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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 10:53:43 GMT -5
This week. It was thinking back that I realized though it had happened a few other times but how many I don't know.
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Post by BrettVW on Nov 20, 2013 12:42:11 GMT -5
I mentioned this to Paul, and we both agreed that AT 40 from 1988 to 1991 was a better product than CT 40. I agree with you, adam31, that looping was part of the beginning of the end. I would agree with this statement. While I always preferred Casey over Shadoe, AT40 was the better product. I always felt CT40 and AT40 2.0 were extremely cookie cutter and kind of dry, with too many LDD's all from inmates and high school students. I notice this more now if I listen to a show from the 90s through 2003. However, I also feel that the final years of Casey shows, lets say mid 2004-2009, the quality of the shows improved quite a bit. The LDD's dropped to 1 or 2 per show. some old features like the Book of Records returned, and Casey's script didn't sound as robotic as it had in the past.
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Post by woolebull on Nov 21, 2013 21:18:40 GMT -5
I mentioned this to Paul, and we both agreed that AT 40 from 1988 to 1991 was a better product than CT 40. I agree with you, adam31, that looping was part of the beginning of the end. I would agree with this statement. While I always preferred Casey over Shadoe, AT40 was the better product. I always felt CT40 and AT40 2.0 were extremely cookie cutter and kind of dry, with too many LDD's all from inmates and high school students. I notice this more now if I listen to a show from the 90s through 2003. However, I also feel that the final years of Casey shows, lets say mid 2004-2009, the quality of the shows improved quite a bit. The LDD's dropped to 1 or 2 per show. some old features like the Book of Records returned, and Casey's script didn't sound as robotic as it had in the past. If I had to pick shows I like to listen to because of the quality through the 1990's I would select 1) AT 40 through 1991 2) Dees 3)CT and AT 2.0 4) AT 92-95. One of my least favorite part of the CT/AT shows was how we had a new story every week for the number one song. That means for three months in 1996 you learned more about Donna Lewis than she probably knew about herself.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2013 21:43:39 GMT -5
I do not understand why CT40/AT40 v2 didn't do #1s on the other charts prior to #1 a lot of weeks as AT40 did. Seems like a painless approach to keep from story after story after story of the same act.
I heard this approach once in the new AT40 era, it was in 2003 when IIRC "Miss Independent" was #1. But honestly the way it was done, it felt forced and more of a "story" production than just the way it had been done in the past, I guess that is the difference in AT40 ver 1 compared to CT40/AT40 v2. The original felt like the host was looking and processing the entire chart from the beginning of the show to the end, and it was a chart show. CT40/AT40 v2 feels like a countdown radio production that needs to fill 4 hours. Very cookie cutter, never changing from the format ever.
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Post by adam31 on Nov 22, 2013 2:54:03 GMT -5
A big factor for me in the later AT40/CT40 era was lack of chart questions. That was always a standby to the older shows and a base to the entire AT40 concept and it makes the later shows less interesting and more canned. The time seemed to filled with more of this feature story fluff.
I guess the reason Shadoe didnt' answer as many was the Billboard change after 1991. Why call attention to the discontinuity of different charts? And of course, Casey's Top 40 and later AT40 after 1998 had a real identity crisis with the charts.
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Post by davewollenberg on Nov 22, 2013 18:03:29 GMT -5
2nd verse of 'Say it isn't so' was edited out.
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Post by mstgator on Nov 23, 2013 14:47:24 GMT -5
Which comes to mind. I've been listening to all Shadoe Stevens AT40 episodes in chronological order (I'm at 10/5/1991 as I type) and I could swear when listening to Amy Grant's "Every Heartbeat" I heard the second verse twice a few times. You're also going to hear the beginning of "Mysterious Ways" like 100 times in a row on one of these weeks. What you won't hear, however, is more than 60 seconds of "Mind Playing Tricks On Me" I'd have to go back and check, but I think "Mind Playing Tricks On Me" was played in full during one week (possibly the week it debuted). Other than that one instance, it was chopped down. Kind of similar to "The Humpty Dance", which was played in full for one week (up in the teens), and edited for the rest of its run. The two instances of looping that I recall being especially annoying were with D amn Yankees' "High Enough" (which looped two lines and a guitar lick near the end of the song at least five or six times), and Another Bad Creation's "Playground" (which looped one of the kids' verses at least three times).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 18:27:42 GMT -5
I remember High Enough's very well.
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Post by davewollenberg on Nov 29, 2013 16:54:44 GMT -5
Toto's 'Stranger in town' had a backward edit, with the phrase 'son of a b*tch is mean.'
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Post by woolebull on Nov 29, 2013 17:28:16 GMT -5
Toto's 'Stranger in town' had a backward edit, with the phrase 'son of a b*tch is mean.' Do you mean on the Premiere show or the original? I don't remember it being edited on the originals. That doesn't mean that it didn't happen. In fact, I would be very surprised if Premiere in 2013 would take the time to do that for the song.
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Post by davewollenberg on Nov 29, 2013 20:08:39 GMT -5
I heard the backward edit on the Premiere show, broadcast today by WWIS, Black River Falls, WI.
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Post by woolebull on Nov 30, 2013 0:11:00 GMT -5
I heard the backward edit on the Premiere show, broadcast today by WWIS, Black River Falls, WI. It was Premiere's doing. The song was not edited on the 12-1-84 show.
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Post by davewollenberg on Nov 30, 2013 7:34:00 GMT -5
Thanx, Wool.
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Post by davewollenberg on Dec 1, 2013 18:57:57 GMT -5
I believe 'Cool it now' by New Edition was also looped.
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Post by davewollenberg on Dec 1, 2013 20:05:17 GMT -5
'I just called' by Stevie Wonder was noticeably edited. The year's verses weren't finished. Was it Premiere's hatchet job?
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