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Post by DJ Particle on Dec 24, 2019 4:38:29 GMT -5
2017: Shape of You - Ed Sheeran (both AT40 and Hot 100) 2018 CHR - “New Rules” by Dua Lipa 2019: Without Me - Halsey
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Post by carlihna on Dec 25, 2019 11:01:23 GMT -5
Thanks. Don't agree with the policy (still think it leads to less and less activity on the board as members gradually drift away), but thank you for the explanation. I hear ya, MGA at In 'N Out Burger, over time the numbers will dwindle. The spam must have been one hell of a nuisance for them to make the decision to prohibit new accounts.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Dec 25, 2019 12:37:16 GMT -5
Thanks. Don't agree with the policy (still think it leads to less and less activity on the board as members gradually drift away), but thank you for the explanation. I hear ya, MGA at In 'N Out Burger, over time the numbers will dwindle. The spam must have been one hell of a nuisance for them to make the decision to prohibit new accounts. As a witness to the occurrence that led to the switch, I can tell you it didn't occur very often. But when it did, it was pretty bad. We'd find current threads on the third page. I don't know of anyone who wants to wade through all that just to get to current topics and threads, and for the mods who have to spend all that time keeping the board cleaned up for us all to enjoy. While decisions like this are difficult, I understand both the mods' POV as well as those on this board. Either way, somebody's not gonna be happy about it. This was really the "lesser of two evils"; that's how I see it, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2019 15:19:14 GMT -5
I made sport of some of the spam. What sucks is no new members allowed when if we had a mod who was around even once a week they could just approve them and keep the spammers out.
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Post by mkarns on Dec 27, 2019 9:58:33 GMT -5
2018 CHR - “New Rules” by Dua Lipa 2019: Without Me - Halsey And 2010-19 decade #1: Shape of You - Ed Sheeran
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Post by Dale Latimer on May 19, 2020 14:51:16 GMT -5
Where did we fully establish the rules for when one or two shows would be offered in a given week?
I'm thinking there were posts in each of the 70s-show and 80s-show threads... could that be added to this one?
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Post by matt on May 19, 2020 17:53:19 GMT -5
Where did we fully establish the rules for when one or two shows would be offered in a given week? I'm thinking there were posts in each of the 70s-show and 80s-show threads... could that be added to this one? dL Alternate shows started in the 70's series in July 2012, around the same time that Premiere started offering all four hours of late '78 and '79 shows. Right away they started airing alternates to 4-hour shows as well as 1970-72 shows. In the almost eight years since that started, Premiere hasn't wavered on which shows get alternates in the 70's series. In the 70's series, the rules seem to be more obvious: 1) 4-hour shows need an alternate for stations that don't want to play 4-hours (and maybe don't want to play songs that late in the 70's), and 2) the early 70's years, which maybe fall outside of certain stations' programming windows. In the 80's series however, alternate shows didn't start until January 2015. For the first two years of alternate 80's shows, only 1983 and '84 got stand-alone treatment. Starting in January 2018, 1985 and '86 were added to the stand-alone club, 1987 started getting stand-alone treatment at the beginning of 2020, and 1988 was added to stand-alone status at the beginning of 2021 (so now it's down to 1980, '81, and '82 that require an alternate). Now, what is the decision criteria for that? Not sure, but like everything it's likely based on ratings and what would accommodate each stations' programming the best. Then you have some of those stations where it seems like there is no rhyme or reason as to whether they pick the 'A' show or the 'B' each week. EDIT (5/25/23): 3 years since this post, and a few changes to the alternate show years: -In the 80's series, 1988 joined the stand-alone club for 'A' shows starting in 2021, so it's only 1980, '81, and '82 that have alternates. -In the 70's series, 1973, '74, and '75 were added to the years that were given 'B' show alternates starting in 2021.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on May 22, 2020 12:09:03 GMT -5
The facts about alternate shows were added to the main FAQ in the first post.
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Post by mkarns on Feb 19, 2021 18:59:48 GMT -5
Updating the year end AT40 #1's list from 2014 on:
2014: Dark Horse - Katy Perry 2015: Uptown Funk - Mark Ronson/Bruno Mars 2016: Stressed Out - Twenty One Pilots 2017: Shape of You - Ed Sheeran 2018: New Rules - Dua Lipa 2019: Without Me - Halsey 2010s (Decade): Shape of You
2020: Blinding Lights - The Weeknd
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Post by JMW on Feb 19, 2021 22:09:36 GMT -5
Where did we fully establish the rules for when one or two shows would be offered in a given week? I'm thinking there were posts in each of the 70s-show and 80s-show threads... could that be added to this one? dL In the 80's series however, alternate shows didn't start until January 2015. For the first two years of alternate 80's shows, only 1983 and '84 got stand-alone treatment. Starting in January 2018, 1985 and '86 were added to the stand-alone club, at the beginning of 2020, 1987 started getting stand-alone treatment (so now it's down to 1980, '81, '82 and '88 that require an alternate). And now starting with this weekend's show, 1988 shows no longer get a "B" option.
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Post by JMW on Apr 18, 2021 22:14:20 GMT -5
When did Casey stop spoiling at the beginning of the show that there was going to be a new #1? From listening to the 70's shows on the Classic AT40 channel, it seems like it stopped sometime in either 1977 or 1978.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Apr 19, 2021 9:22:52 GMT -5
I believe it started on the very first show of 1978. I'm pretty sure the practice was still happening in 1977, although I'm unsure about the last show or two of 1977.
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Post by DJ Particle on Dec 29, 2021 19:32:06 GMT -5
Updating the year end AT40 #1's list from 2014 on: 2014: Dark Horse - Katy Perry 2015: Uptown Funk - Mark Ronson/Bruno Mars 2016: Stressed Out - Twenty One Pilots 2017: Shape of You - Ed Sheeran 2018: New Rules - Dua Lipa 2019: Without Me - Halsey 2010s (Decade): Shape of You 2020: Blinding Lights - The Weeknd 2021: Levitating - Dua Lipa
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Post by skyseth on Jan 24, 2022 7:46:15 GMT -5
Can someone confirm that i understand well the meaning of AT 40s program numerology as printed on Pete Battistini excellent books :
Program #703-1 ( this is the very first show aired on July 4th, 1970 using Billboard chart of July 11 ) :
70 means , of course, the year 3 means the quarter 1 means the week inside this quarter
It's strange - for me - to see this method by quarter , maybe it's a typical american methodology i'm not familiar with since i live in France.
I have also noted the same methodology used for R.W. Morgan's shows " Special of the Week" also distributed by Watermark.
Thanks for your help.
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Post by Mike on Jan 24, 2022 8:13:35 GMT -5
I did some fast checking, and this numbering system appears to have been a Watermark-ism - it may or may not have been unique to just them, but in any case it's what they chose to use. ABC kept this in place for several years, but beginning with the expansion to CD distribution (7/1/89), they did away with it in favor of a simple "#[week]" - so, 7/1/89 was Show #26, since that was the 26th week of 1989. The clock obviously reset each year.
When Casey revived AT40, he/AMFM used "#[year]-[week]". The first show back didn't have a number, but the second (4/4/98) was numbered #98-14. Premiere kept this in place when they assumed production of the show in 2000, as well as when Ryan Seacrest became permanent host. (For a few weeks in December 2004 when Ryan's full-length Hot AC show began, shows were also distinguished by format - CHR for Pop, and I'm assuming HAC for Hot AC [I'm assuming as no Hot AC cue sheets are available prior to the last week of 2006], before just reverting to the original, with Hot AC shows having the format listed on the sheet, much as what was done with Casey's shows [Casey's Adult shows had the format printed in the upper left corner of the show's logo].) This is still to this day the numbering system that is used.
I'm also guessing that available cue sheets beginning with 11/19/2016 all come from international affiliates? Beginning that week, they read "#[year]-[week] INTERNATIONAL" - sheets are available through 2/10/2018.
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