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Post by woolebull on Dec 18, 2023 19:48:45 GMT -5
I am guessing one of those 1991 hits that Casey never announced which Shadoe did that you did not overlook is 'You Can't Play With My Yo-Yo" by Yo-Yo. Another hit that has the artist name in the song title. Heard that on the 7/6/91 AT40 with Shadoe also naming Ice Cube who sang on the song but did not get label credit. For the LDDs in this show, there is one by Mariah and "I'll Be There" in it but instead of being the same song, that represents back to back songs. "I Don't Wanna Cry" is a countdown LDD and the Escape Club's "I'll Be There" is next. The latter was a LDD/R&D a few times in the next year before Mariah's song of that title became a frequent LDD/R&D. Speaking of frequent LDD/R&Ds, "Faithfully" is an example. There was a LDD from their Frontiers Lp, however it was not that but my fave hit from that album, "Separate Ways". Hit #8 as Shadoe said but became the third of their 3 #1 hits on R&R, none of which hit the top on the Hot 100 of course. And in another example of a future hit being mentioned on a show, Shadoe says that Paula Abdul is single, cute and unattached before playing "Rush Rush" at #1. He says that there is a song called "Will You Marry Me" on her album. She insisted that a song be put on the album about a gal asking a guy to marry him. Record executives thought it as corny idea. That will be the 5th release from it. Wild to believe Yo-Yo was the second female solo rapper to have an AT 40 hit. Monie Love broke the ceiling just a couple of months before that. Also, Ice Cube should have been given a feature on "Yo-Yo". I mean, he literally is the only one who raps the title during the song!
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 18, 2023 19:58:33 GMT -5
You're good to know that woolebull about Yo-Yo. She is not the only second female artist to me mentioned by Shadoe in that show. Candy Dulfer was the second ever woman to be part of an instrumental with the first happening 40 years earlier. "Lily Was Here" being the instrumental in 1991.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 19, 2023 12:19:29 GMT -5
The 9/26/92 AT40 has the highest 2 debuts being by artists whose names start with lower case letters...del Amitri and k.d. lang. One of the droppers is Mariah's "I'll Be There". The lower case letters factoid was courtesy of Shadoe and Rob Durkee. This next factoid is courtesy of yours truly. Mariah had a #1 song in the countdown on both AT40 and CT40 the last week of August and the first 3 weeks of September in 1990, 91, 92 and 93. The only other artist to do that in the 20th century was Paul McCartney. He had a #1 song in the countdown in every week of June and July in 1973, 74, 75 and 76(regular shows only). Both had 4 year streaks but Paul's covered about twice as many weeks. Marcy Levy is half of Shakespeare's Sister and Shadoe played clips of the 2 hits that she was a part of previously. First she sang backup on "Lay Down Sally". Yep that female voice that those of us who have heard that song dozens of times is hers. Then he played a clip of "Help Me" which was her duet with Robin Gibb. It reached #50 in 1980. Remember seeing that on the chart but I don't think I had ever heard any of it until just now. 'You can just sit down and listen to the whole Funky Divas cd, every song is great'. That's the umpteenth Shadoe comment on these shows touting En Vogue. Not a problem however. 'Jon Secada's first hit holds at #3 for a 5th week. I don't know if that's a record or not. I'll check with Dr. Durkee'. Should have checked with me. It's not a record. "Stop Dragging My Heart Around" spent 6 weeks at #3 in 1981. Then after the song, he said he had checked with Rob Durkee and would get back to it after playing "Baby Baby Baby" which was at #2 for a 6th week, after hitting #1. With "End of the Road" staying at #1 for a 6th week, it is the first time that the top 3 have been the same for 5 weeks in a decade. Secada would stay at #3 for a 6th week before dropping to tie the Nicks and Petty hit for that record.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 19, 2023 19:20:20 GMT -5
Mark Elliott is guest hosting the 10/27/90 CT40. Only one song I was not familiar with and it was "My Love is a Fire". Last hit for Donny Osmond with Mark saying he was 32 with his 12th top 40 hit. Wondered if Mark tripped up there because Donny is one of those hybrid artists whose chart career started before R&R began and ended here in 1990. But he was right. Donny had 9 top 40 hits pre-October 1973 and the 3 hits he had in 1989 and 90 are his only R&R chart hits. (He did have Hot 100 top 40 hits in the mid 70s but none of those reached the R&R chart so a bit shortchanged there but correctly). Even with those top 40 hits on the Hot 100, Donny is a rare artist to have hit the top 40 in his or her teens and 30s but not in his or her 20s as a solo artist(did have a couple duets with sister Marie in his 20s). New Kids had dolls made in their image with one of them having jeans ripped at the knees. Didn't realize that style of jeans started that far back. Thought it was a 21st century or at least later in the 90s thing. Then he played David Cassidy and said a writer had dubbed him the original new kid on the block. Donny Osmond and David Cassidy with hits in a 1990 countdown. How many people thought that would happen?! Wow the Four Tops almost had a hit in the 90s after they had one hit in the 80s. Phil Collins wrote "Something Happened on the Way to Heaven" for them originally before keeping it for himself. 2 unusual tidbits about "Praying for Time". It was played as last week's #1 hit. I think you can count on one hand maybe two the number of times in CT40/AT40 2.0 history that the previous week's #1 hit was played. It dropped to #7. Again I think you can count on one hand the number of times in CT40/AT40 2.0 history that a #1 hit dropped at least that far.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Dec 19, 2023 23:53:29 GMT -5
Re: "My Love Is A Fire" - it was written by Carl Sturken and Evan Rogers, who would later form Rythm Syndicate, and they would have two top ten hits the following year, 1991 - "P.A.S.S.I.O.N." and "Hey Donna". Like Stock Aitken Waterman, I felt their sound was very distinct, and I really enjoyed their work on Donny's last top 40 hit. I recently listened to CT40 from 12/15/1990, and it was still in the 40 that week.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 20, 2023 18:29:52 GMT -5
Yeah there was a rap in "My Love is a Fire" that showed how Donny was really trying to be relevant. Just heard a clip of "Positively 4th Street" on the 10/5/96 CT40. That's Bob Dylan singing about a street in New York's Greenwich Village. His son Jacob is singing about a street that intersects 4th street in his song "6th Avenue Heartache". Cool move there tying in with a signature hit for his Dad. Does anyone remember the ValuJet flight 592 that crashed in the Florida Everglades? I do. In fact, I used to work with a guy who lived in that area then who saw the wreckage. Happened earlier in 1996 and the first R&D was by a guy who had lost his little sister in that crash. Only one debut in this show and it's Phil Collins at #40. Just as with their 1999 hit "Special", Garbage and Shirley Manson who sounds a lot like Sheryl Crow are in the countdown at the same time as the latter. "Stupid Girl" in this case, good song. You know Jim Steinman came quite close to pulling off this odd double...producing a top 2 hit and the longest hit for every artist he produced. Air Supply, Bonnie Tyler, Meatloaf and Celine Dion(It's All Coming Back to Me Now" in this show) all hit the top 2 with Steinman produced hits but Barry Manilow did not. Not sure how close he came to producing each artist's longest hit; however all but Manilow who had a long one not produced by him "Could It Be Magic" had really long Steinman hits. And right on cue, one of the Casey's Biggest Hits tracks was "Total Eclipse of the Heart". Length: 7:31, next longest of those tracks was 6:51. Of course those times include the tease and the commercial so the song is not that long.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 21, 2023 10:23:11 GMT -5
Show from the year I mentioned in the Same Auld Lang Syne thread, the 3/24/01 AT40 guest hosted by Ed McMann. One of the debuts is "Baby Come on Over" which after hearing it, I played the YouTube version because I prefer the version released a few weeks later which was played later in its chart run. But one of the comments is this...It's like the last breath of the chessy-happy-fun late 90s. That ties into why I mentioned 2001 in that thread. By the way, after this song in the countdown, Ed said the next song was by the only teenage solo artist in it. Talking about Tonya Mitchell except that Samantha Mumba and her were both 18 then! Here we are at the time of year when songs mention the birth of Jesus. But this show may have the only hit to have lyrics referencing his resurrection. R. Kelly sings 'I will be in church on Easter' in "I Wish". Cool story about Daft Punk. They were originally known as Darling in the 90s. When a critic heard them one time, he didn't like their sound and quipped, 'that's daft punk!'. The guys thought that they needed a name that conveyed a rougher image than Darling and so changed to Daft Punk on their next release "Da Punk". That bubbled under the Hot 100 by the way and 7 of their 10 hits listed in the 1990-2022 Pop book bubbled under. "One More Time" their hit in this show peaked at 61 as did their previous hit and "Get Lucky" is their only other Hot 100 hit (#2 in 2013). Time and Lucky are also their only AT40 hits making them a rare artist that has exactly one hit in each completed decade of this century. Joe falls out of the #1 spot with his only Hot 100 chart topper "Stutter" this week but "I Wanna Know" is his biggest AT40 hit. He is another artist with a rare chart feat. His 5 top 40 hits on the Hot 100 are all movie songs. My fave song that he sings on is "Still Not a Player" where he is a featured artist for Big Punisher. That is not a movie hit but Darkchild Rodney Jerkins produced it. "Around the World" is another one of those late 90s type hits. With Ed saying ATC's cd is titled Pop Planet, it is an apt name as the late 90s and first year plus of the 2000s could be identified as the pop between the alternative heavy mid 90s and hip-hop dominated 2000s starting later in 2001. I heard the AT40 with back to back hits titled "Hold On" recently. This show almost has back to back songs titled "Butterfly". But it's even more than that. The writer of the LDD mentioned a few songs like S Clus 7's "Never Had a Dream Come True" which was played earlier and K-CI & JoJo's "Crazy". She requested Mariah's "Butterfly". Then the next song was the aforementioned "Crazy" at #5. The song after that was Crazy Town's "Butterfly". So the next 2 songs played after the LDD were either mentioned in the LDD writeup or in the title of the LDD itself. Wow!
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 29, 2023 18:32:46 GMT -5
Back after my Christmas break and it's the first regular show of the 2000s that Casey did, the AT40 from 1/15/00. Starts off with a tune I had never heard, "Auld Lang Syne" by Kenny G. With him supplying the bed, it is a series of sound clips from the 30s through the 90s mostly in the political vein(most of the presidents since FDR in the 20th century were heard from) but also with social issues(MLK in the 60s) and sports references. Starts with FDR's famous line 'The only thing we have to fear is fear itself' which came from his 1933 inaugural address. Finishes with a newscaster commenting about the Columbine shooting in 1999. This is its only week in the countdown. The chart for this show covers the week from Christmas to New Years so it's not surprising that it fell out the next week. Vertical Horizon are already slowing down in their ascent up the chart, up a notch to #33. Don't think I heard "Everything You Want" on the radio until March. Some interesting threads and posts about alternate #1 hits of the year. Everything would certainly not have been the #1 hit of 2000 had AT40 been tallying the year end chart as they did in the 70s and 80s when they used the weekly charts and credited a hit for its entire chart run. In that case, it would have been "Smooth" by a mile. That is one of those rare hits with a long stint at #1 and a long chart run. If all that happened, "Smooth" which fell out of #1 after 9 weeks this week, would have tied "Tonight's the Night" for the earliest a #1 song of the year hit the top. Both did so on 11/13 ironically. Tonight's was Billboard's but not AT40's #1 song of 1977. Casey says Blink 182 are from the city that is home to the Padres, Chargers and the Gulls. That's San Diego and I had to look up who the Gulls were. They were a minor league hockey team. Don't remember Casey ever mentioning a minor league team. He probably did since there were only 2 major league teams there, one nowadays. Can't think of too many artists from San Diego. Stephen Bishop in the 70s and 80s, Jewel who moved there from Alaska and my fave act from there, STP, though Jewel is a close second. A mistake in the Casey's Biggest hits tracks? Why yes! After playing "Everywhere" and correctly saying it was from 12 years ago, the next track had Casey saying that "Dude Looks Like a Lady" was from 13 years ago. Except it wasn't, also being from 12 years ago! Those hits were 2 notches apart on the 1/16/88 show. This is a show with the highest 2 debuts over 20 notches apart. "Sexual" at 37 and "Show Me the Meaning of Being Lonely" at 16. Prefer the former by a lot! That 21 notch difference between the highest 2 debuts is within shouting distance of what I think is record. That would be 27 notches between "Upside Down" at 10 and "One in a Million You" at 37 in 1980. Casey mentioned Diana as being an idol of Mariah. Great story about Rodney Jerkins. Casey said 'When it comes to who knows what is at the top of musical taste, Rodney Jerkins is the one who knows'. Said that he had recorded a demo that netted him studio time with a top producer when he was only 14. Rattled off the many artists he has produced. MJ tabbed Jerkins to produce his next album Invincible. Then J Lo's "Waiting for Tonight" was played because Jerkins produced songs on her On the 6 cd, though not that one. "If You Had My Love" is one of those songs and that's in contention for my fave song produced by him.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Dec 31, 2023 13:25:45 GMT -5
In the car, got AT40 from 4/28/1984. Right before #3, Casey answered a QL about the biggest drop out of #1, which we all know were two back-to-back songs from fall 1974, "Nothing From Nothing", and "Then Came You". The letter had noted "Billie Jean" had dropped to #5 from #1. But the song "Billie Jean" had replaced at the top, fell to #6. That song was "Baby Come To Me".
Everyone, be safe tonight, especially if you're out and about today thru this evening. Happy New Year to all!
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 31, 2023 14:22:42 GMT -5
That would be a good question for Ryan Seacrest to answer for the 21st century. As a point of reference, the biggest drop from #1 this year was "Barbie World' which dropped to #4. I am guessing the number of hits that dropped further this century can be counted on one hand. I am rounding out the year with the 1/19/91 AT40. Shadoe plays a clip of "Do the Bartman" and says the video is everywhere and the song is all over the radio. So why is it not on AT40 he asks in the tease. He answers it by saying that the Hot 100 chart is based on airplay and sales. To be eligible, it must be commercially available as a single. He then plays clips of the Beatles' "Michelle", "Stairway to Heaven" and "Into the Groove", saying that the latter was only available as a B side to the 12" dance single for "Angel", all examples of well known songs not released as singles. The flashback is to 1976 and at #2 is the hit that takes the biggest drop from #1 since that rash of big drops in 1974. "Theme from Mahogany" fell to #11. The diva of the 70s there and the 5 divas of the 90s are all in this show with a total of 7 songs. Mariah and Whitney each have a pair that all hit #1 as did Madonna and Janet's hits with the latter replacing the former on top and Celine, the latter debuting with her first hit the previous week. Make it 8 songs by those divas including the LDD which was "Vision of Love". Makes this the first time in AT40 history that an artists first 3 hits are in the same regular show. Won't happen again on either AT40 or CT40 until 1995 when Real McCoy has their first 3 hits all in the countdown. Great medley of all the top 5 hits produced by Arif Martin. Aretha Franklin's 3 top 5 hits in the 70s, "Pick Up the Pieces", "Jivetalkin'", "You Should Hear How She Talks About You", Phil Collins first 2 movie #1 hits, "I Feel For You" and "Wind Beneath My Wings" and a couple others. Leading into "From a Distance" which will also reach the top 5.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Dec 31, 2023 17:06:18 GMT -5
One of the biggest droppers out of #1 this century would have to be "Lady Marmalade"; it dropped to #8, IIRC.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 1, 2024 15:54:24 GMT -5
Listening to Rick Dees Top 40 Of The 1980s (for the first time; I didn't hear this show originally), and I was reminded as to why I cannot get into his shows the way I can with Casey, Ryan, Shadoe, many others. I'm listening, and almost halfway through the show, Rick is at #26. I'm thinking, okay, something's gotta give, he's way behind. Well, something DID give, all right...in the TOP TEN. Rick had so much extra content throughout the show, he played a piece of #'s 6, 5, 4, and 3. Not quite skipping songs like he's been known for, but darnright close.
For those that listen to countdown shows, be it from your own collection, or streaming, or live radio, is it disheartening when songs are skipped, or a short piece is played, especially when it's a song you like? The only time I don't mind would be a previous week's recap, at the beginning. But not in the show itself.
Why I continue to subject myself to such punishment with Rick's shows...time I'll never get back... 🤦♂️ (Granted, it's been many months since I last listened to one of his shows.)
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 3, 2024 18:31:16 GMT -5
It's been longer than that for me. That's pathetic what happened on that show! I rue football teams for poor clock management. But that is the poorest clock management I have ever heard of in a football game or a countdown! Got the best countdown host though he and the producers certainly can have their share of edited songs. Not so far on the 1/11/92 CT40. Btw, this is the earliest show date in a year for either AT40 1.0, 2.0, 3.0* or CT40 that I have not heard yet. Have already heard my fave song in it and it's "All She Wrote" by Firehouse. The guys rock out on this one. When I heard the 1/4/92 show a few years ago when this debuted. I was pleasantly surprised. Did not realize this made the top 40. Back in 1991 I heard this on rock stations but not on CHR stations. Actually that might only be tied for my fave song in this show. Another one that debuted the previous week may be just as great but it is a polar opposite musically. Talking about "I Can't Make You Love Me" by Bonnie Raitt. That song makes you stop everything you are doing or thinking about, really grips you. Another sports reference when Casey says that 'from Charlotte, home of the Hornets and their sensational rookie Larry Johnson' is Jodeci. Rarely mentioned a specific player but he was a good one though not quite a superstar. First edited song is an odd one. Klymaxx' "I Miss You" was a R&D. It was the album version that they played but then Casey came in well before the cold ending. "Change" by Lisa Stansfield is another great one. Sax is the main instrument, piano in Bonnie Raitt's hit and drums in Firehouse. That's the top 40 variety that most of us on this board crave..kind of goes without saying doesn't it?
*I was thinking about how we classify AT40 1.0, 2.0 etc. Many people simply go with 1.0 and 2.0 with 1.0 being 1970-1995 and 2.0 being 1998 to the present. I like it to be categorized as 1.0 for Casey's first run, 2.0 for the Shadoe years, 3.0 for Casey's second run and 4.0 for Seacrest which of course is about to reach the 20 year anniversary.
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Post by dukelightning on Jan 3, 2024 20:56:08 GMT -5
Jane Child is an excellent example and I know woolebull agrees wholeheartedly with that. Wonder what has happened to him. Here I am! And I think that might be the most accurate sentence ever typed on this board...I wholeheartedly agree that Jane Child was absolutely robbed! However...while I agree with most of the arguments used for why R and R actually was more accurate at that time, I always have found it odd that "Something Happened On The Way To Heaven" went to number one on R and R. It felt closer to a #4 song, where it did peak on the Hot 100. Speaking of R and R v Billboard near that time...I was listening to the CT 12/7/91 show and Casey did something I have never heard on CT...he used Billboard stats! It was part of Casey's Music Quiz and he was talking about the number ones of Roxette. The three choices on the quiz were, "The Look", "It Must've Been Love" and "Joyride". On CT, Joyride never made it to the top. Has anyone else ever noticed Casey using Billboard stats (not counting pre 1973 acts and songs) on CT? Casey did it again in the introduction to "Black or White" at #1. MJ had just been named the King of Pop so he mentioned other royalty artists one of which was Queen. Said that they hit #1 with "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" and "Another One Bites the Dust". They did on AT40 but not in R&R where Dust stopped at #2.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 4, 2024 5:54:20 GMT -5
Listened to Rick's decade-end show for the 1990s (12/25/1999), and it is much better than his 1980s edition. Maybe he learned some lessons from that, I don't know. But, well said, dukelightning, terrible "clock management"...and I can get on teams for that as well. At work this morning, it's CT40 from 7/22/1995, as I continue my 1995 & 1996 marathon. Gonna be a hectic next couple of days as the public scrambles for this latest episode of Snowmageddon. ETA: Speaking of 1996, it was the last year to have the same calendar as 2024. Guess what happened that first weekend in 1996?
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