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Post by bobbo428 on Feb 4, 2014 0:01:50 GMT -5
I never heard of this Wayne Newton song--first I thought it was a cover of the 1967 Box Tops hit, which made the top 40 again in 1969 (The Arbors) and 1970 (Joe Cocker). Maybe Wayne Newton's version came out in 1968, the only missing year in the chain. I then decided to look the song up on You Tube. It was a sincere, if a bit hokey, tune that sounded as though it could have been popular in 1980--but not 1968, 12 years away. It was indeed 12 years from 1980--12 years as in 1992! I guessed 1980 because it sounded a little like his last top-40 pop hit, "Years," from that year. By 1992, Newton would have had trouble making the AC chart, let alone pop. I would have guessed that it would have reached the 30s on the AC chart because softer AC stations would have aired it.
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Post by jlthorpe on Feb 4, 2014 17:03:26 GMT -5
But back to "The Letter", yeah, there's no way an album cut could get so much airplay that it makes #1 without hitting any other chart in Billboard or Radio and Records. If it was a commercial single release, I figured there was a possibility it could make Cashbox exclusively (perhaps they counted sales from a retail outlet that Billboard ignored, and it was a huge seller at that outlet). I can't conceive of what outlet is big enough that it can send a single to #1 without Billboard counting it. Anything of that size should presumably be counted by Billboard and its SoundScan technology that was in place by 1992. Unless something took place like Wal-Mart buying hundreds of thousands of copies and giving them away with purchases without Billboard knowing of or technologically tracking it, that sounds impossible for the 1990s. Yeah, I wasn't sure how likely that scenario was, but it was the only way I could figure a single could hit #1 on one chart and not another. Moot point, in any case, since it wasn't a single release. |
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Post by mstgator on Feb 4, 2014 23:40:00 GMT -5
And that last tune by Wayne Newton was apparently not even a commercial single (Whitburn shows it as an album cut in the new CB book), so based on CB restrictions (which mimicked the Hot 100 at that time), it shouldn't have charted even if it had the required airplay (which I can guarantee you it did not). I actually noticed a few other album cuts in the Cashbox book (such as "Do The Bartman", "Plush", and "Daughter"), so I assumed Cashbox allowed those to chart compared to Billboard.) Yeah, I see a few of those as well (also "Steel Bars" and "State Of The World", the latter of which was a vinyl release for jukeboxes). The problem is there are so many other airplay-only hits that did not chart in Cash Box, that you have to assume they were just picking and choosing which songs they wanted to chart during those last years of existence. |
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 5, 2014 19:14:36 GMT -5
This is not really all that crazy as much as it is history repeating itself. In late 1981, early 82, "Physical" logged its 10 weeks at #1 stopping "Waiting For a Girl Like You" in the process(10 weeks at #2) in Bbd. while Waiting spent 6 weeks at #1 stopping Physical which spent 2 weeks at #2 in R&R.
Fast forward 12 years and Ace of Base and Janet Jackson experienced the same fate. On AT40, "All That She Wants" spent 9 weeks at #1 stopping Janet's "Again" in the process (6 weeks at #2) while on CT40 the same 5 weeks that Janet was at #1 saw Ace of Base at #2 with those same songs.
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Post by freakyflybry on Feb 20, 2014 1:34:39 GMT -5
This week's 1975 AT40 had a bunch:
Jackson 5 - I Am Love: #39 R&R, #15 BB
ELO - Can't Get It Out Of My Head: #27 R&R, #9 BB
Tony Orlando & Dawn - Look In My Eyes Pretty Woman: #37 R&R, #11 BB
Carole King - Nightingale: #29 R&R, #9 BB
John Lennon - #9 Dream: #27 R&R, #9 BB
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Post by freakyflybry on Feb 26, 2014 23:35:32 GMT -5
One at least from this week's 1978 AT40:
Linda Ronstadt - Poor Poor Pitiful Me: #31 BB, #16 R&R
Linda has a few:
I Can't Let Go was also #31 BB, #16 R&R.
Get Closer: #29 BB, #15 R&R
Also:
Paul Davis Go Crazy: #18 R&R, #7 BB (furthermore, only spent 7 weeks on R&R!)
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Post by pointpark04 on Feb 27, 2014 9:47:01 GMT -5
Okay. I've gone through all five pages of this thread, and I didn't see anything on "I'm Too Sexy" by Right Said Fred.
It hit number one in BB. What did it do in R&R?
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Post by mkarns on Feb 27, 2014 9:55:26 GMT -5
Okay. I've gone through all five pages of this thread, and I didn't see anything on "I'm Too Sexy" by Right Said Fred. It hit number one in BB. What did it do in R&R? #4 in February 1992. |
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Post by mstgator on Feb 27, 2014 21:41:59 GMT -5
Okay. I've gone through all five pages of this thread, and I didn't see anything on "I'm Too Sexy" by Right Said Fred. It hit number one in BB. What did it do in R&R? #4 in February 1992. Which, incidentally, is actually higher than it peaked on the Hot 100 Airplay chart (#8). |
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Post by freakyflybry on Mar 6, 2014 1:03:30 GMT -5
This week's 70's show has this:
The Miracles - Love Machine (#1 BB; #11 R&R)
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Post by freakyflybry on Mar 8, 2014 11:06:36 GMT -5
A few from this week's 1983 show: (aside from the aforementioned Golden Earring and Eddie Rabbitt/Crystal Gayle songs which made top 10 BB, didn't chart R&R, and a Supertramp song mentioned earlier)
Dan Fogelberg - Make Love Stay: #29 BB, #15 R&R
Donna Summer - The Woman In Me: #33 BB, #21 R&R
Pat Benatar - Little Too Late: #20 BB, DNC R&R
Earth, Wind & Fire - Fall In Love With Me: #17 BB, DNC R&R
Kenny Loggins - Heart To Heart: #15 BB, #3 R&R
Joe Jackson - Breaking Us In Two: #18 BB, #8 R&R
Billy Joel - Allentown: #17 BB, #3 R&R
Christopher Cross - All Right: #12 BB, #3 R&R
Journey - Separate Ways (Worlds Apart): #8 BB, #1 R&R
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Post by freakyflybry on Jul 25, 2014 13:34:48 GMT -5
Some from this week's shows:
Wang Chung - Hypnotize Me: #29 R&R, #36 BB
Al Jarreau - Moonlighting: #38 R&R, #23 BB
Steve Martin - King Tut: DNC R&R, #17 BB
Also, Meat Loaf's "Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad", which fell off this week's AT40 from 1978, was still riding high on R&R!
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Post by freakyflybry on Aug 2, 2014 3:49:17 GMT -5
A few from this week's 1979 show:
Gerry Rafferty - Days Gone Down: #7 R&R, #17 BB
Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down To Georgia: #9 R&R, #3 BB
Paul McCartney & Wings - Getting Closer: #10 R&R, #20 BB
Elton John - Mama Can't Buy You Love: #4 R&R, #9 BB
McFadden & Whitehead - Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now: #29 R&R, #13 BB
David Naughton - Makin' It: #25 R&R, #5 BB
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Post by mkarns on Aug 2, 2014 11:54:21 GMT -5
The 7/28/79 countdown included no fewer than six songs that hit #1 in Radio & Records but not Billboard: "Chuck E's In Love", "She Believes In Me", "Shine a Little Love", "Gold", "The Main Event/Fight", and "After the Love Has Gone", and would have had a seventh if "The Logical Song" hadn't fallen off that week. (In addition, the optional extra "Lonesome Loser" fits this pattern as well.)
By contrast, the #1 song on AT40, "Bad Girls", was in the middle of a five week run at #1 in BB, but didn't even have one week on top in R&R.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 18, 2015 10:53:17 GMT -5
Here's another one and a great example of why using R&R would have been a joke. Player's "This Time I'm in it for Love" which made the top 10 in Billboard did not chart on R&R. How that happens when their previous hit, "Baby Come Back" reached #1 in R&R is beyond my comprehension. How was their not enough momentum generated at radio to get the followup single on the R&R chart? BTW, BCK is the only chart single on R&R for Player who had a third top 40 hit in Billboard too.
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