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Post by michaelcasselman on Jan 21, 2024 13:55:08 GMT -5
My faulty memory says that Shadoe did mention "Do The Bartman", but I wanna say it was some months after it charted on Dees and CT40. I wanna say Shadoe mentioned it in regards to the increasing number of occurances of popular tracks that didn't chart due to not having a single released.
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Post by woolebull on Jan 27, 2024 12:34:17 GMT -5
I just finished two important shows: one I had heard many times, and the other my first time listening all the way through. For the one I had never heard totally: CT 1/21/89. The last time I heard a small part of it was 1/22/89, got in the car after church, "Walking Away" by Information Society was on, then I hear Casey's voice saying it was at #14, then I let out an explanative to the effect of saying the King was back, then having my mom turn the radio off saying things such as Jesus was king and obviously church did nothing for me on that day 🤣. Ahhh, memories!
I won't go into much detail because the show has been talked about many times before. A couple of things stood out: 1) The incessant use of the phrase, "CT40" instead of "Casey's Top 40" is pretty wild. I can see why AT went after CT for infringement. 2) I thought CT had a cool thing going with having their first show have a instrumental ("Silhouette") and the last show in 1998 having an instrumental as well ("Southampton"). I guess that still is true if you count the "Top 40" show that has no name in March of 1998. 3) We mentioned earlier that sometimes Casey would use Billboard stats instead of R and R, even with songs charting after 1973. I thought I caught Casey doing that on the first show of CT 40 when he said, "Born To Be My Baby" was Bon Jovi's sixth song to hit the top 40. I could have sworn this was Bon Jovi's seventh R and R hit, but now am wondering if "Runaway" actually hit R and R. Anyone know off hand?
The second show was American Top 40 from 1/28/95. This show I have heard many times and won't get bogged down in it either. A couple of things: 1) There was a part of me listening to this that wishes AT could have gone on just a month or so more so I could have heard Shadoe introduce acts such as Blues Traveler. Then I thought the looping "Runaround" would have gotten and I think I am good! 2) I love Shadoe's extras, especially playing "Into The Groove". While he was playing another extra, "Rhythm Nation", I thought how cool would it have been if he had played, "State Of The World" which I think would have made for two of the biggest songs to never hit AT 40. I mean, throw in "Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming" and "Bartman" and I think you would have the four most popular songs from 1984-1995 to never hit AT. Still, production errors aside, I love this show. The music is amazing, but Shadoe is truly Shadoe on this show. And I absolutely love it.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 27, 2024 15:21:29 GMT -5
That would be a good question for Ryan Seacrest to answer for the 21st century. As a point of reference, the biggest drop from #1 this year was "Barbie World' which dropped to #4. I am guessing the number of hits that dropped further this century can be counted on one hand. I am rounding out the year with the 1/19/91 AT40. Shadoe plays a clip of "Do the Bartman" and says the video is everywhere and the song is all over the radio. So why is it not on AT40 he asks in the tease. He answers it by saying that the Hot 100 chart is based on airplay and sales. To be eligible, it must be commercially available as a single. He then plays clips of the Beatles' "Michelle", "Stairway to Heaven" and "Into the Groove", saying that the latter was only available as a B side to the 12" dance single for "Angel", all examples of well known songs not released as singles. The flashback is to 1976 and at #2 is the hit that takes the biggest drop from #1 since that rash of big drops in 1974. "Theme from Mahogany" fell to #11. The diva of the 70s there and the 5 divas of the 90s are all in this show with a total of 7 songs. Mariah and Whitney each have a pair that all hit #1 as did Madonna and Janet's hits with the latter replacing the former on top and Celine, the latter debuting with her first hit the previous week. Make it 8 songs by those divas including the LDD which was "Vision of Love". Makes this the first time in AT40 history that an artists first 3 hits are in the same regular show. Won't happen again on either AT40 or CT40 until 1995 when Real McCoy has their first 3 hits all in the countdown. Great medley of all the top 5 hits produced by Arif Martin. Aretha Franklin's 3 top 5 hits in the 70s, "Pick Up the Pieces", "Jivetalkin'", "You Should Hear How She Talks About You", Phil Collins first 2 movie #1 hits, "I Feel For You" and "Wind Beneath My Wings" and a couple others. Leading into "From a Distance" which will also reach the top 5. woolebull and michaelcasselman asked about "Do the Bartman" so I am reposting this from a weeks ago.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 27, 2024 15:29:16 GMT -5
woolebull thanks for the shout out about 6000+ posts. To answer your question about Bon Jovi, yes Casey did make a mistake! While "Runaway" did make the top 40 on R&R, 2 songs which were not released as singles made the top 40 on R&R but obviously not on the Hot 100. "Never Can Say Goodbye" which reached 35 and "Edge of a Broken Heart" which reached #39 were both from 1987. So "Born to be My Baby" is their 8th top 40 hit on R&R. I think you need to rephrase your statement about the four most popular songs not to make AT40, 1984-95. You should state that those are the four most popular non-released hits not to make AT40. Because "Smells Like Teen Spirit" also failed to ever be played on AT40. It was released as a single of course but the ridiculous chart they used caused it to never be played. I would say it was either that or "Into the Groove" that is the most popular song not to be played on AT40, 1984-95. Btw, I am listening to a show myself. This week's 80s show. Casey was at his peak for his entire 4 decade career in 1988 IMO.
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Post by woolebull on Jan 27, 2024 22:13:59 GMT -5
woolebull thanks for the shout out about 6000+ posts. To answer your question about Bon Jovi, yes Casey did make a mistake! While "Runaway" did make the top 40 on R&R, 2 songs which were not released as singles made the top 40 on R&R but obviously not on the Hot 100. "Never Can Say Goodbye" which reached 35 and "Edge of a Broken Heart" which reached #39 were both from 1987. So "Born to be My Baby" is their 8th top 40 hit on R&R. I think you need to rephrase your statement about the four most popular songs not to make AT40, 1984-95. You should state that those are the four most popular non-released hits not to make AT40. Because "Smells Like Teen Spirit" also failed to ever be played on AT40. It was released as a single of course but the ridiculous chart they used caused it to never be played. I would say it was either that or "Into the Groove" that is the most popular song not to be played on AT40, 1984-95. Btw, I am listening to a show myself. This week's 80s show. Casey was at his peak for his entire 4 decade career in 1988 IMO. Good call on "Spirit". Yup, need to rephrase the question though from a peak position on R and R the foure I mentioned could still hold up, I think. After 11/30/91 of course it becomes murkier to truly know. I honestly will never believe how low on AT "Jump Around" peaked. And how it never showed up on CT yet some random song by Big Daddy Kane a little later did. 1988 Casey is my favorite as well. He truly was hitting his stride.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 29, 2024 8:54:15 GMT -5
Now I'm listening to one of those AT40 shows that "Smells Like Teen Spirit" should have been in, the 1/18/92 countdown. You mention "Jump Around" peaking a lot lower than it should have peaked on AT40 (and CT40 for that matter). Here's another one. Jodeci are in with "Forever My Lady" and 2 releases later will be their top 10 hit "Come & Talk to Me". In between is "Stay" that I hear on the R&B throwback station. Great song that squeezed onto CT40 at #39. But it only reached #54 on the chart AT40 was using. Quite surprising seeing as R&B hits did better on AT40 than CT40 in 1992 while AT40 was using whatever chart they were using. Speaking of R&B, Shadoe mentions how Mavis Staples became the first artist to hit #1 with 2 different versions of the same song on the R&B chart. She was a featured artist on CeCe Winans' "I'll Take You There" which hit #1 R&B a few weeks earlier that the Staple Singers hit #1 with in 1972. Said that Dolly Parton accomplished that feat on the country chart with "I Will Always Love You". Never happened on the pop chart. Closest that I can think of is "December 1963" that hit #6 as the remixed version in 1994 after the original hit #1. Actually a song in this show came closer. "Don't Let the Sun Go Down On Me" hit #2 originally and the live version with George Michael hit #1 on the Hot 100. Surprised Shadoe did not mention anything about this. Did say 'the original hit #2 and the live version is up to #6 this week'. Another great song according to both Shadoe and myself is "Keep Coming Back". Shadoe praises Richard Marx for doing the show the previous week. Heard that one previously. In fact, I have now heard every January show Shadoe did as a result of hearing this show. I am down to less than 40 shows left to hear of the 330 or so countdowns done by Shadoe.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 29, 2024 15:22:28 GMT -5
With January in the books as far as the Shadoe shows are concerned, it's time to flip the calendar. So it's the 2/4/89 AT40. He does a good job explaining and playing clips from the songs referenced in Kon Kan's "I Beg Your Pardon" with that line coming from "Rose Garden" and an instrumental set of chords at the end of the song coming from the 1961 theme from Magnificent Seven. Did not realize the latter all these years of hearing this hit. But I think he could have gone one step further. In the middle of the song they sing 'rock freak, that's right'. To me, that is an obvious reference to "Disco Nights" and "Get Up and Boogie", respectively. It's a show that was recorded on or about January 25th but Shadoe makes one of those 'forgot it's a new year' mistakes. In listing the 7 acts who have club in their name(all of which came in the 80s starting with Tom Tom Club in 1982), he says 'last year we had Club Nouveau and the Breakfast Club'. Except those groups hit in 1987. Kind of late to be making that mistake! Anyway, Boys Club and Escape Club are in the countdown and "I Remember Holding You" is a great song. Another great one is the week's biggest mover. That's "Roni" up 10 spots from the album that made Bobby Brown the 4th teenager to have a #1 album, after Rick Nelson, Stevie Wonder and Tiffany. Fave song in this show is "The Lover in Me". 12th top 40 hit for Sheena as Shadoe said. A lot of singles and doubles with those first 11 hits. But she hit this one out of the park! OMG!!! A huge mistake made by Shadoe when he says that "Two Hearts" which fell to #10, had taken the biggest fall from #1 since "Can't Get Enough of Your Love, Babe" fell to #12 in 1974. "Rock Me Gently", "You Aint Seen Nothin Yet" and "Whatever Gets You Through the Night" all fell to 12 in the next few weeks. And "Nothing From Nothing" and "Then Came You" both dropped to #15 in that time frame. Plus "Theme from Mahogany" fell to #11 in 1976. Wow he really blew that one!!
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 30, 2024 14:39:30 GMT -5
10 years and a week after the 80s show last week when Casey said that Inxs was the 5th Australian artist to hit #1 is a show with the next Australian artist to hit #1, Savage Garden. They first did so in 1997 and then the week before on the 10 year anniversary of Inxs hitting the top, they scored their second one. This is the 2/7/98 CT40. The first hour features a few edited songs and unique situations. Boyz II Men have hits at 40 and 36 and Nathan Morris who has the deep voice also sings backup on Uncle Sam's hit at 37. That's 3 of the first 5 songs in the show that he sings on which has to be the first time any such thing as happened. And I would not be surprised if that feat has not been matched since. After his back to back hits, the next 2 hits featured Mase. First with his own hit "Feels So Good" and then on "Mo Money Mo Problems" when he is a featured artist. One of my fave sampled songs there("I'm Coming Out") and at least this made it onto CT40. BIG's previous hit that also reached #1 on the Hot 100 which is my fave sampled hit, did not. That would be "Hypnotize" which samples "Rise". Both of those Mase hits and "My Love is the Shhh!" were edited to about 2 and a half minutes. Need to also point out that there were back to back doubles in that stretch...Nathan Morris was part of 37 and 36 and then Mase was part of 35 and 34. Not sure that double double has occurred on any other show. Another fave sampling hit is "Gettin Jiggy Wit It" by Will 5-6-7-8-4 Smith. Those are the R&R peaks of his first 5 solo hits. There was a re-debut which is noted as such on therealamericantop40.com but I wish they made a notation for hits moving back up within the top 40. Because I have heard Casey say that several times. Looking forward to the Super Bowl halftime show. Usher's first hit "You Make Me Wanna" holds at #8. After Casey says how Rob Thomas thinks their music is a lot more interesting than themselves, I see that Matchbox 20 and Chicago have a couple of similarities. They both wanted the focus to be on their music instead of the band members. Here's another commonality. Their second hits both had titles about times in the wee hours..."3AM" and "25 or 6 to 4". Peaked at numbers in those titles(3 and 4). 'Rising 5 notches to #2 is Celine Dion with her Titanic smash, "My Heart Will Go On". Except for a moment, I heard it as 'rising 5 notches to #2 is CD with her titanic smash, MHWGO. Indeed it would become a titanic smash as well as a Titanic smash. Interesting prophetic play on words there!
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 3, 2024 18:48:44 GMT -5
Going back 33 years and a day to the 2/2/91 AT40. Martha Wash becomes the second woman to sing lead on 2 hits in the top 40 at the same time. "I Don't Know Anybody Else" by Black Box and "Gonna Make you Sweat" by C&C Music Factory. The first was Darlene Love who did it in 1963 singing a Bob B. Sox & the Blue Jeans hit and the Crystals #1 hit "He's a Rebel". 14 ballads according to Shadoe. If there is one thing that distinguishes the 20th century from the 21st century, it is the number of ballads in the countdown. I think it was just after the turn of the century in 2001, that the average number went down. Certainly very few ballads nowadays. Shadoe makes a half mistake when he answers a question about the most Australian groups in the countdown. He says that there were 4 in early 1983...Men at Work, Little River Band, Moving Pictures and Air Supply. But I specifically remember Casey mentioning that when it happened that there were also 4 in June 1988. They were Midnight Oil, Icehouse, the Church and Inxs. The latter followed Shadoe's answering of the question with "Disappear".
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Post by freakyflybry on Feb 4, 2024 13:58:05 GMT -5
Taking it back just under 37 years to AT40 from February 21, 1987.
I feel the iconic 80's sound was still very prime in this era - Madonna, Janet Jackson, Bon Jovi, Journey, Cyndi Lauper, Genesis, Huey Lewis & the News among other superstars were present in this show. And the debuts included iconic 80's songs like "The Final Countdown" and "Don't Dream It's Over".
With the "Rainbow Connection" LDD, Casey referred to the letter writer's brother, as "r******d". That word certainly wouldn't be used to discuss the condition today.
Casey mentioned several big-name artists who had never won a Grammy up to that point. One of the artists mentioned was Elton John; he has since won several Grammys, including in the 90's for Best Male Pop Vocal and is now an EGOT winner. And while neither Diana Ross nor The Supremes won a competitive Grammy, both have lifetime achievement awards.
There was also a tribute to Liberace on the show. And the second LDD came from Slovakia, which, as part of Czechoslovakia at the time, was behind the Iron Curtain and had to listen from nearby Austria due to this.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 4, 2024 18:32:40 GMT -5
Yes prime 80s stuff there. The Iron Curtain fell just before the 80s ended, mercifully for all those people on the other side of it. I have gone to third week of February as freakyflybry did, to the 2/15/03 AT40. Pat O'Brien is guest hosting. Show starts with Celine Dion's last top 40 hit which is a cover of Cyndi Lauper's last top 40 hit, "I Drove All Night". Pat mentions how Telepopmusik changed the c to a k as a tribute to Kraftwerk who were the first to have an electronic based hit with "Autobahn". Their hit is "Breathe" which is an electronic sounding hit for sure. Next song is "C'mon" by Mario that Pat says has a little sampling of Rob Base's "It Takes Two". Did not hear the sampling of one of my fave songs even though I heard it a second time. Must be a very little sampling as Pat said. Played a clip of a Marvin Gaye and Diana Ross song that was sampled in "Tell Me" by Smilez & Southstar. Would not have recognized that sampling either as it was not one of their top 40 hits that was sampled. First hit in which I recognized the sampled song was the biggest mover "Gossip Folks" which samples "Double Dutch Bus". It's another instance of referencing AT40 instead of the R&R chart when Pat says that "Could've Been" was the #1 song 15 years ago. On AT40, it was #1 whereas in R&R, it was displaced that week by "Father Figure". 'If you had one shot, one opportunity'. There's the opening line from my fave #1 song during the third of a century that Casey was counting down the hits that does not mention the title in the lyrics. "Lose Yourself" and I am not counting instrumentals. Then Pat id'd a station that I heard a bit of AT40 on this morning. Not sure in all these years of hearing these shows, I have ever heard a station id'd on the same day that I heard AT40 on that station. Another white rapper in the countdown is Kid Rock. Pat says how he tried to start his career in 1990 but was derailed by Vanilla Ice. The media had no interest in him since they had just put all their coverage into Vanilla Ice. It took him most of the 90s to get out from under that. That's a shame especially considering Ice was pretty much old news a year after he was #1.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 5, 2024 11:26:36 GMT -5
That 2003 show started and ended with Canadian women with Celine kicking it off and Avril Lavigne at #1. Don't think there are any Canadian women in this show, the AT40 from 2/8/92. 2 of the 4 debuts are covers of 60s hits and I prefer Salt 'n Pepa's remake of the Turtles' "You Showed Me" over Paul Young's remake of Jimmy Ruffiin's "What Becomes of the Broken Hearted". The chart performance of Mint Condition on AT40 and CT40 is a good example of how their various charts were different. For 'Breakin' My Heart", a great song in this show, it peaked at #6 on AT40 and #10 on CT40 whereas for their other hit "U Send Me Swingin'" in 1994, it only made it onto CT40 but not AT40. By switching to the Mainstream top 40 chart for 1993-95, AT40 shut out some R&B hits after those hits got a boost in 1992 from the Hot 100 Airplay chart. Btw, I think the only Joel Whitburn book that lists the peaks of AT40 hits in 1992 is the through 1993 Pop Singles book since it lists the Hot 100 airplay peaks. I have 2 later such books that don't list those peaks. But I do not have a book that lists the peaks of the Mainstream chart used for 1993-95. Shadoe mentions how there were 2 hits along the same theme as "Black or White" that also hit #1. In 1982 was "Ebony and Ivory" and in 1972 was "Black and White". MJ hit #1 at the end of 1991 and stayed there into 1992 so it is an every 10 year thing apparently. So did it happen again in 2002? No but there is a #1 hit that like "Black or White" hit the top toward the end of the '1' year along this theme. That's "Family Affair".
Onto the 2/16/02 AT40 and the first LDD was "American Pie". In the few seconds from Casey announcing it and the song starting I figured it would be the original and wondered how long the version would be. But it was Madonna's cover. Btw, there are 6 verses in the original but she only sings the second and last verse. Interesting that the line 'teenage broncin' buck' applied to Don McLean. When his version came out, Madonna had just become a teenager, in 1971. Also interesting that after the song following that LDD, Casey said that the #1 song from 30 years ago was "Let's Stay Together". If this LDD had been played a week earlier, "American Pie" would have been #1 30 years earlier. The aforementioned "Family Affair" is at #10. It is an example of 2 rarities, a #1 song with its title not in the lyrics and the name of the parent album in those lyrics. That's No More Drama and the title track was earlier in the countdown. That's 2 out of the last 3 shows that I have heard a #1 song whose title is not in the lyrics. I think there are only 2 or 3 other such songs that Casey counted down with "Annie's Song" from 1974 being one of them. Mary J. performed that song and others at the Super Bowl 2 years ago. Performing in 6 days will be Usher who has "You Got it Bad" at #4.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 6, 2024 11:11:52 GMT -5
Wow, I just heard one of the most riveting stories Casey has ever told. Simon LeBon is an avid sailor and in August 1985, he was sailing in a race from England to Ireland. There were 6 men on the sailboat when it had a rupture and capsized. 4 of the men including Simon were able to grab onto the boat. But the other 2 men were still in their bunks. They soon started screaming for help. Simon and the others tried frantically to get to them and after several minutes, finally found a way to get inside the boat. There was very little air left in the compartment when they got to the men with only minutes maybe only seconds left before those 2 men would have died. But after they were all back to holding onto the boat, the ordeal was still not over. They had to wait a few hours in the freezing water before the British Royal Navy spotted them. They all survived. Btw, that is something if indeed it was freezing water, granted probably a rhetorical term that Casey used. But to have water that is cold in August which would be the warmest water would ever be after a summer of warming is something. This is the 2/25/89 CT40. Casey also told a whatever happened to story about Donny Osmond. Said he had moved from Utah to LA with the intention of getting rid of the wholesome, nice guy image from the 70s. Said that he got his friend Peter Gabriel to assist him in recording his comeback album and had a hit in the UK the previous year with "Soldier of Love". It was 6 weeks later that it debuted on CT40. So this story was told only about 3 weeks before that was released. But no mention by Casey that this was in the offing. Interesting timing there. Robert Palmer gave to Rod Stewart the song "My Heart Can't Tell You No" because as Robert said, 'I don't like to do ballads'.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 7, 2024 16:15:55 GMT -5
The 2/27/93 AT40 has Shadoe saying "The Right Kind of Love" and "Here We Go Again" are great songs. Then a bit of a surprise. Played the Sneek Peek and as a song was starting, he said 'no this is not a new song you are hearing'. It was Faith No More's "Epic" which he played a clip of and said it was 'a body slam in the middle of your head'. Then he said they had this new song that was a drastically new sound. Indeed and it was a cover of the Commodores' "Easy". I had no idea that they ever did this song! Afterward, he said 'now that's a 180 degree turn'. Calling it a ballad though the electric guitar was prevalent so I'll call it a power ballad. It's pretty good IMO. Well it never surfaced on AT40 or any countdown. It reached #58 on the Hot 100 but did not reach the Hot 100 Airplay chart which I think was 75 positions. The Mainstream chart* they were using for AT40 then only had 40 positions. He answered a question about the most hits from a soundtrack in the top 40 at the same time. Answer: 6 from Saturday Night Fever in March 1978. They were the 3 Bee Gees hits, "If I Can't Have You", "Disco Inferno" and "Boogie Shoes". This is a topic AT40 has gone back and forth on. Back in 1978, they did credit those last 2 hits as being from the soundtrack. But then by 1980 and throughout the 80s when they would reference this topic, they would not credit Inferno and Shoes as being from the soundtrack. That was due to them being originally on Trammps and KC & the Sunshine Band albums. But with this answer, they have reversed course again. Another show when Shadoe says that he likes En Vogue, this time listing their names. I think there are more shows with them in the countdown when he does not mention his like for them or their hit. They're good though!
*Shadoe after saying what the #1 songs were on the other charts, said 'back on the mainstream pop chart'. I think you can count the number of times he referred to either the Hot 100 Airplay chart or the Mainstream top 40 chart when those charts were used from Dec. 1991 to 1995 on one hand, maybe on your thumbs.
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Post by dukelightning on Feb 9, 2024 14:43:57 GMT -5
Got a busy weekend on tap so I have cranked up my Usher tribute show getting ready for his Super Bowl performance. Have not heard any of his hits yet on this 6/12/04 AT40. The song that was #1 on Ryan's first show as regular host from 5 months earlier in still in the countdown and that's "Hey Ya" as is the second one also by OutKast, "The Way You Move". Funny new feature of the show was when Ryan had 8 year old Ally come on the show and call this record store trying to figure out what a song was called using a line from the song. She asked this guy that answered the phone what song is 'everybody in the club get tipsy'? He didn't know. Then she asked him was is tipsy to which he answered it is getting drunk, intoxicated. She said that sounded like fun. He didn't know but I knew it was "Tipsy" by J-Kwon.* Then she tried another one and said what song is 'My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard'? He knew it was "Milkshake" by Kelis, so did I. Then she asked what a milkshake was. Well, he said it was a drink with milk and ice cream. She then asked if he wanted her to bring a milkshake to him. All of that got a great laugh out of yours truly. Hey this is better than all those LDDs Casey used to play. The innocence of a young girl delving into adult subjects is amusing. As for Usher, his 2 hits are back to back in the top 10.
*#9 this week
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