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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jul 14, 2016 13:23:49 GMT -5
Many of you know I was never a fan of David Perry when he sat in for Casey.
Well, last week I listened to David's first fill-in stint again (7/10/93) and was pleasantly surprised. While I still wouldn't put him in the same league as Charlie Van Dyke or Mark Elliot, he wasn't as bad as I recall. Had some good energy and occasionally riffed slightly on the script (ex. "I'm David Perry for Casey Kasem and you know how it works...the smaller the numbers, the bigger the hits...").
But I now also vaguely recall reading somewhere (perhaps Rob's book) that David was later told to "just read the script." So perhaps that's what he started doing which is why my memories are negative.
I've been listening to the 1993 CT40 shows on their anniversary weeks, so I'll continue to include the David Perry shows to see how he evolves (devolves?) as guest host. Believe his next show was the first weekend in August.
Thoughts?
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Post by dukelightning on Jul 14, 2016 13:36:54 GMT -5
He is not in the league of Charlie or Mark. There were guest hosts, mostly one time hosts, who I would rank below him. But off all the many time guest hosts, I have to rank him at the bottom of the list. But I suppose the CT40 staff and Westwood One can be blamed in part for that based on what you just wrote about him having to follow the script. So David has to be given a bit of a pass as a result. After all, those same restrictions were put on Casey himself and it took away from the shows too. He was a much better listen in the first few years of CT40 before that ultimatum took effect. Which I was reminded of earlier today with the 7/14/90 show btw.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 13:54:30 GMT -5
I hated him for years. Then listened to one the first time a few years ago. Compared to celebrities who haven't a clue he is great. I posted my thoughts back then here. Wow didn't realize it had been 4 1/2 years since I posted it though. at40fg.proboards.com/thread/2205/david-perry |
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Post by BrettVW on Jul 14, 2016 14:10:12 GMT -5
I think what I have discovered over the many years of listening is that the Westwood One era itself is very bland and robotic. So it only makes sense that the David Perry shows are somewhat this way, because I feel even the regular Casey shows are to a degree. As much as AT40 with Ryan has improved this year, the guest hosted weeks are still not good.
I don't mind any of the David Perry shows, and although he was not popular to some on here, I really like Ed McMann as guest host too, and the energy/delivery is similar.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jul 14, 2016 18:32:37 GMT -5
I don't mind David Perry either - I have CH20 from 10/25/1997 with him as guest host. My favorite guest host overall is Charlie Van Dyke, with Mark Elliott a close second.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 19:29:02 GMT -5
I think what I have discovered over the many years of listening is that the Westwood One era itself is very bland and robotic. So it only makes sense that the David Perry shows are somewhat this way, because I feel even the regular Casey shows are to a degree. As much as AT40 with Ryan has improved this year, the guest hosted weeks are still not good. I don't mind any of the David Perry shows, and although he was not popular to some on here, I really like Ed McMann as guest host too, and the energy/delivery is similar. As much as I've grown to appreciate David Perry, Ed McMann was a breathe of much needed guest host fresh air when he started. Ed was far more energetic and just seemed much better suited for it at least on the CHR format. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 19:30:10 GMT -5
For full disclosure I didn't like Mark Elliott as a guest host until David Perry showed up. But I think that's because of how often there was a guest hosted show in the CT40 days.
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jul 15, 2016 13:26:43 GMT -5
I think what I have discovered over the many years of listening is that the Westwood One era itself is very bland and robotic. So it only makes sense that the David Perry shows are somewhat this way, because I feel even the regular Casey shows are to a degree. As much as AT40 with Ryan has improved this year, the guest hosted weeks are still not good. I don't mind any of the David Perry shows, and although he was not popular to some on here, I really like Ed McMann as guest host too, and the energy/delivery is similar. Agreed, though this was mostly due to a production guy who I felt was just plain lazy in putting the shows together. He used the same dang jingles to start and end most every segment. You could always tell when he was on vacation because you'd hear jingles you didn't usually hear on the show and the show would sound GREAT from a production value standpoint. I never understood why this guy was allowed to take the lazy-man approach. No other era of AT40/CT40 suffered from such consistently shoddy production. The true shame of it all is that Casey sounded among his best in my opinion during those early CT40 shows. Back to the topic at hand, I think there had to be more to it in terms of Perry not sounding good (at least at the time). Mark Elliot (and indeed Casey himself) were stuck in that same "lazy production" environment and still sounded excellent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2016 13:40:31 GMT -5
Make a list of every non celebrity/musician guest host you've ever heard on the show. For me that covers most all of them except one shot hosts from the 70s basically. I didn't rank them in order but I can tell you just based on rememberance Perry rates 1 spot above dead last. That spot belongs to Don Bowman. Now in saying that, everyone from Perry up did ok. They got through the show, were competent in what they did, but he certainly wasn't great. Perry's voice mixed with the robotic formula made it feel very bland. Also remember that outside of his first year guest hosting, he was the guest host one can most associate with the era of a very slow moving chart. So between not a lot of movement, or music variety, and his delivery it could be a boring show.
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Post by robert on Jul 28, 2016 15:08:45 GMT -5
Make a list of every non celebrity/musician guest host you've ever heard on the show. For me that covers most all of them except one shot hosts from the 70s basically. I didn't rank them in order but I can tell you just based on rememberance Perry rates 1 spot above dead last. That spot belongs to Don Bowman. Now in saying that, everyone from Perry up did ok. They got through the show, were competent in what they did, but he certainly wasn't great. Perry's voice mixed with the robotic formula made it feel very bland. Also remember that outside of his first year guest hosting, he was the guest host one can most associate with the era of a very slow moving chart. So between not a lot of movement, or music variety, and his delivery it could be a boring show. I think this "jingle thing" became more evident during 1993-94, especially after they switched to CD quality. When you listen to late 1990 and 1991 shows you can notice that you could almost predict a type of the song according to the intro jingles sometimes even outro, sliding guitar rocky one was almost always used when the song was a rocker, whereas dance-sounding jingle before pure dance-floor hits |
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Post by BrettVW on Jul 29, 2016 6:24:34 GMT -5
Scott,
I always admit the early 90s aren't a musical period I have any ties or familiarity with and I rarely, if ever, listen to CT40 or AT40 from 90-93ish. I was always under the impression that same darn jingle got played in every segment because the rest got pulled when they had to stop calling the show "CT40" - I am curious now if you know the specific dates of any shows that feature the better variety of jingles just so I can take a listen!
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jul 29, 2016 14:02:22 GMT -5
Scott, I always admit the early 90s aren't a musical period I have any ties or familiarity with and I rarely, if ever, listen to CT40 or AT40 from 90-93ish. I was always under the impression that same darn jingle got played in every segment because the rest got pulled when they had to stop calling the show "CT40" - I am curious now if you know the specific dates of any shows that feature the better variety of jingles just so I can take a listen! Listen to the back portion (from around #15 on) of the 7/31/93 show. I actually got the opportunity to sit in on the recording and production of this show and the "lazy" engineer had to leave mid-way through the show and was replaced by the guy who liked to vary it up jingle-wise. This show to me is therefore the perfect comparison of a single-show representation of what the show had become from a production standpoint and what it could have been. Funny story from the production of that show... That "rolling drum beat" jingle you hear starting practically every segment of CT40 in that era was on a cart labeled "CT40 Jingle - BOUNCY." The fill-in engineer grabbed a different one to start a segment as he was putting together that show and said to me "Here's one you probably haven't heard today." And while I'd have to review some of those very early 1989 shows to be sure, I don't believe there were ever more than 2-3 jingles that included "C-T-40" in them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2016 16:13:54 GMT -5
Scott, I always admit the early 90s aren't a musical period I have any ties or familiarity with and I rarely, if ever, listen to CT40 or AT40 from 90-93ish. I was always under the impression that same darn jingle got played in every segment because the rest got pulled when they had to stop calling the show "CT40" - I am curious now if you know the specific dates of any shows that feature the better variety of jingles just so I can take a listen! There were like 4 left I think. The drum roll one that was used most all the time, the one with 2 beats, the one with a guitar, and then one with that Fine Young Cannibals type beat behind it. Yeah they lost a few when they lost that lawsuit. Why they never had anyone do anymore to replace those I don't know. |
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jul 29, 2016 19:59:05 GMT -5
Paul it's not that they didn't have any others. They did. They just had lazy engineer who never used them. Check out that 7/31/93 show if you have it. I believe 7/3/93 has a lot of the other jingles too.
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Post by statenislandfan on Jul 31, 2016 9:06:15 GMT -5
Scott, wasn't there a lawsuit filed by ABC over some of the CT 40 jingles on WWI? I remember about a problem AT40 had with CT40's delivery of Casey saying "CT40". BTW, I've mentioned this before that Mark Elliot during the early '80's hosted a special called "The Number 1 Radio Show", he played every number 1 song from Jan 1964 to 1982. Then hosted "The Weekly Top 30",in which 99x dropped AT40 in July 1980 and picked up his show. I think because of his sub hosting AT40 for Casey, D-S recognized him and gave him his own show.
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