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Post by dukelightning on Feb 11, 2024 8:20:34 GMT -5
Super Sunday has started with an AT40 for me. This is the second guest hosted show in Shadoe's run, Donny Osmond on the 2/17/90 show. He starts by saying that last week's #1 song "Opposites Attract" was the 900th #1 hit in Billboard chart history. So he is going back to July 1940 for the first one. That means the 1000th #1 hit will be "Un-break My Heart" at the end of 1996. We are a couple weeks away from the 13 year anniversary of the 1000th Hot 100 #1 hit "Born This Way" by Lady Gaga. It took about 56 and a half years to get to 1000 #1 hits in Billboard chart history, about 52 and a half years to do so in Hot 100 history. So what about AT40 history? Based on how long AT40 has existed which is just short of 50 and a half years, they must be within shouting distance of that number now, past 900. I doubt Seacrest mentions it when it happens however. Donny says that Elton is closing in on Elvis' record for the most consecutive years hitting the top 40. He's at 21 years, Elvis had 22 and would tie it in 1991. He did of course although that was the latest in a year that he had a hit debuting on the 12/14/91 show with "Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me". Elvis is the subject of one of my faves in this show, "Black Velvet". Next song was by and followed an interview of Richard Marx. He likes to live a normal life instead of the night owl life that most rock and rollers have when he is working in the studio. Gets in there about 11AM and leaves by 6 or 7. Incidentally Velvet kicked off the third hour and was up 8 notches, Marx' "Too Late to Say Goodbye"(great song too) was up 7 and the next two "C'mon and Get My Love" and "I Go To Extremes" were both up 6. 2 songs later "No More Lies" was up 5 and 2 songs after that "Price of Love" was up 4. But the next song another great one "Here We Are" was up 2. Was looking to see how far that stairstep of climbs went. The ones I skipped were droppers btw. Donny does a tease for the flashback and says they are going back to the year baseball went on strike. 1994 is the year that comes to mind but this show predates that! So it was 1981 which is the first time MLB had a strike that interrupted the season. At least they resolved it and resumed the season then! Speaking of anniversaries, the 10 year anniversary of this thread's inception was yesterday. My first post in it was 10 years ago today. A subtle reference to the Billboard's first chart in the show opening about the 900th #1 hit. Then in mentioning how Expose had become the first female group to hit the top 10 with their first 7 releases, Donny did mention that when saying that the only group to be in the conversation for that feat was the Andrew Sisters who he said hit the top 10 with their first 15 releases. However, he said they had hits released before the Billboard chart's inception in 1940 so no one really knows whether all of those hits would have hit the top 10 or not. This is a show in which I had to listen to nearly the entire show before hearing my fave song in it..."Two to Make it Right", at #2.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 14, 2024 8:19:29 GMT -5
Mark Elliott is guest hosting the 2/22/92 CT40. There are 6 songs which will not reach AT40 including the obvious one "Smells Like Teen Spirit". But that is certainly not the only ridiculousness among such songs. How about "Right Now" that only reached #66 on the Hot 100 Airplay chart that AT40 used or "Live and Let Die" that did not even make that chart! It was almost 7 songs that did not reach AT40 as John Mellancamps' "Again Tonight" just squeezed in to #40. Mark told a story of how in 1976 John was shocked to see a name on his debut album that he was not familiar with...John Cougar. He had not been told that using his given name was not going to fly. He hated the John Cougar name but had no choice. Mark also told of what could be the next big thing, cable radio. It was going to be 100s of stations that played anything from all Elvis to sounds of cows mooing. Never came to be as far as I can tell. It would be another 10 years or so before a similar thing came to be in the form of satellite radio, though Sirius XM does not have that many channels. He also told of how Paul Young cannot sing the songs he writes because he has this habit of only being able to sing them a certain way. Does not have the flexibility that you need to sing a song properly. He only has it when he sings other people's songs which is why on his latest album, only one of the 12 songs was written by him. I looked it up and he has never hit the top 40 with a song he wrote. Highest peak was #56 in 1985.
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Post by chrislc on Feb 14, 2024 20:00:12 GMT -5
Yikes Casey couldn't have been thrilled when he had to segue from Take Off into Empty Garden. At least in this case he could blame it on Billboard.
BTW Bob and Doug really weren't very funny by SCTV standards. Still funnier than Empty Garden, though.
Elt could be kind of a Debbie Downer, huh? Funeral For A Friend, Empty Garden, Candle In The Wind, Another Candle In The Wind, Still Another Candle In The Wind. Sheesh. What's next? Gloomy Sunday?
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 15, 2024 8:40:46 GMT -5
Life is very important to him judging by how much he sang about it. Whether it is lives lost or restored, the latter the subject of "Someone Saved My Life Tonight".
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Post by chrislc on Feb 16, 2024 16:31:54 GMT -5
Wow Casey loved that Fairytale tale. I just heard it yesterday going into Should I Do It and just now going into Fire.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 18, 2024 19:55:23 GMT -5
Actually, E&J would be the 9th. That 1996 show you checked out earlier today would have the 8th: No Mercy, featuring twin dancing brothers Ariel and Gabriel Hernandez. And I'm still wrong. To find the 9th, go to the summer of 1998 - where you'll find the duo Swirl 360, who like Evan and Jaron were a twin brother act. So that pushes E&J out to the 10th act with twins. Here is another act with twins in it...the Breeders. Casey told a story of how Kim and Kelley Deal were so identical as twins that even their parents could not tell them apart when they were growing up. Their mom took to painting their fingernails different colors so she could know who was who. I learned this on the 3/5/94 CT40. Followed Jodeci in the countdown so that's a group with brothers and a group with sisters back to back. One of my faves in this show is "Cantaloop". And Casey tells a story about one of my fave foods...cantaloupe. It turns out that cantaloupe is something else. What we in the US call cantaloupe is actually musk melon. A cantaloupe is not the rough surface with the orange colored interior but a smooth green surface with a white interior. That is what you get when you ask for cantaloupe in Europe. Oops, Casey said 'coming up on Casey's Countdown'. It was a R&D so it would be a song played on both CT40 and the AC countdown. The problems of doing multiple countdowns! Probably made that kind of mistake a few times every year.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 19, 2024 7:50:52 GMT -5
After Casey says how Rob Thomas thinks their music is a lot more interesting than themselves, I see that Matchbox 20 and Chicago have a couple of similarities. They both wanted the focus to be on their music instead of the band members. Here's another commonality. Their second hits both had titles about times in the wee hours..."3AM" and "25 or 6 to 4". Peaked at numbers in those titles(3 and 4). Looks like Jessica and I think alike.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 19, 2024 13:38:19 GMT -5
The 3/6/93 CT40 has Casey mentioning something that both he and Shadoe have stumbled over repeatedly without getting it right. Finally Casey got it right, but then... It is the record for most consecutive years hitting the top 40. Before playing Elton's "Simple Life" debuting, he mentioned how by doing so, he was the first artist to hit the top 40 every year for 24 years. He reviewed how the old record had been held by Elvis. In all the previous times I have heard Casey or Shadoe talk about this, they only gave Elvis a streak of 22 years. But this time, Casey mentioned how "My Way" was in the top 40 in 1978 which gave him a 23 year streak. For the record, that was only in the top 40 the first week of the year which is why the mistake was made so many times. But since Elvis had other hits in 1977, it is fair to credit that hit to 1978.* However, in saying this, Casey is still making a mistake. He is using Billboard chart data because "My Way" did not hit the R&R chart. So in essence he is talking about a Billboard chart record. Then he makes another mistake. He says that when "Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me" was a hit in 1992, it moved Elton into a tie for the record. That was his only hit in 1991 so it cannot count towards 1992. What he should have said is that when "The One" hit the top 40 later in 1992, that moved him into a tie. He alludes to what I am referring to when he says that "Simple Life" is his first new hit in 1993. New hits are what allow these streaks to continue, not hits carrying over from the previous year, unless there were other hits in that year. Complicated for sure which is why numerous mistakes have been made regarding this streak. For the record, Elton will stretch the streak to 26 years before getting shutout in 1996 to end it. Casey does get it right when after playing "Open Arms" as an R&D, he says it is a #1 hit. That hit #1 in R&R but not Billboard. A couple songs before that was another ballad used as a R&D frequently going forward, the first of 3 hits in the countdown for Whitney..."I Will Always Love You".
*I see that I mentioned this topic in the first post on this page.
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Post by freakyflybry on Feb 19, 2024 20:12:38 GMT -5
Been listening to a Casey marathon today - so far listened to AT40's from March 5, 1988, then February 28, 1981 and most recently March 2, 2001.
Will be firing up Casey's Top 40 with David Perry guest host from March 12, 1994 later on.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 20, 2024 18:40:41 GMT -5
A 20 year range of shows there. That 1994 show is on my radar, probably next week I will listen to it. Now it's the first 1997 show of the year for me, the 3/15/97 CT40. Casey says that Ginuwine is a big Michael Jackson fan and his fave MJ song is the million seller "Billie Jean". Casey says that "Pony" is a million seller too. While it certainly did a lot better on the Hot 100 than in R&R, it's #6 peak still seems low for a million seller seeing as sales heavy hits typically got at least near #1 there. Not even his biggest hit on the Hot 100. Had a pair of #4 hits. The Blackout All Stars are a one time super group. A couple of artists that hit the top 10 in the 80s are in it...Sheila E. and Grover Washington Jr. "I Like It" is the song and I concur with the title. One of the most Latino flavored top 40 hits I have ever heard. The other artists in the group are all Latino guys. Tough R&D to hear. This gal after foregoing an abortion after the dire diagnosis, had her baby live for only an hour and 11 minutes. Girls really have to deal with things that guys never have to deal with when it comes to births that don't go well. Women are still dominating the top of the chart as they have been since 1997 began. Only the Counting Crows have a hit in the top 11 not sung by a woman. One of those features another gal singing backup that I was not aware of until Casey mentioned it. Shanice sings backup on "Unbreak My Heart".
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 21, 2024 9:01:44 GMT -5
The 3/3/90 CT40 is one of those where because of R&D/LDDs, both hits by an artist or pair of artists is played. In this case, it is Linda Ronstadt and Aaron Neville whose 2 collaborative hits are in the countdown, "All My Life" at #20 and "Don't Know Much" as a R&D after #5. Casey says after playing "Here We Are" that it is Gloria Estafan backed by the Miami Sound Machine. Earlier in the show he said it was Joan Jett with her first hit without the Blackhearts. But it sounded like they were doing the backup vocals in which case Casey could have said it was Joan Jett backed by the Blackhearts. Both cases being that the leader of the group had gone solo. I think there may have been a skip of some kind because Casey said he would review the #1s on the other charts. But the only chart he mentioned was the country chart. Of course he only mentions that and the R&B chart when reviewing other chart #1s until 1992 when the AC chart is added to that segment. Fave 2 songs in this show are the biggest dropper and biggest mover and they both move by numbers divisible by 10. "Two to Make it Right" was down 20 to 31 and "Don't Wanna Fall in Love" was up 10 to 25. Good story about Jane Child learning to play classical music and then trying to switch to rock & roll. Her classical training made it heard for her to improvise as rock requires. She could not sing very well either. But a nearly year long tour with her band got her enough practice to finally get it right.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Feb 21, 2024 16:35:39 GMT -5
dukelightning: Unless I'm misreading your post, Casey mentioned #1 on the black chart after #1 on the country chart. Maybe a skip in your copy of the show? I had skips in my original copy, but got a remastered copy in 2017. I don't recall where the skips were; I trashed that copy once I received the remaster. I should read up on the AC chart, and when Casey starts mentioning it. I picked 3/30/1991 just for kicks (since that's the show Casey refers to R&R as the industry's number one newspaper), and again, he only mentions the black and country charts. The search continues. I wish I had a lot more time to devote to this stuff. ETA: He mentions #1 on the AC chart on the 2/29/1992 show, the week before Casey's Countdown launches. I already checked 1/4 and 2/1, wasn't on either. So I've narrowed it down quite a bit. Checked out 2/22 (with Mark Elliott), and he did not mention the AC chart. ETA: Feeling a little stupid now; I just came across the Casey's Countdown thread (WW1 folder), where you mentioned this very topic, and that 2/29 was the first show to include the #1 AC hit on that chart. Maybe I'll give myself a 🤦♂️ (usually reserved for someone else on here 😂). Maybe not stupid, just forgot about that stat.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 22, 2024 6:29:17 GMT -5
LOL!! As I was reading that part about the AC chart, I was thinking that I had posted about this at some point. I just heard that 2/22/92 CT40 last week too. Yes I was referring to a skip in the 1990 show. There was one a minute or so later during "Here We Are". Still odd that for those 3 years, Casey only mentioned #1 hits from just 2 other charts.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Feb 22, 2024 9:34:57 GMT -5
Looking back through R&R issues, I see the first AC chart was published in the 10/9/1981 issue. It had split from their top 30 airplay chart. So Casey could have started mentioning the #1 AC hit from CT40's start.
Just finishing up AT40 from 5/26/1984, with CVD at the mic. About to cross into June, still alternating between 1983 and 1984.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 23, 2024 19:22:15 GMT -5
Of course Casey had not been mentioning the AC chart #1 hits in his AT40 days either. Will have to check to see when Shadoe started doing that. Will have a chance to witness that if it happens, in a couple hours on this 3/11/89 AT40. Shadoe tells an interesting story of how Hank Williams Jr. came upon an old recording of his Dad's who had died 36 years earlier. He went into the studio and with the technical prowess that was already on hand at the time was able to produce a duet between himself and his Dad. So a precursor to what happened a couple years later when Natalie Cole recorded "Unforgettable" with her Dad's vocals. Then in a rarity, Shadoe mentions 'our sister show American Country Countdown with Bob Kingsley' because he said at #20 there was this song and he played a clip of it. He also mentioned how they came up with a video for it. They had found some black and white footage of his Dad to create a silhouette and in a bit of wizardry, had his Dad looking like he was lip synching the words. His Dad being Hank Williams Sr. of course. This followed 'You Got It" Roy Orbison who had just set the record for longest gap between first chart and most recent appearance. Now there's a record that has been broken several times since, Cher and Elton being a couple of obvious examples. Maybe also the aforementioned Nat King Cole. Another precursor situation is that of "I Beg Your Pardon". Kon Kan used a computerized synthesizer to sample Lynn Anderson's vocals in "Rose Garden". They knew they needed permission to use that in their song and it took 6 months to get it from the publishers and CBS Records. This reminds me of what happened in 1990 when the DJs of DNA were messing around with Suzanne Vega's "Tom's Diner" but did not get permission initially. 2 features are in their infancy if not their debut on this show...the start of hour theme music and the flashback with Shadoe saying that they are small bite size samples of each hit. Fave 2 songs in the show are back to back at the start of hour 4..."My Heart Can't Tell You No" and "The Lover in Me" which means I have heard both of Sheena's top 10 R&B hits today in this and the 80s show. Other charts #1 hits mentioned were country, dance, black and album.
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