was just following your lead about possible doubts that you feel the same way about the 70's programs. Nothing more than that. Sorry you misunderstood my post. I will also say this, while I like the stuff from the 70s I'm not an over the top lover of that decades music. I'm a much bigger 80s fan so if the 80s shows were 3 hours, and a 4 hour one had come later and they were joining in progress I might feel different.....
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Post by reachinforthestars on Feb 23, 2012 19:06:12 GMT -5
If that is true (which I don't necessarily agree with), then it sounds like those radio people are in the wrong business. And now you are taking to telling folks who don't think like you they are in the wrong business? If PDs, DJs, and radio station personnel dislike: "the job of downloading the shows and entering them into an on- air playout system - or even playing the shows manually!" (which is the original quote that Frankster made when you commented that they are not like us) ....then I would say they are in the wrong business because these tasks are even easier than what the radio forefathers worked with before the latest technology came into play. And you know, I have never met a DJ who hated that part of the job in the old days. That was when they felt they were contributors to radio and not just an automated puppet. I think much of the confusion you have with my posts are misunderstandings of the intent. So feel free to PM me to discuss these posts in more detail if further clarification is needed. This thread should be a celebration.
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Post by at40petebattistini on Feb 23, 2012 20:46:37 GMT -5
Guess we can speculate if Pete B's recent question about how to handle the 4-hour shows also was prompted by this change. wahoo, Very perceptive on your part. The addition of the 1st hour of the first 15 months of the 4-hour show makes a lot of sense for radio stations. The 1978-79 music era is still within a sought-after demographic time period so, by adding another hour of Casey Kasem and AT40 programming, stations add another hour of potential improved weekend ad revenue. Moving on to a really wild thought... What if, however, the first 15 months of AT40 (July 1970 -- October 1971) were four hours and the show was then reduced to 3 hours for the rest of the decade. ( Four hours in 1970 and 1971? Are you kidding me? Wow! They would've been loaded with oldies and LP tracks!) If the late 60s/early 70s era is in fact losing its advertiser appeal -- using this scenario -- we would probably never hear the entire 4 hours of those early shows. And I can't help but add a quick note of irony about AT40 ending the 1970s with 15 months of programs distributed to stations each week on 4 LPs. And compare that to the first 15 months of AT40 in the 1970s with shows going to stations weekly on 3 reel tapes. Perhaps an oddball observation -- but consider the source. ;D
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Post by marv101 on Feb 23, 2012 21:22:59 GMT -5
Since many of the biggest singles of 1978 & 1979 are in the libraries of many of these affiliates, including the Classic Hits/Oldies & AC stations, the extra hour could conceivably provide a nice 'bounce' for them both revenue-wise and listening-level wise.
AC powerhouses have certainly gotten more adventuresome over the years, and format behemoths such as KOST & WLTW have plenty of late 70s material in their libraries, a fact which hasn't gone unnoticed by many of the AC stations which carry either countdown, as do plenty of heritage Oldies/Classic Hits powerhouses such as WOGL, WORC, KOLA & KQQL.
Lots of those stations should move the show back to midday Saturday from the absurd 6AM local time timeslot; the advent of PPM in tons of markets has shown conclusively that midday listening levels on Saturdays are SUBSTANTIALLY higher than the industry has believed for decades.
More listeners=more revenue.
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Post by statenislandfan on Feb 24, 2012 9:28:15 GMT -5
The stations that will air the 4 hour format will probably begin the show at the same time as the 3 hour show. As Marv101 puts it revenue. The reason being the regular listener,who doesn't know about this board, will be confused on whether the show starts at 8am or 7am.Unless you listen to a station during the week and they give you full warning that AT40 is a 4 hour show on their weekend of broadcasting. However, Reality is that most stations do not air the promos or tell their listeners that AT40 exists on their stations.This is going to confused the AT40 listeners who only puts on the station or goes to the web for streaming on the time in which AT40 is set to begin.
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Post by marv101 on Feb 24, 2012 11:36:00 GMT -5
That makes plenty of sense, but what does not make any sense whatsoever is airing the show at a time when a huge percentage of your listeners are sound asleep.
Judging by the staggering number of stations which air the countdowns at 6 or 7 AM, it seems to me as if the PD who placed it in such an absurd timeslot just wanted to 'get it out of the way and over with' before their regular programming begins, a substantial portion of which is very likely do be voicetracked or automated, resulting in a product which is anything but compelling, and certainly not as compelling as any of Casey's stories, as well as his LDDs.
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Post by mkarns on Feb 24, 2012 13:42:44 GMT -5
That makes plenty of sense, but what does not make any sense whatsoever is airing the show at a time when a huge percentage of your listeners are sound asleep. I think we can all agree on that, and so would Casey. I heard a clip on YouTube of an outtake of him recording a station specific AT40 promo, in which he says "Listen to American Top 40, every Sunday morning at 2...(pause)...TWO!?"
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Post by johnnywest on Feb 24, 2012 13:45:43 GMT -5
^True about many listeners being asleep. However, I'm probably one of the few who prefers that the countdown start at 6 or 7 a.m. As much as I love listening to countdown shows, and as much as they're addicting, they're also somewhat of a burden. And if I can get them out of the way by 10 a.m. on Saturday, I'm free to do whatever I want the rest of the day without having to be around my radio.
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Post by artsmusic on Feb 24, 2012 14:34:21 GMT -5
Nice to see the response to this, hopefully stations will make room for the 4-hour version. I would agree that the ones who run the 70s and 80s (especially back-to-back) are likely candidates for the extra hour. Something else to keep pizzzzza busy updating station lists.....
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Post by matt on Feb 24, 2012 14:46:55 GMT -5
^True about many listeners being asleep. However, I'm probably one of the few who prefers that the countdown start at 6 or 7 a.m. As much as I love listening to countdown shows, and as much as they're addicting, they're also somewhat of a burden. And if I can get them out of the way by 10 a.m. on Saturday, I'm free to do whatever I want the rest of the day without having to be around my radio. This is the main reason I record the shows--don't have time to listen to them on the weekends with kids activities, church, etc. I can put the past weekend's shows on in my car and listen to and from work during the week. Makes the commute go by much faster too.
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