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Post by briguy52748 on Apr 24, 2015 9:12:51 GMT -5
I'm not seeing the humor there. But I guess others do/did. I think bestmusicexpert put it best: I've never heard a Bowman countdown, but his comedy background probably did lead him to include a lot of humour that may have seemed topical or funny at the time, but would seem dated if not offensive to many today. I'm sure there are a few of Bowman's fans still out there that might think he was a laugh a minute. But jokes like shooting a horse in the summertime to avoid having to hear him complain about the bitterly cold winter, or encouraging listeners to call their station to win a jar containing Moe Bandy's gallbladder, or hoping that there is a real fire so that Rex Allen Jr. could play fire chief (jokes that came from actual programs; the latter, from Bowman's last show, was uttered after a story about Allen being named an honorary fire chief of a small-town firefighter festival) ... those would never pass today and get plenty of negative TMZ.com press today. And Bowman's lucky about the Moe Bandy "joke": If I were Bandy, I'd be demanding a sincere, on-air apology! The Allen comment could pass, but the horse joke was just mean. It did lead to a listener one time commenting that he liked ACC but thought that Bowman's humor was overboard; Bowman remarked that said letter was written in crayon but then said he'd cool it. Brian
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Post by rayshae3 on Apr 24, 2015 12:14:01 GMT -5
I'm amazed this is happening with Bob on the air doing a competing show. It looks when Bob Kingsley’s first got hired as producer of ACC in late spring 1974, he was also working for competing syndicators at the same time: Watermark and Drake-Chenault. (Billboard 15-June-1974 thru GoogleBooks, Page 25, Col. 4, “Vox Jox” section) I distinctly remember his 60-min. Mon-Fri country show in the 70s long before taking over as the host of ACC (like other dailies Wolfman Jack and Charlie Tuna syndication/network shows at the time)
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Post by rayshae3 on Apr 24, 2015 12:46:13 GMT -5
I'm not seeing the humor there. But I guess others do/did. I think bestmusicexpert put it best: I've never heard a Bowman countdown, but his comedy background probably did lead him to include a lot of humour that may have seemed topical or funny at the time, but would seem dated if not offensive to many today. I'm sure there are a few of Bowman's fans still out there that might think he was a laugh a minute. But jokes like shooting a horse in the summertime to avoid having to hear him complain about the bitterly cold winter, or encouraging listeners to call their station to win a jar containing Moe Bandy's gallbladder, or hoping that there is a real fire so that Rex Allen Jr. could play fire chief (jokes that came from actual programs; the latter, from Bowman's last show, was uttered after a story about Allen being named an honorary fire chief of a small-town firefighter festival) ... those would never pass today and get plenty of negative TMZ.com press today. And Bowman's lucky about the Moe Bandy "joke": If I were Bandy, I'd be demanding a sincere, on-air apology! The Allen comment could pass, but the horse joke was just mean. It did lead to a listener one time commenting that he liked ACC but thought that Bowman's humor was overboard; Bowman remarked that said letter was written in crayon but then said he'd cool it. Brian I never had a chance to hear Bowman when he guest-hosted AT40 on 6/16/73. How did he handle it? Any off-the-wall comments? Or did he stick to the formula? On the other hand, it looks like the earlier producers of ACC, knew exacty about Don Bowman’s personality and presentation (having been a country/novelty-joker in the preceding 10 years). See this full-page ad in Billboard about the time the show got launched first: (Issue October 20, 1973, Page 41) books.google.ca/books?id=UwgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA41&dq=%22american+country+countdown%22+%22don+bowman%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YXo6VbzNDK2CsQTFwIHIBg&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=%22american%20country%20countdown%22%20%22don%20bowman%22&f=trueInterestingly years later, in a story Billboard had on P. 50 of July 11, 1981 issue (titled: “Syndication Markets Growing” in the magazine’s country section) Neil Haislop, researcher for ACC, surmises that Bob Kingsley’s “non-regional style may have contributed to wider acceptance “ of the show (carried then on 300 stations, up from 120 just about three years earlier when it was a Don Bowman “vehicle.”)
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Post by dukelightning on Apr 24, 2015 13:04:55 GMT -5
That last part about the regional aspect of ACC has some traction. In hearing the few shows from those early years when Don was doing the show, I could not help but notice that pretty much all the stations that he mentioned were from the west and midwest. None from the south which surprised me seeing as how that's where the genre is the most associated with. That changed by the 80s in a big way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 19:46:46 GMT -5
That last part about the regional aspect of ACC has some traction. In hearing the few shows from those early years when Don was doing the show, I could not help but notice that pretty much all the stations that he mentioned were from the west and midwest. None from the south which surprised me seeing as how that's where the genre is the most associated with. That changed by the 80s in a big way. Remember something though. This was in an age where the idea of a national radio countdown show was still a fairly new one. Pop radio had finally come to accept AT40 but that doesn't mean other genres were immediately going to embrace it there. Do I think Bob Kingsley as host and a more mainstream type show had a lot to do with it? Yes I do. But so did time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 19:48:24 GMT -5
I think bestmusicexpert put it best: I'm sure there are a few of Bowman's fans still out there that might think he was a laugh a minute. But jokes like shooting a horse in the summertime to avoid having to hear him complain about the bitterly cold winter, or encouraging listeners to call their station to win a jar containing Moe Bandy's gallbladder, or hoping that there is a real fire so that Rex Allen Jr. could play fire chief (jokes that came from actual programs; the latter, from Bowman's last show, was uttered after a story about Allen being named an honorary fire chief of a small-town firefighter festival) ... those would never pass today and get plenty of negative TMZ.com press today. And Bowman's lucky about the Moe Bandy "joke": If I were Bandy, I'd be demanding a sincere, on-air apology! The Allen comment could pass, but the horse joke was just mean. It did lead to a listener one time commenting that he liked ACC but thought that Bowman's humor was overboard; Bowman remarked that said letter was written in crayon but then said he'd cool it. Brian I never had a chance to hear Bowman when he guest-hosted AT40 on 6/16/73. How did he handle it? Any off-the-wall comments? Or did he stick to the formula? On the other hand, it looks like the earlier producers of ACC, knew exacty about Don Bowman’s personality and presentation (having been a country/novelty-joker in the preceding 10 years). See this full-page ad in Billboard about the time the show got launched first: (Issue October 20, 1973, Page 41) books.google.ca/books?id=UwgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA41&dq=%22american+country+countdown%22+%22don+bowman%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YXo6VbzNDK2CsQTFwIHIBg&ved=0CDEQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=%22american%20country%20countdown%22%20%22don%20bowman%22&f=trueInterestingly years later, in a story Billboard had on P. 50 of July 11, 1981 issue (titled: “Syndication Markets Growing” in the magazine’s country section) Neil Haislop, researcher for ACC, surmises that Bob Kingsley’s “non-regional style may have contributed to wider acceptance “ of the show (carried then on 300 stations, up from 120 just about three years earlier when it was a Don Bowman “vehicle.”) Bowman acted on the AT40 he guest hosted pretty much the same way he did on AT40. One liners, jokes, etc. To this day, the worst AT40 I've ever heard. And yes, that includes music artists guest hosts from this decade.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Apr 24, 2015 20:54:14 GMT -5
I have the Bowman AT40 but I haven't gotten around to listening to it.
I know he was friendly with many of the people he made fun of and some of the jokes were funny. Plus he did do a lot of story telling and info giving.
I do like Bob Kingsley better, but sometimes the not so serious approach is ok. Odd since I don't like Rick Dees AT ALL!
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Post by dukelightning on Apr 24, 2015 21:09:56 GMT -5
The comment Don made that stuck with me more than any other from the AT40 he guest hosted was this.......
This is Don Bowman sitting in for the sickly Casey Kasem who I guarantee you will be back next week. After hearing this, he may be back in the last hour!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 5:54:41 GMT -5
The comment Don made that stuck with me more than any other from the AT40 he guest hosted was this....... This is Don Bowman sitting in for the sickly Casey Kasem who I guarantee you will be back next week. After hearing this, he may be back in the last hour! If only....
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Post by ds on Apr 30, 2015 23:59:17 GMT -5
Any word on what time any of the Nash icon stations will air it? Or when any other stations will?
We're one/two days away from the debut show and I can't find anything online other than the initial press releases.
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Post by dukelightning on May 2, 2015 8:36:13 GMT -5
This week's show is from 5/1/93. I tried several Nash Icon stations and found it on 92.5 out of Muskegon, Michigan. Only caught the last 5 songs as they evidently started teh show at 6AM EDT.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 12:01:28 GMT -5
FYI, not all Nash branded stations will be airing the show.
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Post by briguy52748 on May 2, 2015 18:44:07 GMT -5
FYI, not all Nash branded stations will be airing the show. I'm guessing that most of the Nash stations that will air ACC Rewind will be the "Icon" branded ones; Icon, of course, being stations that air current songs along with the biggest hits of the 1990s and 2000s, primarily by the Reba McEntires, Vince Gills, Tim McGraws, Brooks and Dunns, Garth Brookses, etc. of the world and occasional oldies from 1989 and earlier. I do know that, for instance, the Des Moines, Iowa, has two Nash stations, with KJJY (92.5 FM) being the Icon-branded one. Two questions: * Any word on what non-Nash (if any) stations are airing the show? * For those who do happen to catch the full show -- what's the format of the show, based on what we've heard so far? By that, I mean does it follow much like the AT40 reruns (occasional removal of extras, optional extras, edits to accommodate for increased commercials, etc.)? * As we learn of stations confirmed to be playing ACC Rewind, can we develop a station list and times? (And weblinks for live streaming)? I know I asked previously ... . Thanks Brian
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Post by rayshae3 on May 2, 2015 20:04:35 GMT -5
According to the 'shows' page of their site WNUQ-FM/102.1 (a Nash-Icon station) in Albany, GA IS airing the 3-hr retro show (but I couldn't find the day and time from their site.)
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Post by dukelightning on May 3, 2015 7:16:43 GMT -5
98.9 out of Atlanta started teh show at 8AM EDT. As far as the show sequence, there are commercial breaks every quarter hour. Into the second hour now. (actually third hour as this is the last 3 hours of a 4 hour show). There are no optional extras at least not on this station.
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