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Post by artsmusic on Sept 17, 2021 12:21:18 GMT -5
Whitney Houston's "My Name is Not Susan" had a slightly different mix played - harder to spot unless you compare the two directly. Album version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBlucfg46EAAT40 version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz4mrWZ-CX4"Susan" had a Power Radio Mix done, both with a rap from Monie Love and without. AT40, obviously, played the one without. It's probably the only version of "Susan" that they played - I have 8/10, 8/17, and 9/7/91, and it's in all three. Side note, this was absolutely the WORST testing Whitney song when I was in urban radio. There was SO much pressure to maintain momentum for her, and the label threw everything at the wall remixing this way and that to prop the song up. One of the BEST things about the change to actual monitored radio charts. |
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Post by Mike on Sept 17, 2021 14:35:43 GMT -5
Side note, this was absolutely the WORST testing Whitney song when I was in urban radio. There was SO much pressure to maintain momentum for her, and the label threw everything at the wall remixing this way and that to prop the song up. One of the BEST things about the change to actual monitored radio charts. "Susan" would only reach #33 on the Top 40 Radio Monitor (a couple of months before it became the chart of use for AT40) - though as it happens, the preceding single "Miracle" only reached #36 there. |
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Sept 17, 2021 15:24:30 GMT -5
Two different, if a bit similar, versions of Lisa Stansfield's "This is the Right Time" that I can determine. FOOTNOTE FOR 10/13: The intro that plays underneath is definitely from the Rhythm Mix; Shadoe reads station mentions and gives his intro for the song over it - but, right after he finishes, there's a bit of a jump, like it changes from one mix to another. I'd wonder if someone else did that before I got this copy - but if so, then whoever did it was very conscious of time, as this is in the last segment of Hour 2 that week, which runs 13:24, and my copy has that segment at that length as well. I do sincerely doubt that it ever just used a carefully edited Rhythm Mix this week, as upon listening to it, that wouldn't have timed out correctly. I have the remastered version of that show, and it sounds exactly as you describe it. |
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Post by Mike on Sept 18, 2021 12:47:48 GMT -5
9/4/99: Not an "odd version" per se, rather a version that I doubt was ever used during its original 1983 run - Prince's "1999" is an extra that week, and they play the album version of the song. That runs 6:22, though guest host Ed McMann cuts in with about a minute of that left.
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Post by Hervard on Sept 18, 2021 14:58:41 GMT -5
Side note, this was absolutely the WORST testing Whitney song when I was in urban radio. There was SO much pressure to maintain momentum for her, and the label threw everything at the wall remixing this way and that to prop the song up. One of the BEST things about the change to actual monitored radio charts. "Susan" would only reach #33 on the Top 40 Radio Monitor (a couple of months before it became the chart of use for AT40) - though as it happens, the preceding single "Miracle" only reached #36 there. Wow - quite a difference from its peak on the R&R chart, though even there, it was Houston's first hit to miss the Top Ten. Due to the heavy subject matter of the song, though, radio stations didn't play it very much but, since it was Whitney Houston, a big name in Top 40 music, radio stations that still figured out their station playlists the old-fashioned way placed her high up on their lists because of that, though the chart positions did not reflect the song's airplay. |
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Post by Mike on Sept 18, 2021 16:19:27 GMT -5
Wow - quite a difference from its peak on the R&R chart, though even there, it was Houston's first hit to miss the Top Ten. Due to the heavy subject matter of the song, though, radio stations didn't play it very much but, since it was Whitney Houston, a big name in Top 40 music, radio stations that still figured out their station playlists the old-fashioned way placed her high up on their lists because of that, though the chart positions did not reflect the song's airplay. To start with a slightly more apples-to-apples comparison, on the week "Miracle" peaked on the Radio Monitor, it was also up to #15 on the still-officially-designated "Hot 100 Airplay" chart. (Of note: The week was 5/25/91, the next-to-last week that the "official" airplay chart - I.E. the one still compiled using playlists - would be printed in the magazine.) On that week, the Monitor consisted of a station panel of 118 stations whose airplay was being monitored - in contrast, the number of stations reporting to the Hot 100 through the still-official written-report computation method was nearly double that, at 233. Using the same comparable R&R (in this case the week of 5/17, since that chart would be what was used for the 5/25 R&R-based countdowns), the total station panel size was 248 stations among three station weight sizes. (54 large-market, or P1, stations, 120 secondary-market/P2 stations, and 74 small-market/P3 stations.) But despite the monitored station base being half the size of the playlist station base, I doubt that more monitored stations would have made much difference, not unless smaller-market stations really were playing it that much more. Here's why. Preface: One other valuable tool from this time is R&R's breakdown of CHR airplay. They had the wherewithal to break down composite airplay by each of the three airplay tiers (P1, P2, P3) and printed separate charts for each one. On the large-market P1 chart, "Miracle" peaked at #15. On the secondary-market P2 chart, she peaked at #11. On the small-market P3 chart, she peaked at #10. So unless stations on the smaller two tiers were actually playing the song closer to the levels that their playlists would have indicated, I'd say more monitored stations would probably have resulted in the song peaking maybe just a few notches higher at best on the Radio Monitor. Why the smaller two? The monitored stations at this point would most likely have all been stations that, for playlist reporting purposes, would have fallen into P1 and P2 tiers in R&R. |
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Post by dth1971 on Sept 18, 2021 18:05:37 GMT -5
"Susan" would only reach #33 on the Top 40 Radio Monitor (a couple of months before it became the chart of use for AT40) - though as it happens, the preceding single "Miracle" only reached #36 there. Wow - quite a difference from its peak on the R&R chart, though even there, it was Houston's first hit to miss the Top Ten. Due to the heavy subject matter of the song, though, radio stations didn't play it very much but, since it was Whitney Houston, a big name in Top 40 music, radio stations that still figured out their station playlists the old-fashioned way placed her high up on their lists because of that, though the chart positions did not reflect the song's airplay. Whitney's "My Name is Not Susan" reached #20 on the Billboard Hot 100 Shadoe Stevens AT40 was still using (for its last months) at the time. |
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Post by MrGeno502 on Sept 19, 2021 23:57:17 GMT -5
On this week's 1985 show Dare Me by The Pointer Sisters was a version I've never heard. Maybe it's the album version? I bought the single in 1985 so I'm used to that version.
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Post by dth1971 on Sept 20, 2021 6:02:27 GMT -5
On this week's 1985 show Dare Me by The Pointer Sisters was a version I've never heard. Maybe it's the album version? I bought the single in 1985 so I'm used to that version. It is the album version also used for the Dare Me music video MTV aired around that time. |
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Post by Mike on Sept 20, 2021 15:49:38 GMT -5
10/24/87, hosted by Charlie Van Dyke - they did in fact play the album version of "Here I Go Again". I neglected to mention it earlier, but much like with "Mercedes Boy" in a 1994 Flashback, 9/7/91 Flashes Back to 9/12/87, where Whitesnake are #4, and the album version gets used for the clip there too. In their case, this may not be the only time that happened - 10/10/92 goes back to 10/10/87, which was their week at #1...unfortunately, I don't have that show, so I can't check it.  |
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Post by Mike on Sept 20, 2021 20:22:12 GMT -5
Whitney Houston's "My Name is Not Susan" had a slightly different mix played - harder to spot unless you compare the two directly. Album version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBlucfg46EAAT40 version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz4mrWZ-CX4"Susan" had a Power Radio Mix done, both with a rap from Monie Love and without. AT40, obviously, played the one without. It's probably the only version of "Susan" that they played - I have 8/10, 8/17, and 9/7/91, and it's in all three. And it turns out that Rick played this too - at least, for one week he did (9/7). So maybe this was just a "single" version that would get played even outside of countdowns. (Then again, that just leaves CT40...) |
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Sept 21, 2021 15:20:21 GMT -5
10/24/87, hosted by Charlie Van Dyke - they did in fact play the album version of "Here I Go Again". I neglected to mention it earlier, but much like with "Mercedes Boy" in a 1994 Flashback, 9/7/91 Flashes Back to 9/12/87, where Whitesnake are #4, and the album version gets used for the clip there too. In their case, this may not be the only time that happened - 10/10/92 goes back to 10/10/87, which was their week at #1...unfortunately, I don't have that show, so I can't check it. Just checked, and, yep, the album version was also used in the 10/10/1992 show. |
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Sept 21, 2021 15:46:19 GMT -5
Whitney Houston's "My Name is Not Susan" had a slightly different mix played - harder to spot unless you compare the two directly. Album version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBlucfg46EAAT40 version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz4mrWZ-CX4"Susan" had a Power Radio Mix done, both with a rap from Monie Love and without. AT40, obviously, played the one without. It's probably the only version of "Susan" that they played - I have 8/10, 8/17, and 9/7/91, and it's in all three. And it turns out that Rick played this too - at least, for one week he did (9/7). So maybe this was just a "single" version that would get played even outside of countdowns. (Then again, that just leaves CT40...) I can confirm, that same version was played on the 9/7/1991 CT40 show; obviously, without the rap. The album version wasn't used in any of the CT40 shows during its run. |
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Post by Mike on Sept 22, 2021 15:07:31 GMT -5
And here's a second album version: George Michael's "Monkey" on 10/1/88 (also its last week in the countdown). The week before that (9/24) has it as well. Does 9/17? I don't have that week but do have 9/10, which does not. |
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Sept 22, 2021 21:10:56 GMT -5
And here's a second album version: George Michael's "Monkey" on 10/1/88 (also its last week in the countdown). The week before that (9/24) has it as well. Does 9/17? I don't have that week but do have 9/10, which does not. Nope, 9/17 is the same as 9/10. |
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