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Post by dukelightning on Nov 11, 2016 21:28:55 GMT -5
Ryan goofed a little when he said "It hits the stores November 8th". Talking about when Glamour magazine would hit the stores. Correct date probably but it sounded like he was talking about the future. Plus I thought he recorded the show on Wednesday so that date was already in the past. Nice to have Hailee Steinfeld help him count down the last few songs. Still in the back seat of my Rover.
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Post by bear on Nov 12, 2016 4:21:59 GMT -5
I think shows are recorded on mondays or tuesdays.
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Post by dukelightning on Nov 18, 2016 21:59:24 GMT -5
Starting to wear out the back seat of my Rover. So 6 weeks at #1 for the Chainsmokers is the longest since Katy Perry in 2014. You know that Breakout song by Dua Lipa reminded me quite a bit of another Katy Perry song.."Hot N Cold". Not sure how much to be impressed by Rihanna having more top 40 hits than everyoneexcept the Beatles, Elvis, Elton and Madonna. I know it is easier to amass hits in this day and age. But that is the most this century so it counts for something. 21 Pilots releasing a live album only on vinyl. What's up with that?!
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Post by bear on Nov 23, 2016 11:14:25 GMT -5
Spolier:
That boy ruins the magic of seven weeks at number 1 of Closer, again.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 16, 2016 18:48:54 GMT -5
I am not sure I buy that from Ryan that the last time there were 3 rebound #1 songs in a year was 1966. In 1979, "Le Freak" came back for a third time, "I Will Survive" and "Hot Stuff" also rebounded a second time. Must be counting Freak as a 1978 rebound #1 because that is when it first rebounded back to the top. Anyway, that 50 years is a little older than my Rover on the left so guess I better get back into the back seat of it. Yes I know it is a Land Rover they are referring to. Still love how a #1 hit and a huge one at that mentions a car I own. Talking about the Chainsmokers' "Closer" of course.
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Post by mkarns on Dec 17, 2016 1:47:03 GMT -5
I am not sure I buy that from Ryan that the last time there were 3 rebound #1 songs in a year was 1966. In 1979, "Le Freak" came back for a third time, "I Will Survive" and "Hot Stuff" also rebounded a second time. Must be counting Freak as a 1978 rebound #1 because that is when it first rebounded back to the top. Anyway, that 50 years is a little older than my Rover on the left so guess I better get back into the back seat of it. Yes I know it is a Land Rover they are referring to. Still love how a #1 hit and a huge one at that mentions a car I own. Talking about the Chainsmokers' "Closer" of course. I think he's using Radio and Records and then Mediabase for chart data during its existence, and Billboard only for before R&R began in 1973. There were no rebound #1's in R&R in 1979. |
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Post by adam31 on Dec 22, 2016 12:56:12 GMT -5
I appreciate Ryan trying to state musical history facts and honor Casey with a mention now and then. It's good to know the show is getting back towards what AT40 represents and not a radio "TMZ". However, I think he needs to stick to recent facts (like from 2000 or since he started hosting), and leave out contradictory things from the 60s-90s. I'd be good, if he has to go back that far, to do what Casey did. (25 years ago, the #1 song on AT40 was....etc)
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Post by woolebull on Dec 23, 2016 15:01:31 GMT -5
I am not sure I buy that from Ryan that the last time there were 3 rebound #1 songs in a year was 1966. In 1979, "Le Freak" came back for a third time, "I Will Survive" and "Hot Stuff" also rebounded a second time. Must be counting Freak as a 1978 rebound #1 because that is when it first rebounded back to the top. Anyway, that 50 years is a little older than my Rover on the left so guess I better get back into the back seat of it. Yes I know it is a Land Rover they are referring to. Still love how a #1 hit and a huge one at that mentions a car I own. Talking about the Chainsmokers' "Closer" of course. I think he's using Radio and Records and then Mediabase for chart data during its existence, and Billboard only for before R&R began in 1973. There were no rebound #1's in R&R in 1979. If using Billboard, I still think Ryan is technically correct. "Le Freak" did not rebound in the calendar year of 1979 if you are just looking at the year 1979 as a single entity. But I wouldn't argue if he had said, "this is the first time it has happened since 1979", either. The answer probably lies with what mkarns said about using R&R. When Sia got to her fifth week at number one with "Cheap Thrills" earlier this year, Ryan talked about how she had just matched the number of weeks Sia's uncle Colin Hay had with the group Men At Work and "Down Under". "Down Under" did spend five weeks at the top of R and R, compared to 4 on Billboard (Interestingly for our conversation, "Down Under was the last number one song to rebound to number 1, I believe, on American Top 40 until sometime after the discontinuation of the Hot 100 as the source for the AT 40 chart). Back to 1979: you actually would have four number ones that rebounded, just not all in 1979: Le Freak, I Will Survive, Hot Stuff, and the only number one to rise to the number one position in two different decades: "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" by Rupert Holmes. Of course, "Escape" would not rebound in 1979, but it did start its first run at the top on 12/22/79. |
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Post by woolebull on Dec 23, 2016 15:07:03 GMT -5
On the subject of rebounds: When was the first song to rebound to the top spot after, "Down Under" in 1983 on American Top 40? I know it didn't happen until some point after 11/30/91 and I know that "Another Night" and "On Bended Knee" swapped three different times in 1994/95. Did any songs rebound between December of 1991 and December of 1994 to the top?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2016 18:15:22 GMT -5
"Ordinary World" did on American Top 40. It was #1 for 2 weeks, fell out the week of 2/27/93, then returned for 5 more weeks the week of 3/6/93. Shadoe even brings up "Down Under" saying it was the last time it had happened until now.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 6, 2017 21:45:55 GMT -5
Ryan goofed a little when he said "It hits the stores November 8th". Talking about when Glamour magazine would hit the stores. Correct date probably but it sounded like he was talking about the future. Plus I thought he recorded the show on Wednesday so that date was already in the past. Nice to have Hailee Steinfeld help him count down the last few songs. Still in the back seat of my Rover. Hailee evidently used that as an audition because she will be guest host next week. As for this week, we have a situation where there is a change in the #1 position after the unpublished weeks. Ryan gives the Chainsmokers 9 weeks at #1 as a result. But I always split the difference when that happens so I would give "Closer" 8 weeks on top and 2 weeks so far for "Side to Side". At 9 weeks they were 1 week short of the record for this decade. Glad the Chainsmokers decided to have Halsey duet on that song. The guys had originally recorded the song by themselves. You know had they released that version without Halsey, we would have consecutive #1 hits that have 2 versions, one a duet and one not. As that is the case with "Side to Side". And I definitely prefer the duet between Ari and Nicki. They play the Ari solo record on the HAC show and it pales in comparison to the duet IMO. Song really kicks in when Nicki starts rapping. Yes that is the first time 2 solo female artists have teamed up to hit #1 twice. They did it in 2014 with "Bang Bang". |
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Jan 7, 2017 8:52:57 GMT -5
I think he's using Radio and Records and then Mediabase for chart data during its existence, and Billboard only for before R&R began in 1973. There were no rebound #1's in R&R in 1979. If using Billboard, I still think Ryan is technically correct. "Le Freak" did not rebound in the calendar year of 1979 if you are just looking at the year 1979 as a single entity. But I wouldn't argue if he had said, "this is the first time it has happened since 1979", either. The answer probably lies with what mkarns said about using R&R. When Sia got to her fifth week at number one with "Cheap Thrills" earlier this year, Ryan talked about how she had just matched the number of weeks Sia's uncle Colin Hay had with the group Men At Work and "Down Under". "Down Under" did spend five weeks at the top of R and R, compared to 4 on Billboard (Interestingly for our conversation, "Down Under was the last number one song to rebound to number 1, I believe, on American Top 40 until sometime after the discontinuation of the Hot 100 as the source for the AT 40 chart). Back to 1979: you actually would have four number ones that rebounded, just not all in 1979: Le Freak, I Will Survive, Hot Stuff, and the only number one to rise to the number one position in two different decades: "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" by Rupert Holmes. Of course, "Escape" would not rebound in 1979, but it did start its first run at the top on 12/22/79. What about Real McCoy's "Another Night" and Boyz II Men's "On Bended Knee"? Didn't any of them rebound to #1 before the end of 1994? And didn't both those songs rebound to #1 a third time? |
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Post by woolebull on Jan 7, 2017 19:28:07 GMT -5
If using Billboard, I still think Ryan is technically correct. "Le Freak" did not rebound in the calendar year of 1979 if you are just looking at the year 1979 as a single entity. But I wouldn't argue if he had said, "this is the first time it has happened since 1979", either. The answer probably lies with what mkarns said about using R&R. When Sia got to her fifth week at number one with "Cheap Thrills" earlier this year, Ryan talked about how she had just matched the number of weeks Sia's uncle Colin Hay had with the group Men At Work and "Down Under". "Down Under" did spend five weeks at the top of R and R, compared to 4 on Billboard (Interestingly for our conversation, "Down Under was the last number one song to rebound to number 1, I believe, on American Top 40 until sometime after the discontinuation of the Hot 100 as the source for the AT 40 chart). Back to 1979: you actually would have four number ones that rebounded, just not all in 1979: Le Freak, I Will Survive, Hot Stuff, and the only number one to rise to the number one position in two different decades: "Escape (The Pina Colada Song)" by Rupert Holmes. Of course, "Escape" would not rebound in 1979, but it did start its first run at the top on 12/22/79. What about Real McCoy's "Another Night" and Boyz II Men's "On Bended Knee"? Didn't any of them rebound to #1 before the end of 1994? And didn't both those songs rebound to #1 a third time? I mentioned that in the next comment down from the one you quoted. Actually, almost exactly what you said! But yes...they both rebounded three times, I believe, to the top. |
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Post by woolebull on Jan 14, 2017 0:15:14 GMT -5
Last week, "Bad Things" for the third straight show was the biggest mover. I'm not sure how big a song it is going to be, but if history is any judge, it will be going to number one. Here is a link to a thread I started a few years ago. Every song that was mentioned that did it three times went to number one, including some of the biggest songs in AT 40 history: at40fg.proboards.com/thread/3533/most-times-song-biggest-mover |
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 14, 2017 21:42:33 GMT -5
Oh boy or should I say oh girl! Hailee said that "I Don't Wanna Live Forever" by Zayn and Taylor Swift moved 26 notches (40 to 14) and is the biggest mover since "You're So Vain" in 1972. So we have declared over the last few weeks as various chart achievements were mentioned that everything is based on R&R or Mediabase. With one exception, if it occurred before either existed. Well this one is from the 'before either existed' time frame. So that means we are talking the Hot 100. And "You're so Vain" moved 28 notches back then.
I have to gather that no song on the R&R chart which started in October 1973 ever moved more than 26 notches and the same for Mediabase once that replaced R&R for AT40. That is the only scenario where they would have to go back to 1972 and btw, nothing moved more than 26 notches within the top 40 between December 1972 when YSV moved 28 notches and October 1973 when R&R debuted.
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