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Post by woolebull on Nov 16, 2013 13:53:08 GMT -5
Here is a thread where all of those who get annoyed with edits on the show can now express their displeasure here  Have fun! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 14:32:01 GMT -5
Do annoyances of replaying the same part of songs repeatedly go here also?
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Post by jdelachjr2002 on Nov 16, 2013 14:56:31 GMT -5
Do annoyances of replaying the same part of songs repeatedly go here also? Which comes to mind. I've been listening to all Shadoe Stevens AT40 episodes in chronological order (I'm at 10/5/1991 as I type) and I could swear when listening to Amy Grant's "Every Heartbeat" I heard the second verse twice a few times. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 15:13:14 GMT -5
Hope you enjoy that extended dance remix version they created. You'll hear it again when you reach the show dated 12/28/91.
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Post by mkarns on Nov 16, 2013 15:30:20 GMT -5
During the Shadoe era, they would often engage in "looping", or repeating opening riffs many more times than in the record, to give him a "music bed" to talk over. That seems stupid to me; Casey did just fine without such gimmicks.
And extra repeating of verses and choruses, assuming it's done artifically and isn't part of the original recording, is also bad; if they needed to fill time, then play some album versions instead of single edits, or perhaps add some longer stories or extend the delivery of stories to add extra drama. Shadoe in particular had a voice well suited to "theater of the mind" type presentations, and would have done more of them if the AT40 brass would have let him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 16:01:56 GMT -5
The maddening things when it came to this practice were they edited his pauses out so presumably he talked in shorter lengths than had they let him speak naturally. This would have created LESS time songs played and less times looping was needed. They would also edit out verses and parts of songs in the same hours they'd loop others. So why do you edit for time only to fill time with verses played additional times with others.
In Robs book, it says they only had space digitally to store one version of each song. So, they couldn't play album versions, dance remix versions, or anything like that thus the practice of playing parts of songs multiple times came to be.
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Post by woolebull on Nov 16, 2013 16:03:12 GMT -5
Do annoyances of replaying the same part of songs repeatedly go here also? Which comes to mind. I've been listening to all Shadoe Stevens AT40 episodes in chronological order (I'm at 10/5/1991 as I type) and I could swear when listening to Amy Grant's "Every Heartbeat" I heard the second verse twice a few times. You're also going to hear the beginning of "Mysterious Ways" like 100 times in a row on one of these weeks. What you won't hear, however, is more than 60 seconds of "Mind Playing Tricks On Me"  |
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Post by woolebull on Nov 16, 2013 16:07:10 GMT -5
During the Shadoe era, they would often engage in "looping", or repeating opening riffs many more times than in the record, to give him a "music bed" to talk over. That seems stupid to me; Casey did just fine without such gimmicks. And extra repeating of verses and choruses, assuming it's done artifically and isn't part of the original recording, is also bad; if they needed to fill time, then play some album versions instead of single edits, or perhaps add some longer stories or extend the delivery of stories to add extra drama. Shadoe in particular had a voice well suited to "theater of the mind" type presentations, and would have done more of them if the AT40 brass would have let him. What was funny is that it happened on CT as well. When "One Week" was number one they looped the second verse at least twice in one of its weeks. I don't know when technology changed, but I would assume by 1998 they would have been able to do something else besides looping the song. I found it funny that Shadoe's show gets blasted for it but CT has always slid for the same practice. |
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Post by woolebull on Nov 16, 2013 16:08:23 GMT -5
^ awesome. You are creating your own version of message board looping. This is going to be an "all loop, all the time" thread |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 16:55:37 GMT -5
During the Shadoe era, they would often engage in "looping", or repeating opening riffs many more times than in the record, to give him a "music bed" to talk over. That seems stupid to me; Casey did just fine without such gimmicks. And extra repeating of verses and choruses, assuming it's done artifically and isn't part of the original recording, is also bad; if they needed to fill time, then play some album versions instead of single edits, or perhaps add some longer stories or extend the delivery of stories to add extra drama. Shadoe in particular had a voice well suited to "theater of the mind" type presentations, and would have done more of them if the AT40 brass would have let him. What was funny is that it happened on CT as well. When "One Week" was number one they looped the second verse at least twice in one of its weeks. I don't know when technology changed, but I would assume by 1998 they would have been able to do something else besides looping the song. I found it funny that Shadoe's show gets blasted for it but CT has always slid for the same practice. One Week was in AT40 version 2. CT40 ceased to exist in March 98. |
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Nov 16, 2013 18:16:38 GMT -5
1991 on AT40 was a bad year for songs being looped. I noted several instances of it that year alone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2013 18:21:20 GMT -5
1991 on AT40 was a bad year for songs being looped. I noted several instances of it that year alone. And meanwhile songs like "Wind of Change" and "OPP" were constantly edited. Or was the way AT40 aired "Winds..." the radio edit of the song? |
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Post by oaklandmike on Nov 16, 2013 19:43:40 GMT -5
Here is a thread where all of those who get annoyed with edits on the show can now express their displeasure here Have fun! Hey Woolebull , who is the singer on your profile pic , I was his minder when he came down to Australia for a promo tour back in 1991 . He looked like jon bon jovi but sounded more like the Thompson twins. great guy to work for though. He's a Canadian , Kevin? Rory ? man that pic brings back memories |
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Post by woolebull on Nov 16, 2013 21:43:55 GMT -5
1991 on AT40 was a bad year for songs being looped. I noted several instances of it that year alone. And meanwhile songs like "Wind of Change" and "OPP" were constantly edited. Or was the way AT40 aired "Winds..." the radio edit of the song? I don't remember "Winds" being edited any different than the radio, but definitely "OPP". One of my least favorite loops from '91 was "Here We Go, Let's Rock-N-Roll". Killed the song for me. |
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Post by woolebull on Nov 16, 2013 21:45:37 GMT -5
What was funny is that it happened on CT as well. When "One Week" was number one they looped the second verse at least twice in one of its weeks. I don't know when technology changed, but I would assume by 1998 they would have been able to do something else besides looping the song. I found it funny that Shadoe's show gets blasted for it but CT has always slid for the same practice. One Week was in AT40 version 2. CT40 ceased to exist in March 98. My b. Still, the production crew was more in line with the CT show than the AT1 show, wasn't it? I honestly don't know the answer. |
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