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Post by Mike on Jun 29, 2020 18:59:35 GMT -5
^ Yeah. Oddly enough, the reverse happened on actually-counted-down AT40s - TLC actually reached the top with "Baby Baby Baby" (Top 40 Radio Monitor was the only Pop chart where that reached #1), while "Weak" was forced to settle for #2 on Top 40 Mainstream. (I think that hit #1 on the Hot 100 and R&R, but neither of the two BB airplay charts.) Don't remember if I mentioned this already, but - one way this has a connection to the 2001 show about to end. "Survivor" did the exact same thing that "Baby Baby Baby" did - went to #1 on the Radio Monitor/Hot 100 Airplay, and no other (official, published) Pop chart. Turns out, so too did another song in the 2001 top five. You get one guess as to which one that is.
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Post by Mike on Jun 29, 2020 19:07:21 GMT -5
And...June 10, 2000 it is. Up next!
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Post by friarboy on Jun 29, 2020 19:42:35 GMT -5
These two shows on WPNC this evening were both heard every week on great radio stations like Wink 104, WNNK, Harrisburg, PA, which I used to listen to on my nearby summer job about a decade before. It's been Wink 104 for 35 years now, that's a lot of continuity these days.
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Post by laura on Jun 29, 2020 19:48:21 GMT -5
Anyone know when the America's Top Hits were structured the one-per-hour way? They're laid out here, just like Premiere extras are now; the last just played with only the Top 2 to go. I know during 1998, there were five of those... From what I have gathered from looking at some of the cue sheets from around that time, the ATHs were supposed to be a daily feature for whatever station would be airing AT40/AT20, with one being played every day. The CHR shows appeared to not have any optional extras at the end of each hour.
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Post by Mike on Jun 29, 2020 20:00:16 GMT -5
Hmmm. That would explain there being 5, but the 2001 show only had 4 - unless one was left out? It's more how it ended up airing here, much like a Premiere show would. Then again, it occurs to me - sometime in 2000, might have even been the same week as the switch to the mystery chart, is when Premiere did in fact assume control of production (where before, it was AM/FM Networks).
Let's see what happens with this 2000 show, where it'd still be AM/FM.
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Post by Mike on Jun 29, 2020 20:06:28 GMT -5
These two shows on WPNC this evening were both heard every week on great radio stations like Wink 104, WNNK, Harrisburg, PA, which I used to listen to on my nearby summer job about a decade before. It's been Wink 104 for 35 years now, that's a lot of continuity these days. Heard in Hour 1 here were "Could I Have This Kiss Forever" and "You Sang to Me", two songs whose R&R fates really surprised me. "Kiss", as a superstar duet, I figured was destined to smash if only for that reason. So when it suddenly peaked quickly and low, I could only think, "...how?" As for "Sang", that went all the way to #2 on the Hot 100, but failed to hit the Top 10 in R&R - a clear example of the distinction between the two. It'd be another year before my exposure to R&R meant actually following that chart instead of by proxy (via the Rick Dees Weekly Top 40, which my CHR aired until sometime a few months after this point), but the Hot 100 I'd begun following the previous summer.
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Post by laura on Jun 29, 2020 20:19:37 GMT -5
Hmmm. That would explain there being 5, but the 2001 show only had 4 - unless one was left out? It's more how it ended up airing here, much like a Premiere show would. Then again, it occurs to me - sometime in 2000, might have even been the same week as the switch to the mystery chart, is when Premiere did in fact assume control of production (where before, it was AM/FM Networks). Let's see what happens with this 2000 show, where it'd still be AM/FM. There were still 5 of them by the time Premiere started producing the show, so one of them was left out, presumably the one for Friday.
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Post by Mike on Jun 29, 2020 20:20:38 GMT -5
Well, in 2000 they were still faithfully following R&R - even if sometimes they didn't get the week right. ("U Can't Touch This" was #1 in the June 8, 1990 issue; for CT40, of course, that would've been the June 16 countdown rather than June 9.)
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Post by Mike on Jun 29, 2020 20:37:29 GMT -5
Other notes:
"Otherside" and "Swear it Again", stepping backward, were both clinging to the two smallest bullets on the entire chart this week. (+17 and +31, respectively.)
"The Real Slim Shady" was a surprise when that surfaced on the Weekly Top 40. I was admittedly a TRL devotee up until sometime in 2001, thus was familiar with his prior singles - though I hadn't really been following the WT40 closely until after "My Name Is", his only prior Pop charter, was done.
Casey mentioned "I Wanna Be With You" was from So Real - but it wasn't. That story is complicated: For whatever reason, Epic essentially repackaged that album, with a handful of new tracks, and released I Wanna Be With You as the result.
More surprise chart results from this year: That "Absolutely (Story of a Girl)" would eventually go all the way to #1! Did not see that one coming.
Since Casey didn't mention the droppers, I'll talk about them. It's almost a pity that this wasn't June 3 instead of June 10, as three of the four droppers here are songs that only lasted one or two weeks in the countdown: "I Am" by Train" (a single week at #40), "I'm Outta Love" by Anastacia, and "Give Me You" by Mary J. Blige (2 weeks on for those two). The fourth, was an R&R recurrent - "Never Let You Go" by Third Eye Blind.
Then again, I do enjoy three of the four debuts we did get by this being June 10, so I guess I can't complain too much? (DMX is okay too, I guess.)
Moving back up two notches to #19 - now that makes more sense. (And then, upon checking, I see that this is its 4th and last week at #19.) At first glance, the surprise was that "Better Off Alone" was up 21-19 despite being down -102 spins. (The two songs right below, by Faith Hill and Kid Rock, lose 500 and change and nearly 1000, respectively.)
Meanwhile, "Broadway" at #18 is the lone bullet in a #21-#14 desert. Actually...#29-#22 is a wall of bullets, and then there's only 9 bullets in the entire Top 20.
"It's Gonna Be Me", in addition to being the week's Biggest Mover, is also unsurprisingly the song with the week's biggest spin gain (the only one to gain four digits). Consequently, "Bye Bye Bye" is also the only one to lose four digits.
More surprises from the Hot 100 Airplay chart: And you might want to sit down for this one - it's a doozy! Turns out that June 10, 2000 was the 7th (and final) week at #1 on that chart for - "Thong Song"!
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jun 30, 2020 9:52:25 GMT -5
Not long after I acquired the shows, I thought the ATHs would make for good extras. These were songs played throughout the week, one song a day Monday through Friday, the week following the airing of the show. They were included on the 4th disc of the show set, right after the promos.
I was listening to AT40 back then Sunday mornings from 8-12 on KDWB, which still carries the show today. Back in the 80s, they aired it on Sunday evenings.
Speaking of 2000, it was the 10/7 show that Premiere took over for AM/FM. And, IIRC, beginning with the 10/21 show through 8/4/2001 (or 8/11?), that AT40 used an unpublished chart.
Anyway, back to the hits...got CT40 from 7/4/1992 playing. Then it'll be AT40 from 7/5/1980, the Book Of Records special. Haven't heard that one yet; looking forward to it.
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Post by Mike on Jun 30, 2020 10:48:30 GMT -5
And, IIRC, beginning with the 10/21 show through 8/4/2001 (or 8/11?), that AT40 used an unpublished chart. 8/11. 8/18 corresponds to the 8/10/2001 R&R, which is the issue where they unrolled the changes to the CHR chart - unmonitored playlists were now sent over to an "Indicator" chart for the smallest markets, and the #20/20 weeks recurrent rule changed to the #25/3 spin loss weeks rule.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jun 30, 2020 11:13:09 GMT -5
The ATHs go back into the WW1 era, which began as Casey's Biggest Hits. The earliest set of CBHs I've seen are sometime in 1990. Unsure of when they actually began, but it's earlier in the CT40 era. The earliest show I have that include them is CT40 from 3/14/1992.
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Post by Mike on Jun 30, 2020 13:01:46 GMT -5
Oh! It really is July 17, 1999. I was fairly convinced it was going to be June 19. (Since we didn't get that - if we had, that show features something interesting. A song called "I Will Remember You" is that week's first LDD - but it's not the one that's in the countdown!) Hmmm...taking a look at the magazine, this was a particularly critical moment in my area. WIOG, which as it turns out had been a Hot AC reporter for some time now, had now returned to the Pop panel - while WTCF, which had been the Saginaw Pop station in their place (and a carrier of AT40, as it also turns out - not that I knew that at the time), would be on their way out, as they were switching to a "Pirate Radio" presentation that was more or less an outright flip to CHR/Rhythmic. In this issue, they're both on the panel. And a look at the fine print at the bottom reveals something else notable: Is it any wonder that Premiere would pick up the show themselves a year later? "Promises" - now that brings back memories to the summer of '99. WIOG gave that pretty good airplay. Hot star who's getting even hotter - between that fact and what the song itself represented, those two things explain the airplay that "La Copa De La Vida" got. Because, of course, it wasn't the "official" follow-up to his song that's fighting to stay #1 here - "She's All I Ever Had" was the official next single. So what was this airplay? Unsolicited, of course. And fact of the matter is, those stations that were on "Copa" were really, REALLY on it - it has far and away the fewest stations playing it on the entire chart this week. How few stations was it? NINE! In contrast, the next fewest in the Top 40 was 66 stations, playing #39 "Can I Get A..." The next fewest on the entire chart was 32 stations, for "Anywhere" by 112, which was #48. And...this is sounding like a different mix for "Blue Monday". That intro and ending were both ones I've never heard before. "Smile" debuts on the entire R&R Top 50 up at #31, the only one of the six to go right in within The 40. Looks like she only barely missed debuting on the previous week's chart, she was just 15 spins shy of #50. And we get the Hex Hector remix for "It's Not Right, But It's Okay". I know both Casey and Rick started out with the original version, a ballad, but of course the remix would take over for good. Of the six droppers, only "Heartbreak Hotel" went recurrent (and actually should have gone the week before, but R&R left her on a week too long). All the others fell to the 40s except for "Millenium", which went right off from #39. Gee...all three of these have given us at least one America's Top Hit that was, indeed, America's Top Hit. 2001 had "Nothing Compares 2 U" (#1 that week in 1990), 2000 had "Livin' La Vida Loca" (#1 that week in 1999, and fighting to stay there here), and this has "Alone" (1987). And how's this for a segue? We go from THE Top Hit in the USA this week back in 1987, to a hit co-written by David Frank. Who is David Frank? One-half of The System. When did they have their one hit again? I forget... By the way, he will have another co-write coming up later in this hour. His writing partner? Steve Kipner. Listed elsewhere on his resume? A little song called, "Physical". Hmmm, wasn't expecting to get the original "That Don't Impress Me Much". I'd have to double-check, but I thought we got the pop mix of that not too long before this show (talking about July 3). Then again, we did also get the original "You're Still the One" for America's Top Hits... And because we can't go without a Hot 100 Airplay story ...the exact same transaction that takes place atop this week's countdown, happens over there as well. The only difference is, Ricky only spent 4 weeks atop that chart.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jul 1, 2020 14:43:03 GMT -5
Yeah, that mix of "Blue Monday" is different. That version was also played on the previous show (7/10), guest-hosted by Ed McMann. (I discovered the dance/trance act Above & Beyond released their remake of "Blue Monday" a couple of months ago; digging it.)
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Post by cstolliver on Jul 2, 2020 9:46:32 GMT -5
Listening on WPNC to the Top 40 acts of the '80s so far -- such a silly idea to run a decade countdown when it's not even a third done.
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