AT40 Ryan show these weekends

[dukelightning]

Wow you heard a different edition of the show, obviously the American version because I heard the international edition. And all he said on that one was that it was the biggest drop since 1993 without mentioning what song it was that dropped or how many notches it dropped. Btw, something else happened on the show that probably has not happened since the 20th century either. The 2 songs that were tied for the biggest climb at 6 notches were "Body Like a Back Road" by Sam Hunt and "Humble" by Kendrick LaMar (back to back). BLABR is a former #1 country song and "Humble" is the current #1 urban otherwise known as R&B song. Unless it happened with either Faith Hill's "Breathe" or Lonestar's "Amazed" in 2000, I would think you have to go back to the early 80s or earlier for the last time that the 2 biggest climbing songs were from those 2 genres. Alternatively, you can probably count on one hand the number of times that a country song was the biggest or tied for the biggest climber in the last 35 years.

Edit: I heard the American edition just now and he did not say it either. Maybe there was a later edition they did where he added that in but why do that without correcting the top 3 recap? Strange stuff. But he is right about what song it was in 1993. I checked out all the 1993 charts yesterday. In any case, this is the biggest drop on a monitored based chart. In 1993 the R&R chart that CT40 used what not yet based on monitoring and as a result, you could get some volatile chart movement that may have been spurious.

[mkarns]

In addition, there was another mistake later in the show. After #11 Ryan was supposed to play Fifth Harmony's "Down" as a Breakout (not yet a chart hit), but instead a recent hit with the same title by Marian Hill was played. Someone on staff evidently took a too-long lunch break this week....

[dukelightning]

This is strange how you and I are hearing different things on these shows. I have both the American and international editions of the show and both have a song there that sounds like Fifth Harmony. I am very familiar with that Marian Hill song, a fave of mine and I know it is not that song. So it still might be a mistake but it is not Marian Hill's "Down" that they played. Might need a third opinion.

[mkarns]

These errors were pointed out in the Pulse Music Board thread on this week's show. Maybe they've since been corrected.

[statenislandfan]

Down by Fifth Harmony was played on I Heart Radio between songs 11 and 10 on Show #17-26. I noticed also in the last few weeks as the song is playing, Ryan's voice is stepping into the vocal.

[dukelightning]

A cruel irony in the countdown this week in view of the news about Chester Bennington and the apparent cause of his death. A song debuts whose title is "1-800-273-8255". As Ryan said, it is the number for the suicide hotline. A phone number whose title is not sung in the song btw. A gripping song nonetheless.

[bear]

sounds like Lennon and another one bites the dust and hit me with your best shot in 1980

[dukelightning]

Bruno Mars does indeed fall short of the top 10 with "Versace on the Floor". Peaked at 18 so he hit the top 10 on AT40 with his first 16 releases. Mariah Carey did so with her first 18 releases although that was on CT40. Not sure about this record that was almost matched. Lowest peaking hit in AT/CT40 history to spend 5 or more consecutive weeks at its position is "You Dropped a Bomb on Me" by the Gap Band. It was at #31 for 5 weeks. Hailee Steinfeld has now spent 5 weeks in a row at #30 with "Most Girls". Cannot beat that record obviously but I did not think that record would ever be approached once the infamous star rule that allowed the Gap Band to set it, was discontinued.

[mkarns]

Sept 10, 2017 13:16:21 GMT -5 dukelightning said:

Bruno Mars does indeed fall short of the top 10 with "Versace on the Floor". Peaked at 18 so he hit the top 10 on AT40 with his first 16 releases. Mariah Carey did so with her first 18 releases although that was on CT40. Not sure about this record that was almost matched. Lowest peaking hit in AT/CT40 history to spend 5 or more consecutive weeks at its position is "You Dropped a Bomb on Me" by the Gap Band. It was at #31 for 5 weeks. Hailee Steinfeld has now spent 5 weeks in a row at #30 with "Most Girls". Cannot beat that record obviously but I did not think that record would ever be approached once the infamous star rule that allowed the Gap Band to set it, was discontinued.

The previous week Ryan noted that Bruno Mars' first 16 AT40 hits all went top 10 and rhetorically asked if "Versace" would be his 17th. A Ryan Seacrest jinx? This is probably one of many such.

I do remember seven years ago (August-September 2010) The Script sat at #34 for six straight weeks with "The Man That Can't Be Moved" (apt title, that.) But that wasn't its peak position; it bumped up a notch to #33 before dropping to #40 and then off.

[dukelightning]

Hailee is at #30 for a 6th week and Ryan said it may be a first. Nothing else since he is the anti-Casey and anti-Shadoe when it comes to AT40 hosts giving details on chart records. Back to 1982 for the only song I am aware of that spent 6 weeks at its peak position outside the top 10. That was "What Kind of Fool Am I" at #21 for Rick Springfield. Nope there was also Billy Joel's "Allentown" that was at #17 for 6 weeks. But since each of those had its 6th week essentially guaranteed because of the star rule, "Most Girls" may be the first song to spend 6 weeks at its peak position legitimately (outside the top 10).

So the Taylor Swift #10 debut happens and since Ryan did not give the details about it, I will. Means there have been a pair of #9 debuts and a pair of #10 debuts in the part of AT40 history that counts. Isaac Hayes in 1971, Diana Ross in 1980, Lady Gaga in 2011 and Taylor Swift. And nothing higher because those 1992-95 charts are bogus IMO.

[johnnywest]

Sept 17, 2017 17:52:25 GMT -5 dukelightning said:

So the Taylor Swift #10 debut happens and since Ryan did not give the details about it, I will. Means there have been a pair of #9 debuts and a pair of #10 debuts in the part of AT40 history that counts. Isaac Hayes in 1971, Diana Ross in 1980, Lady Gaga in 2011 and Taylor Swift. And nothing higher because those 1992-95 charts are bogus IMO.

He did mention that it was the highest debut since "Born This Way" in 2011. But the Diana Ross stat doesn't count in this case since AT40's history is now R&R going back to the fall of 1973.

The Isaac Hayes stat was mentioned in the Hot AC version.

[dukelightning]

And this past week is the week that it happened. Or so it would seem...that a top 10 debut on AT40 using a reputable chart falls short of the #1 spot for the first time. Taylor drops from 4 to 5 and with Portugal The Man replacing her at #4, leapfrogging in the process, I don't see her rebounding at all. Btw, Ryan also said with Liam replacing Niall at #1, that it was the first time a solo artist replaced another solo artist originally from the same group. Said the closest that it came to happening previously was when George Harrison replaced Paul McCartney and Wings in 1973. That he is not counting that as the first time it happened obviously means he counts Paul & co. as a group instead of just Paul as a solo artist. Casey commented on that billing similarly a few times in the 70s.

[johnnywest]

Actually "Look What You Made Me Do" does hit #1 this weekend, but it looks like it will fall short on the Hot AC version after debuting at #10.

[dukelightning]

That means it moves from 5 to 1. An unusual move there. Seems like it has been quite awhile since a move like that into the #1 spot has been made. Last time a 5 to 1 move happened on AT40 CHR was on 1/9/16 when Justin Bieber did it with "Sorry". Last time before that was 5/30/15 so it appears to be happening once a year.

[johnnywest]

Yes, Ryan mentioned the "Sorry" stat in his intro.