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Post by BrettVW on Jun 28, 2016 16:57:23 GMT -5
I heard from one of Casey's staff during 2007 or 2008 that they were thinking about changing the show to AT30, however, no one would pay for the new jingles. Also, I heard that in the last year or so, producer was asking for more trivia related to new songs on the countdown, but after June 2008 it probably had no commercial sense to do anything because of Casey's health. I know in the last few years Premiere would put zero dollars toward Casey's shows. That's why you had the same theme music and jingles from 1998 still on the air in the late 2000s. Although I'm sure the show was not bringing in nearly the amount of money Ryan's shows were. I think that's why when the announcement was made that Premiere was ending the shows, budget cuts was a believable reason.
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Post by palmer7 on Jun 28, 2016 17:08:37 GMT -5
That's sad. After all, Premiere would be nowhere without Casey. He put their name on the map, and that was how they repaid him? Zero investment?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 17:19:43 GMT -5
Premiere who has Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Steve Harvey, Mario Lopez, Delilah, and Glenn Beck among others would be "nothing" without Casey Kasem? The distribution arm of a company that owns seemingly nearly every radio station in the country would be "nothing" without Casey Kasem? I'll leave you to decide if that's accurate.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 17:33:55 GMT -5
I heard from one of Casey's staff during 2007 or 2008 that they were thinking about changing the show to AT30, however, no one would pay for the new jingles. Also, I heard that in the last year or so, producer was asking for more trivia related to new songs on the countdown, but after June 2008 it probably had no commercial sense to do anything because of Casey's health. Honestly in the age of 2007/2008 it is hard for me to believe they would have increased to a top 30. The HAC chart moved only slightly faster than AC that moved like a turtle in concrete. I am listening to the weekly shows from 2006 now and Daniel Pewter just spent his 13th week at #1. This was far from unusual in this day.
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Post by palmer7 on Jun 28, 2016 17:49:22 GMT -5
Premiere who has Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Steve Harvey, Mario Lopez, Delilah, and Glenn Beck among others would be "nothing" without Casey Kasem? The distribution arm of a company that owns seemingly nearly every radio station in the country would be "nothing" without Casey Kasem? I'll leave you to decide if that's accurate. The question is, did they have all of those properties before Casey?
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Post by BrettVW on Jun 28, 2016 17:52:37 GMT -5
Yes. Casey was never a make or break for the network. The appeal of Casey and AT40 was never what it was in the late 70s and early 80s when he really did bring in cash for Watermark and later ABC. In fact I doubt Casey was ever even close to being AMFM or Premiere's biggest money maker. Those weekday political shows bring in a boatload of cash compared to a weekend syndicated countdown. Casey was a good property to have, but transforming AT40 into a piece of the Ryan Seacrest empire is likely the most money and best business having those shows has done for Premiere.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2016 18:47:10 GMT -5
Premiere who has Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Steve Harvey, Mario Lopez, Delilah, and Glenn Beck among others would be "nothing" without Casey Kasem? The distribution arm of a company that owns seemingly nearly every radio station in the country would be "nothing" without Casey Kasem? I'll leave you to decide if that's accurate. The question is, did they have all of those properties before Casey? Really it makes absolutely no difference if they did or did not. Had AM/FM never reached an agreement with him in 1998 he would stayed on WW1. This would have had no bearing whatsoever on Chancellor being purchased by Clearchannel in 1999. There is not one bit of radio conglomerate history or Premiere's largely death grip on the radio syndication market that would have been re-written by Casey staying at WW1. Perhaps a slightly different outcome on the CHR countdown scale, but that's all.
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Post by palmer7 on Jun 30, 2016 17:25:51 GMT -5
Still, it's sad to know that Casey's AC and Hot AC shows were given little support after Seacrest took over the mothership.
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Post by BrettVW on Jun 30, 2016 17:46:37 GMT -5
AT40 with Casey in the early 2000s wasn't really given a whole lot either. It was a brand that was known, comfortable, and make decent money for the company. As I said above, the best thing Premiere did was to hand AT40 over to Seacrest. It became a much bigger brand, brought in much more revenue, and began the Clear Channel Seacrest empire that would lead to the morning show and eventually the syndicated daily show. To Premiere, Casey's shows were what they were both before and after AT40 switched hosts. They were a nice brand to have, but not essential to the well being of the network. And since Casey was doing what he had always done, Premiere felt they didn't need to invest in things like jingle packages to keep things fresh. And honestly, they really didn't. Would we have all enjoyed a new jingle package in the mid 2000s? Of course. But would it have stopped the affiliate decline, Casey's aging voice, and the overall shift in the landscape of the formats? Not at all.
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Post by palmer7 on Jun 30, 2016 19:52:37 GMT -5
So it's just as well, especially considering Seacrest was given his own Hot AC version of AT40.
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Post by Jeffster on Aug 13, 2016 22:08:53 GMT -5
What is PPM?
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Post by BrettVW on Aug 14, 2016 8:45:18 GMT -5
The PPM is the Portable People Meter. It is the way stations measure ratings now, rather than Arbitron diaries. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_People_MeterIt is also the device that has proven folks don't want to hear unfamiliar music, long jock talk breaks, and shows like Delilah.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 12:35:19 GMT -5
The PPM is the Portable People Meter. It is the way stations measure ratings now, rather than Arbitron diaries. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_People_MeterIt is also the device that has proven folks don't want to hear unfamiliar music, long jock talk breaks, and shows like Delilah. Interesting. I've never had one of these PPM's and I've never liked Delilah!
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Post by Jeffster on Aug 14, 2016 14:50:40 GMT -5
I've never agreed with the majority of "folks" as super slow moving charts are part of the reason I stopped listening to current music,
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Post by palmer7 on Aug 14, 2016 23:07:44 GMT -5
I consider Kix to be to ACC what Ryan is to AT40, and I don't even listen to ACC. #KingsleyForever
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