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Post by mkarns on Jul 15, 2011 10:19:47 GMT -5
Yeah, how about songs by Idol winners that debut and peak at #1 and then fall off! The rap is bad, but think how AT40 would sound if they included all that! I can imagine all too well. Seacrest: "And debuting all the way up at #16 this week, that's the 115th top 40 hit for the cast of Glee. Now we've got Ryan Murphy on the line. So, how does it feel to be the man behind the show that has, in just two years, produced more hits than anyone in history? More than Elvis, the Beatles, anybody!" Even if AT40 hadn't abandoned the Hot 100 in 1991, surely they would have done so sooner or later. Hearing a countdown show on the radio rhapsodizing about a record-breaking number of hits from one act when none of them have been heard on that radio to any great degree would be ridiculous. For example, not a single one of that record number of "Glee" chart singles has actually made AT40, although "Loser Like Me" did recently come pretty close, getting into the 40s on Mediabase. |
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jul 15, 2011 10:23:57 GMT -5
ok Tarobe, first define Heavy Metal. The kind like Iron Butterfly & Blue Cheer? The kind like Led Zeppelin? The kind like 80's hair bands? The kind like Metallica? The roaring growling kind?
There's more I am sure I'm forgetting. You'd probably change your tune if you heard my friends show Metal Mountain. Its actually deeper than you might think. He doesn't play ANY metal with the growling.
I think rap (like most other types of music) will die down and never go away. Rock has been dying for a while and diminished, but it didn't go away, same with disco/dance, jazz, etc....
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Post by reachinforthestars on Jul 15, 2011 10:28:20 GMT -5
And tagging a genre with 32-I repeat-32 years of commercial recordings and still-going mass popularity as a novelty can only be one of two things: a) ignorance; b) intellectual dishonesty. If not, it's just seriously unhinged; I'm sorry, but it just is. What does longevity have to do with the word "novelty"? Comedy recordings have been around longer than 32 years, so because of that, they can't be called "novelty"  Your logic is ignorant, not the people you are calling ignorant. I'm sorry, but it just is.  |
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jul 15, 2011 10:33:07 GMT -5
Hey, I like the show Glee, but their covers of old songs taking over the charts like a bug in a horror movie is just ludicrous!
Maybe their originals would be ok, but all those covers? no. Especially not for ONE WEEK!
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jul 15, 2011 10:36:32 GMT -5
***Your logic is ignorant, not the people you are calling ignorant. I'm sorry, but it just is. ***
<standing ovation>
God bless you!
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Post by jaxxalude on Jul 15, 2011 10:37:52 GMT -5
And tagging a genre with 32-I repeat-32 years of commercial recordings and still-going mass popularity as a novelty can only be one of two things: a) ignorance; b) intellectual dishonesty. If not, it's just seriously unhinged; I'm sorry, but it just is. What does longevity have to do with the word "novelty"? Everything, Einstein. And then some. Have you ever heard of "comedy records" as a movement, so to say? Or something that had a cultural impact the way hip-hop (still) does, or rock music, jazz and even disco (yes, disco!) had back in the day? Thought so. So whose logic here is ignorant?  |
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Post by jaxxalude on Jul 15, 2011 10:39:05 GMT -5
***Your logic is ignorant, not the people you are calling ignorant. I'm sorry, but it just is. *** <standing ovation> God bless you! Don't invoke an abstract entity in vain, dude! |
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Post by jaxxalude on Jul 15, 2011 10:40:25 GMT -5
And really, I think I better just get out of this discussion. Too many narrow-minded, bitter and yes, ignorant people here.
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Post by atfanmpls on Jul 15, 2011 10:44:06 GMT -5
I read through all of these posts, real interesting.
When I think back, I thought BBD was cool and hated Boyz II Men's music. I think "oversinging" was/is the end of it all... Mariah Carey, BTM, later Christina A., running scales all over a song is so annoying.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jul 15, 2011 10:45:13 GMT -5
The only one I've heard being narrow minded or ignorant is Blackbowl. We've had intelligent reasons to back up our feelings. Something he has yet to do that I've seen.
That or the idiotic comment about Novelty Songs sent my mind into reverse.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jul 15, 2011 10:46:05 GMT -5
See, I find Boyz II Men to be soulful. Updated Motown with, yeah, a little oversinging. But its alot nicer than some R&B of the last 10-15 years.
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Post by jaxxalude on Jul 15, 2011 10:49:52 GMT -5
The only one I've heard being narrow minded or ignorant is Blackbowl. We've had intelligent reasons to back up our feelings. Something he has yet to do that I've seen. That or the idiotic comment about Novelty Songs sent my mind into reverse. Actually, he's the one who's been backing up his statements with actual arguments and, most importantly, facts. The, er, fact that they don't suit a lot of people's (including yours) preset ideology is not his (or mine, by the way) problem. I sometimes get the feeling that discussing hip-hop around these parts is like trying to reason with teabaggers. And the thing is, tarobe has already made a good job of satirizing the average mindset of a lot of people in this thread. And he himself admitted that he doesn't like rap. So take this as you wish. |
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jul 15, 2011 10:56:36 GMT -5
Not using real instruments and ripping off old songs is not a good actual argument? um ok.
And since the majority of us are older and not into rap, why try to discuss it at all around here? Its like going to The Boston Red Sox message board and bringing up The NY Yankees.
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Post by reachinforthestars on Jul 15, 2011 11:10:13 GMT -5
What does longevity have to do with the word "novelty"? Everything, Einstein. And then some. Have you ever heard of "comedy records" as a movement, so to say? Or something that had a cultural impact the way hip-hop (still) does, or rock music, jazz and even disco (yes, disco!) had back in the day? Thought so. So whose logic here is ignorant? The cultural demise rap has introduced into society still has no bearing on why it is still considered a novelty in musical terms. I'm sorry, but it just is. |
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Post by jaxxalude on Jul 15, 2011 11:15:18 GMT -5
Not using real instruments and ripping off old songs is not a good actual argument? um ok. Look, we've been here before about this. Don't go by me. Go to the web and find out about all the scholars who make quite great defenses about sampling and legitimize it as an instrument, yes. But then, you just confirmed to me that trying to discuss hip-hop around here is like trying to reason with teabaggers. I mean, that Yankees and the Red Sox thing? I get it. But you are aware that that's the model behavior of a fanatic, aren't you? Not a very healthy one, in my view, but hey, to each its own. |
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Your logic is ignorant, not the people you are calling ignorant. I'm sorry, but it just is. 
