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Post by djjoe1960 on Jun 4, 2021 16:59:38 GMT -5
The legal action was resolved with the Shirelles a few years ago, but Sirius also didn't play the aforementioned group on their channel. Just think how many early 60's countdowns would be affected with songs like Will You Love Me Tomorrow, Baby It's You, Dedicated to the One I Love, Soldier Boy, Foolish Little Girl. Foolish Little Girls (the Shirelles)--imagine not being represented on a channel dedicated to playing the hits of the 1960's.
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Post by jgve1952 on Jun 5, 2021 16:08:45 GMT -5
Today was a most unexpected countdown, but loved it all the same. It featured the Top 40 Solo Hits from January to June of 1970. Surprised that #2 was Instant Karma as it peaked at #3 and spent 13 weeks on the Hot 100, yet Ray Stevens, Everything Is Beautiful was #1 for 2 weeks, and spent 17 weeks on the Hot 100. It ranked at #3 on the Special Countdown of Solo Hits.
For 1970 yearend, Instant Karma was #34 for the year as Everything is Beautiful was #12. Both songs had all their points within the year (no overlaps from previous or into the next year).
Not to split hairs, but isn't John Lennon and the Plastic Ono Band considered a group vs. solo artist?
Next week: 1968, which is breaking the consecutive years of 1960 to 1965 all featured this Spring. Likely feature date will be 6-15-68.
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Post by mrjukebox on Jun 5, 2021 19:18:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up-I'll definitely listen to that countdown.
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Post by mrjukebox on Jun 5, 2021 19:20:50 GMT -5
If next weekend's countdown is 6/15/68,it was a week after Robert Kennedy was assassinated.
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Post by doofus67 on Jun 5, 2021 20:08:29 GMT -5
Today's list was extracted from Ranking the '70s, by Dann Isbell and Bill Carroll. Their chart data for that particular book came strictly from Cash Box. That's why the song placements might look a little odd.
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Post by mrjukebox on Jun 5, 2021 20:19:03 GMT -5
Odd that Dave would go with a rival trade publication-But then again,the authors of "Ranking The 70's" probably thought the Cash Box surveys were more authoritative than Billboard-Just saying.
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Post by mrjukebox on Jun 5, 2021 21:44:30 GMT -5
Listening to this survey now,it's awesome!
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Post by doofus67 on Jun 5, 2021 22:47:46 GMT -5
Odd that Dave would go with a rival trade publication-But then again,the authors of "Ranking The 70's" probably thought the Cash Box surveys were more authoritative than Billboard-Just saying. For what it's worth, I agree that Cash Box was the more realistic and consistent chart. Which is why I once asked Bill Carroll, "Why Cash Box, when Dann used Billboard for the 60s book?" He said it had a little to do with the quality issues, but mostly it was because the licensing rights to Cash Box were easier to obtain.
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Post by doofus67 on Jun 5, 2021 23:56:57 GMT -5
60s SATELLITE SURVEY "PRE-CASEY" SPECIAL The top 40 songs by solo artists for January through June, 1970 * Depending on which release you look at, "Instant Karma" was credited to either John Ono Lennon or John Ono Lennon (with the Plastic Ono Band). The former pressing was released on 1/27/70, the latter on 1/29/70. Here are the label images: www.45cat.com/record/1818www.45cat.com/record/1818us** Some pressings of this 45 credit the song to Rick Nelson, other pressings to Rick Nelson and the Stone Canyon Band. Rank | Title and artist | CB Peak | Date | Overall decade | 40 | HEY, MISTER SUN...Bobby Sherman | #23 | June 27 | 1,722 | 39 | EVERYBODY'S OUT OF TOWN...B.J. Thomas | #21 | May 2 | 1,910 | 38 | SHE CAME IN THROUGH THE BATHROOM WINDOW...Joe Cocker | #36 | Jan 31 | 1,942 | 37 | LET'S WORK TOGETHER...Wilbert Harrison One Man Band | #30 | Feb 21 | 1,884 | 36 | SHE BELONGS TO ME...Rick Nelson** | #30 | Jan 31 | 1,769 | 35 | CUPID...Johnny Nash | #36 | Jan 10 | 1,719 | 34 | WHAT IS TRUTH...Johnny Cash | #11 | May 9 | 1,282 | 33 | FANCY...Bobbie Gentry | #31 | Feb 7 | 1,394 | 32 | WONDERFUL WORLD, BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE...Jimmy Cliff | #18 | Jan 31 | 1,283 | 31 | REACH OUT AND TOUCH (Somebody's Hand)...Diana Ross | #10 | May 30 | 1,254 | 30 | AIN'T IT FUNKY NOW...James Brown | #40 | 12/20/69 | ----- | 29 | HONEY COME BACK...Glen Campbell | #11 | Feb 21 | 971 | 28 | BABY TAKE ME IN YOUR ARMS...Jefferson | #19 | Feb 14 | 1,140 | 27 | DO THE FUNKY CHICKEN...Rufus Thomas | #50 | Mar 14 | 2,211 | 26 | LONG LONESOME HIGHWAY...Michael Parks | #13 | April 25 | 1,289 | 25 | SHILO...Neil Diamond | #23 | April 25 | 1,674 | 24 | KENTUCKY RAIN...Elvis Presley | #10 | Mar 14 | 1,170 | 23 | OH ME OH MY (I'm a Fool for You Baby)...Lulu | #18 | Mar 14 | 1,281 | 22 | WINTER WORLD OF LOVE...Engelbert Humperdinck | #13 | Jan 31 | 952 | 21 | DAUGHTER OF DARKNESS...Tom Jones | #10 | June 6 | 864 | 20 | CALL ME...Aretha Franklin | #13 | April 11 | 1,010 | 19 | THE THRILL IS GONE...B.B. King | #15 | Feb 28 | 1,257 | 18 | WALK A MILE IN MY SHOES...Joe South | #12 | Feb 21 | 965 | 17 | FOR THE LOVE OF HIM...Bobbi Martin | #9 | May 23 | 761 | 16 | LA LA LA (If I Had You)...Bobby Sherman | #11 | Jan 17 | 815 | 15 | ARIZONA...Mark Lindsay | #9 | Feb 14 | 743 | 14 | THE WONDER OF YOU...Elvis Presley | #10 | July 4 | 824 | 13 | JAM UP AND JELLY TIGHT...Tommy Roe | #5 | Jan 10 | 459 | 12 | EASY COME, EASY GO...Bobby Sherman | #7 | April 18 | 675 | 11 | I'LL NEVER FALL IN LOVE AGAIN...Dionne Warwick | #6 | Feb 7 | 633 | 10 | THE LETTER...Joe Cocker | #5 | June 13 | 534 | 9 | DON'T CRY DADDY...Elvis Presley | #6 | Jan 24 | 537 | 8 | WITHOUT LOVE (There Is Nothing)...Tom Jones | #5 | Feb 7 | 590 | 7 | TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME...Tyrone Davis | #4 | May 16 | 407 | 6 | RAINY NIGHT IN GEORGIA...Brook Benton | #2 | Mar 14 | 276 | 5 | HEY THERE LONELY GIRL...Eddie Holman | #2 | Feb 21 | 144 | 4 | SPIRIT IN THE SKY...Norman Greenbaum | #1 | May 2 | 25 | 3 | EVERYTHING IS BEAUTIFUL...Ray Stevens | #1 | June 6 | 341 | 2 | INSTANT KARMA (We All Shine On)...John Ono Lennon* | #3 | Mar 28 | 104 | 1 | RAINDROPS KEEP FALLIN' ON MY HEAD...B.J. Thomas | #1 | Jan 10 | 7 |
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Post by mkarns on Jun 6, 2021 0:09:00 GMT -5
Odd about the Cash Box licensing being easier to obtain; Rick Dees' 1983-84 countdowns used it and aren't replayed now presumably because he doesn't have the rights to replay shows with its data. Sirius XM's 80s countdown often used Cashbox charts for a time in 2009-10 but not since.
I get the impression that Cash Box and Billboard, and possibly Music Vendor, Record World, and others were all considered close to equally credible at least prior to 1970 and AT40 choosing Billboard, which may have come to be regarded as the authority by many only after the general public could hear Casey Kasem counting down its pop chart every week. Both Billboard and Cash Box seem decently credible through most of the 80s, then in the 90s CB seemingly went off the rails (Wayne Newton at #1 pop in 1992 with a song that didn't chart anywhere else? Seriously?) and ceased to exist altogether in 1996, before being revived as an online-only outlet since 2006. Billboard has also of course had questions and issues with chart methodology right up to the present, but at least has survived continuously and is still regarded as the chart of record by many.
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Post by skyseth on Jun 6, 2021 4:02:49 GMT -5
Although the book " Rankin' The '70s uses the Casbox charts , Dave Hoeffel mention the Billboard peak position during the show, when he did for some tracks.
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Post by mrjukebox on Jun 6, 2021 12:40:36 GMT -5
I was surprised that Dave didn't play "Lay Down (Candles In The Rain)" by Melanie.
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Post by djjoe1960 on Jun 6, 2021 13:58:46 GMT -5
Odd about the Cash Box licensing being easier to obtain; Rick Dees' 1983-84 countdowns used it and aren't replayed now presumably because he doesn't have the rights to replay shows with its data. Sirius XM's 80s countdown often used Cashbox charts for a time in 2009-10 but not since. I get the impression that Cash Box and Billboard, and possibly Music Vendor, Record World, and others were all considered close to equally credible at least prior to 1970 and AT40 choosing Billboard, which may have come to be regarded as the authority by many only after the general public could hear Casey Kasem counting down its pop chart every week. Both Billboard and Cash Box seem decently credible through most of the 80s, then in the 90s CB seemingly went off the rails (Wayne Newton at #1 pop in 1992 with a song that didn't chart anywhere else? Seriously?) and ceased to exist altogether in 1996, before being revived as an online-only outlet since 2006. Billboard has also of course had questions and issues with chart methodology right up to the present, but at least has survived continuously and is still regarded as the chart of record by many. Billboard had the most subscribers when all three trades existed, so the industry (music business) must've thought Billboard was worth the money (both for ad dollars and subscriptions). Between Cash Box & Record World opinions differed as to what charts were the most accurate--but near the middle of the 1970's Record World's charts seemed to slow down and some of their chart placements became more questionable--which probably led to their demise in 1982.
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Post by doofus67 on Jun 6, 2021 14:42:25 GMT -5
I was surprised that Dave didn't play "Lay Down (Candles In The Rain)" by Melanie. Perhaps because it was credited to Melanie with the Edwin Hawkins Singers?
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Post by mrjukebox on Jun 6, 2021 14:49:18 GMT -5
Perhaps if Dave does a second 1970 show,he'll include that song.
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