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Post by jimjterrell4210 on Oct 6, 2020 22:57:43 GMT -5
As many singles as there are out there, not everyone is going to make the number-one spot on a record chart, so a single has to peak somewhere, even if it misses out on the Top-10, or the Top-20, or even miss out on AT40 altogether. For that reason, I am starting this thread that will highlight the singles that were the final ones at their peak position on any given Hot 100 panel before the number-one single.
First example: "Ball of Confusion (That's What the World is Today)", by The Temptations, peaked at number 3 on the Hot 100 on the weeks of June 27, July 4, and July 11, 1970. During the first of those two weeks, "The Love You Save"/"I Found That Girl", by The Jackson 5, was the number-one single, and on the third of those weeks, "Mama Told Me (Not to Come)", by Three Dog Night, took the number-one spot.
EDIT: As of 4/2/2022, the focus of this thread will officially shift to the highest-peaking singles on a weekly Hot 100 chart before the #1 single that did NOT reach the #2 spot. The highest peak-position single outside the number-one on a chart means the final peak-position single before the number-one on a countdown show.
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Post by mga707 on Oct 6, 2020 23:38:04 GMT -5
So are you basically asking 'what was the highest record at it's peak position, except for the #1 song?' on any given AT40?
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Post by jimjterrell4210 on Oct 7, 2020 1:20:48 GMT -5
So are you basically asking 'what was the highest record at it's peak position, except for the #1 song?' on any given AT40? This thread is based on all this discussion I've been seeing about songs stalling at the number-two position of the pop chart without ever reaching its number-one spot. And if you've been seeing my Big 40 Countdown observations on the Sirius-XM 80s on 8's Facebook page, I've been compiling all of the songs at their peaks on a particular week's countdown during the past couple of years (I never count number ones, though). This thread also asks: But what about the last/highest peak positions before/excluding the #1 single that did not reach the runner-up spot? Also, another example: The first song to peak at #2 on the AT40 program's run, "Lookin' Out My Back Door"/"Long As I Can See the Light", by Creedence Clearwater Revival, was also the last of that group's five #2 singles on the Hot 100. It reached that position on October 3, 1970, while the Diana Ross cover of "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" held the number-one spot. |
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Post by Hervard on Oct 7, 2020 9:12:46 GMT -5
 I'm completely lost. |
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Post by 80sat40fan on Oct 7, 2020 9:49:21 GMT -5
Somewhere, there's a thread which has the songs which spent two or more weeks at #2 and had different songs at #1 during its peak (for example, "Live & Let Die" spent 3 weeks at #2 while "The Morning After", "Touch Me In The Morning" and "Brother Louie" being the #1 songs during that time). Are you asking about songs that peaked at other positions? For example, "True" by Spandau Ballet spent four weeks at #4 with "Total Eclipse Of The Heart" being #1 for three weeks, and "Islands In The Stream" being #1 the last week. Is this what you mean?
This could be a really fun thread for 1982 as songs spent so many weeks at their peak position. I'm just wondering how low do we go with a song's peak.
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Post by jimjterrell4210 on Oct 7, 2020 10:46:35 GMT -5
How about some 1980s examples of this distinction? "Bette Davis Eyes" and "Physical" each spent 10 weeks at the top of the Hot 100 (well, the former, whose nine weeks at the top were non-consecutive, might have if it hadn't been displaced by that Stars on 45 Medley on the week of June 20). What were the highest singles at their peaks before them? - "Just the Two of Us", by Grover Washington Jr. (#2) - Highest peaker before "Morning Train (Nine to Five)", by Sheena Easton (May 2 and 9, 1981) and "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (May 16, 1981)
- "Being with You", by Smokey Robinson (#2) - Highest peaker before "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (May 23 and 30, and June 6, 1981)
- "Sukiyaki", by A Taste of Honey (#3) - Highest peaker before "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (June 13 and 27, 1981) and "Medley..." by Stars on 45 (June 20, 1981)
- "All Those Years Ago", by George Harrison (#2) - Highest peaker before "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (July 4-18, 1981)
And don't get me or anyone else here started on "Waiting for a Girl Like You", by Foreigner, stalling at the #2 spot for 10 agonizing weeks (the first nine of which had "Physical", by Olivia Newton-John, at the top, and the tenth had "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)", by Daryl Hall and John Oates, leapfrogging itself over the Foreigner song to reach the top). What was the highest peaker during "Physical"'s first week at the top? "Here I Am", by Air Supply (at #5, which it would remain at for another two weeks, during "Waiting for a Girl Like You"'s peak). |
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Post by mga707 on Oct 7, 2020 11:54:09 GMT -5
How about some 1980s examples of this distinction? "Bette Davis Eyes" and "Physical" each spent 10 weeks at the top of the Hot 100 (well, the former, whose nine weeks at the top were non-consecutive, might have if it hadn't been displaced by that Stars on 45 Medley on the week of June 20). What were the highest singles at their peaks before them? - "Just the Two of Us", by Grover Washington Jr. (#2) - Highest peaker before "Morning Train (Nine to Five)", by Sheena Easton (May 2 and 9, 1981) and "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (May 16, 1981)
- "Being with You", by Smokey Robinson (#2) - Highest peaker before "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (May 23 and 30, and June 6, 1981)
- "Sukiyaki", by A Taste of Honey (#3) - Highest peaker before "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (June 13 and 27, 1981) and "Medley..." by Stars on 45 (June 20, 1981)
- "All Those Years Ago", by George Harrison (#2) - Highest peaker before "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (July 4-18, 1981)
And don't get me or anyone else here started on "Waiting for a Girl Like You", by Foreigner, stalling at the #2 spot for 10 agonizing weeks (the first nine of which had "Physical", by Olivia Newton-John, at the top, and the tenth had "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)", by Daryl Hall and John Oates, leapfrogging itself over the Foreigner song to reach the top). What was the highest peaker during "Physical"'s first week at the top? "Here I Am", by Air Supply (at #5, which it would remain at for another two weeks, during "Waiting for a Girl Like You"'s peak). That same year, 1981, the seemingly endless 9-week run of the dreary "Endless Love" at #1 kept "Theme From 'The Greatest American Hero'", "Slow Hand", and "Queen Of Hearts" from getting any higher than #2. |
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Post by jlthorpe on Oct 7, 2020 14:44:54 GMT -5
Somewhere, there's a thread which has the songs which spent two or more weeks at #2 and had different songs at #1 during its peak (for example, "Live & Let Die" spent 3 weeks at #2 while "The Morning After", "Touch Me In The Morning" and "Brother Louie" being the #1 songs during that time). Are you asking about songs that peaked at other positions? For example, "True" by Spandau Ballet spent four weeks at #4 with "Total Eclipse Of The Heart" being #1 for three weeks, and "Islands In The Stream" being #1 the last week. Is this what you mean? This could be a really fun thread for 1982 as songs spent so many weeks at their peak position. I'm just wondering how low do we go with a song's peak. There's also at least one thread (one of which was mine, posted below) which listed the songs that kept #2 hits out of the #1 spot. at40fg.proboards.com/thread/2253/famous-2-hits-kept-hitting |
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Post by Mike on Oct 7, 2020 17:51:18 GMT -5
I'm completely lost. If Jim were to refer to THIS CHART from February 17, 1990...the song he'd be looking for would be #2, "Two to Make it Right". If he pulled up THIS CHART from December 26, 1987...he'd be looking for #6, "Don't You Want Me". If he pulled up THIS CHART from August 2, 1986...he'd be looking for #10, "Opportunities (Let's Make Lots of Money)"!  Make sense now? |
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Post by seminolefan on Oct 7, 2020 18:58:27 GMT -5
Regarding this week's upcoming shows...
10/11/1980: "Drivin' My Life Away" - Eddie Rabbitt (#5)
10/13/1984: "Drive" - The Cars (#3)
10/07/1978: "Don't Look Back" - Boston (#4)
10/07/1972: "Back Stabbers" - The O'Jays (#3)
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Post by jimjterrell4210 on Oct 8, 2020 9:10:54 GMT -5
Other examples of highest peak positions on charts from elsewhere in the 1970s:
Before "Silly Love Songs", by Wings, there were "Fooled Around and Fell in Love", by Elvin Bishop (#3, on the May 22, 1976 chart); "Get Up and Boogie (That's Right), by Silver Convention (#2, on the June 12-26, 1976 charts); and "Misty Blue", by Dorothy Moore (#3, on the July 3, 1976 U.S. Bicentennial chart).
Before "The Way We Were", by Barbra Streisand, there was "Until You Come Back to Me (That's What I'm Gonna Do)", by Aretha Franklin (#3, February 23, 1974).
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Oct 8, 2020 11:07:44 GMT -5
What chart had the lowest highest peak position before #1? That 8/2/1986 chart has got to be right up there, with #10 being the returned value. With the slow-moving charts these days, there's got to be much more recent examples.
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Post by Mike on Oct 8, 2020 12:06:38 GMT -5
What chart had the lowest highest peak position before #1? That 8/2/1986 chart has got to be right up there, with #10 being the returned value. With the slow-moving charts these days, there's got to be much more recent examples. I'd say, any chart with as few as just TWO songs peaking within the countdown that week has to be a contender. One of the two will obviously be #1 - just have to find the other. A great example of this: 2/7/1987. The only other song peaking in that week's countdown is "Jimmy Lee" at #28! This, incidentally, provides its own statistic - lowest amount of peaking songs in the countdown. I've yet to find one where #1 is the only peaker. |
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Post by 80sat40fan on Oct 11, 2020 7:41:25 GMT -5
I'd say, any chart with as few as just TWO songs peaking within the countdown that week has to be a contender. One of the two will obviously be #1 - just have to find the other. A great example of this: 2/7/1987. The only other song peaking in that week's countdown is "Jimmy Lee" at #28! This, incidentally, provides its own statistic - lowest amount of peaking songs in the countdown. I've yet to find one where #1 is the only peaker. I found a Top 40 chart where the #1 song is THE only song at its peak position... and it wasn't an official countdown as Casey was counting down the Hot 100 of 1974 for the week ending 12/28/74. "Angie Baby" by Helen Reddy moved into the #1 position on the 12/28/74 Hot 100. Every other song in the Top 40 that week was on its way up to its peak, or on its way down from its peak (although "Dancin' Fool" by The Guess Who stalled at #30 but would move up to its peak of #28 the next week). This means that we located a chart with only the #1 song at its peak position. What do I win for finding this?  |
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Post by jimjterrell4210 on Oct 11, 2020 22:25:22 GMT -5
How about some 1980s examples of this distinction? "Bette Davis Eyes" and "Physical" each spent 10 weeks at the top of the Hot 100 (well, the former, whose nine weeks at the top were non-consecutive, might have if it hadn't been displaced by that Stars on 45 Medley on the week of June 20). What were the highest singles at their peaks before them? - "Just the Two of Us", by Grover Washington Jr. (#2) - Highest peaker before "Morning Train (Nine to Five)", by Sheena Easton (May 2 and 9, 1981) and "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (May 16, 1981)
- "Being with You", by Smokey Robinson (#2) - Highest peaker before "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (May 23 and 30, and June 6, 1981)
- "Sukiyaki", by A Taste of Honey (#3) - Highest peaker before "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (June 13 and 27, 1981) and "Medley..." by Stars on 45 (June 20, 1981)
- "All Those Years Ago", by George Harrison (#2) - Highest peaker before "Bette Davis Eyes", by Kim Carnes (July 4-18, 1981)
And don't get me or anyone else here started on "Waiting for a Girl Like You", by Foreigner, stalling at the #2 spot for 10 agonizing weeks (the first nine of which had "Physical", by Olivia Newton-John, at the top, and the tenth had "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)", by Daryl Hall and John Oates, leapfrogging itself over the Foreigner song to reach the top). What was the highest peaker during "Physical"'s first week at the top? "Here I Am", by Air Supply (at #5, which it would remain at for another two weeks, during "Waiting for a Girl Like You"'s peak). That same year, 1981, the seemingly endless 9-week run of the dreary "Endless Love" at #1 kept "Theme From 'The Greatest American Hero'", "Slow Hand", and "Queen Of Hearts" from getting any higher than #2. It should be noted that "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around", by Stevie Nicks and Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, and "Hold Me", by Fleetwood Mac, spent an awfully long time at their respective peak positions (at #3 for six weeks, and at #4 for seven weeks). Only during their last weeks at those positions would they be the highest peak position before the top single ("Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" before "Endless Love", by Lionel Richie and Diana Ross, on October 10, 1981, and "Hold Me" before "Abracadabra", by The Steve Miller Band, on September 4, 1982). All of their other weeks at those positions had singles peaking at #2. |
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I'm completely lost.
