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Post by BrettVW on Jun 27, 2016 19:02:18 GMT -5
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Post by BrettVW on Jun 27, 2016 19:09:32 GMT -5
The podcast is a fantastic 54 minutes if you have it. Lots of respect for Kid as a radio guy after listening to this.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 19:39:52 GMT -5
Like we've talked about here and in personal exchanges, the show is a shell of what it used to be. It seems like when shows end their distribution deal with Premiere and it's not re-upped, they just start to exist with no real life to them. I am sure that is because a lot of stations were forced to carry them and when they no longer have to, they stop. I'm fine with this show ending and maybe he can talk to Rigdon Osmond about doing the same thing. It was a great run for a show based strictly on nostalgia.
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Post by BrettVW on Jun 27, 2016 20:06:00 GMT -5
Listening to the podcast gave me a lot of respect for Kid and his career and I learned a lot. And without saying it, you could definitely tell he sees Backtrax as one of his greatest successes, but also as something that has run its course. Despite my criticism, Backtrax USA was a hugely influential show in the industry and deserves the praises it got in its heydey. It's definitely time though. And Kid touches on this in the podcast.
I would love to see both Backtrax USA and Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 retire themselves sooner than later. I would hope they would both do nice, modest sendoffs when the time comes. It's just tough to hear them both keep trudging on year after year.
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Post by Jessica on Jun 27, 2016 21:03:56 GMT -5
I agree that Backtrax should end, as well as Rick Dees Weekly Top 40. I listened to a bit of his current Top 40 show and Rick just sounds old and sounds like he has no energy left. I don't mean to be ageist and I shouldn't really be telling someone when to retire but he just sounded disinterested and you can just hear it in his voice, as if to say "I still have to do this?". I get that he's been in radio a LONG time and may not have the same passion but I think it may be time to hang it up. Same with Backtrax. When I discovered Backtrax around 2003/2004 I was so excited. Two hours of 80s music was definatley music to my ears (sorry) but as the years went on the show was getting stale, same obviously with the 90's show, they play the same songs over and over and have the same sound clips. Eventually I noticed a lot of stations dropping the show and I don't blame them. I turned my attention to other radio shows (like AT40's 80s and WT40 80s/90s but that has its own issues). I guess my point here is that it's time to end Backtrax and Rick's show. I haven't listened to Backtrax in months and when I finally made myself listen again it was the same stale boring show (I have no idea why I was expecting anything different). Kid Kelly should be proud, not many shows can say they lasted 20+ years but it's time to end. End on a good note Kid Kelly, please.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jun 27, 2016 21:26:55 GMT -5
BrettVW, thanks for sharing. I'll check out the podcast later in the week when I get some more time. I wholeheartedly agree, I think it's time for Backtrax and Rigdon Osmond to hang it up. They certainly had their fun in the sun, and now they're sunburned (out). Bad joke...but anyway... Much respect to both guys for all they've done. I've certainly enjoyed listening to them over the years (mostly in the 1990s and early 2000s).
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Post by kani on Jun 27, 2016 23:20:49 GMT -5
Wow.. I don't know what to say. I've been listening to Backtrax 80s for 2003, and started 90s in 2007. Ive stopped listening in fall 2012 when my station has dropped the programs. I did felt sad because these were the best songs ever, I occasionally listened the 90s few months later until end of 2013 or early 2014 when I noticed these songs have been unchanged, that goes same for 80s. One time I listened to both these several weeks ago, and still stale and unchanged. I wonder when will be the last time for Kid Kelly to go off the air?
I also wish Weekly Top 40 for all formats CHR, HAC, 80s and 90s should end soon because it's still stale and retros are still repeating last year and I haven't listened to these since. Current charts makes it uninteresting when HAC and CHR almost mix up songs charting as most doesn't match mediabase, and the fact that #1 song is same for HAC and CHR exact time! Recurrent songs are staying more than 40 weeks, some longer than AT40! And short spanned songs fell out quicker, like high in #20 or mid 20ish. And some debut songs for non-exculsive songs are in high #20ish when songs in mediabase stayed for few months charted slowly.
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Post by palmer7 on Jul 1, 2016 20:13:26 GMT -5
It seems to me that WT40 has no specific source for their chart data, thus rendering their chart to be useless. Perhaps Billboard airplay data would be appropriate for them (since everyone uses Mediabase).
However, what appalls me more is that you can hardly find Mr. Dees anywhere on terrestrial radio, at least in my area.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 21:24:46 GMT -5
So you want him to lose money on the show. Ok, got it.
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Post by kani on Jul 1, 2016 21:57:10 GMT -5
So you want him to lose money on the show. Ok, got it. Ok from what you're saying, that's very negative |
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Post by adam31 on Jul 2, 2016 0:19:38 GMT -5
Interesting read. Surprised the guy still calls himself "Kid" though.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 4:34:24 GMT -5
So you want him to lose money on the show. Ok, got it. Ok from what you're saying, that's very negative "Perhaps Billboard airplay data would be appropriate for them (since everyone uses Mediabase)" means most likely this show becomes a money loser the day it started. There is no way they make much now. Domestic distribution is almost nil which means little to no advertising dollars. Overseas while they may have ad deals or whatever there, it wouldn't bring in nearly what they would with a healthy market here. How long did AT40 survive international only? What chart were they using and paying royalties for? Now if the most recognizable worldwide brand for a countdown show didn't survive this way 20 years ago when more people listened to the radio, countdowns meant more than they do now, and there was more money in radio; then what does anyone think would happen now? |
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Post by BrettVW on Jul 2, 2016 7:02:49 GMT -5
However, what appalls me more is that you can hardly find Mr. Dees anywhere on terrestrial radio, at least in my area. Weekly Top 40 has been hard to find for years now. There are too many other modern sounding options with hosts from this generation. Younger listeners these days don't even know who Rick Dees is, and they definitely wouldn't care for his stale sounding CHR show. Rick's mistake, in my opinion, was not making more of an effort on his AC show. Casey did very well with the transition from CHR to AC in his later years. Rick's AC show just doesn't have any effort put into it. Then again, maybe Rick just doesn't have the lasting power that Casey did. And like has been discussed before, Billboard means nothing in today's syndicated radio countdown landscape. It would be nothing more than an unnecessary waste of money. It's just a fact. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 7:26:52 GMT -5
Does the AC show even exist anymore?
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Post by kani on Jul 2, 2016 8:02:49 GMT -5
However, what appalls me more is that you can hardly find Mr. Dees anywhere on terrestrial radio, at least in my area. Weekly Top 40 has been hard to find for years now. There are too many other modern sounding options with hosts from this generation. Younger listeners these days don't even know who Rick Dees is, and they definitely wouldn't care for his stale sounding CHR show. Rick's mistake, in my opinion, was not making more of an effort on his AC show. Casey did very well with the transition from CHR to AC in his later years. Rick's AC show just doesn't have any effort put into it. Then again, maybe Rick just doesn't have the lasting power that Casey did. And like has been discussed before, Billboard means nothing in today's syndicated radio countdown landscape. It would be nothing more than an unnecessary waste of money. It's just a fact. We have a station thread for this! at40fg.proboards.com/thread/4708/rick-dees-wt40-stations-80sI think HAC and CHR isn't complete, but this is just a list for radio station listings. As for retros 80s and 90s, this is a small list. If you all could look at it. |
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