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Post by Hervard on Oct 29, 2019 9:25:50 GMT -5
Just thought of another theory about them avoiding the two 1979 shows. Some radio stations might not like to play many shows from that year, especially in the late part of the year. That could be why it always comes with a "B" show. In November and December, stations don't have a choice of two regular shows - however, there are stations that don't start playing holiday music until later in December. The two 1979 shows fall in that "awkward" spot, so that could be why Premiere hasn't chosen those shows yet.
One possible solution would be to offer the December, 1979 show after the New Year. Yes, that would be far removed from its original broadcast date, but because of what I mentioned above, that would be a reason for such an exception. As for the November show, that one could be pulled a few weeks back and played as part of the last twofer weekend of the year.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Oct 29, 2019 9:34:42 GMT -5
I remember the 12/1 show had at least one production error in it, but that should be an easy fix. What was it? Segments 4 and 10 both had the outro jingle at the beginning, followed by the intro jingle...so if you're listening to the original show, you'll hear the outro jingle twice in those two spots. (That's the beginning of sides 1B and 2B on the original LPs.) But it's a super easy fix with an audio editor, which I have. I just never fixed my copy. The copy of the show itself outside of that, sounds decent, to me anyway. Not sure what the reasoning is for not airing those two shows. I'm sure there's one that makes sense behind the scenes. |
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Post by at40nut on Oct 29, 2019 9:38:02 GMT -5
1971 optional extras in 2014 were: "Oh My Love" John Lennon (originally from show) "96 Tears" ? & The Mysterians (originally from show) "Your Move" Yes (#66) For 10/30/71, I'll go with: "Got To Be There" (#89; debuted) "96 Tears" (#1, this week in 1966) "Family Affair" (NR) I hope "Your Move" stays. One of the best-known #40 singles of the decade. I'm with you. Thank God they left it in. There is a station at work that I listen to in Omaha called CD105.9 which is basically an album rock station that plays "Your Move/"I've Seen All Good People" quite often. |
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Post by at40petebattistini on Oct 29, 2019 15:18:11 GMT -5
That means no 1979 show from 11/24 or 12/1. Wondering if 11/17 might get played, which last aired in 2012. If the long, long 1979 'A' drought ends 11/17, that means 80s has to be a 1983 (11/12/83 last played 2012 or 11/19/83 last 2009) stand alone based upon Peteski's earlier post? And lasvegaskid rolls a pair of dice (by the dashboard light) and walks away a winner -- 11/17/79 and 11/12/83 soon to be on-deck. |
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Post by trekkielo on Oct 29, 2019 19:08:59 GMT -5
Just thought of another theory about them avoiding the two 1979 shows. Some radio stations might not like to play many shows from that year, especially in the late part of the year. That could be why it always comes with a "B" show. In November and December, stations don't have a choice of two regular shows - however, there are stations that don't start playing holiday music until later in December. The two 1979 shows fall in that "awkward" spot, so that could be why Premiere hasn't chosen those shows yet. One possible solution would be to offer the December, 1979 show after the New Year. Yes, that would be far removed from its original broadcast date, but because of what I mentioned above, that would be a reason for such an exception. As for the November show, that one could be pulled a few weeks back and played as part of the last twofer weekend of the year. Segments 4 and 10 both had the outro jingle at the beginning, followed by the intro jingle...so if you're listening to the original show, you'll hear the outro jingle twice in those two spots. (That's the beginning of sides 1B and 2B on the original LPs.) But it's a super easy fix with an audio editor, which I have. I just never fixed my copy. The copy of the show itself outside of that, sounds decent, to me anyway. Not sure what the reasoning is for not airing those two shows. I'm sure there's one that makes sense behind the scenes. 12/8/79 was played over 12/1/79 just two years ago in 2017 because of Tom Petty's death as his debut on that particular countdown was "Don't Do Me Like That" along with The Heartbreakers at #37!  |
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Post by rgmike on Oct 29, 2019 22:38:04 GMT -5
I'm guessing the rationale is that, with the Elton hit, it's in the title, and also he's referring to himself (as opposed to denigrating someone else). Even famously conservative WABC, which had banned "My Ding-a-Ling" 2 years before, and which would even have problems with "Kiss You All Over" (!) in 1978, left Elton's B's alone (but they did delete the line about sniffing glue). How about that other Mike Chapman-produced one-hit wonder from fall '78, Nick Gilder and "Hot Child in the City"? Was WABC okay with that one? Yeah, they were. And with sexier '70s hits like "Pillow Talk" and "Love To Love You Baby", so go figure. But the Exile hit was banned for many weeks -- they finally added it after it had reached #1 nationally (but didn't play it in morning drive). Around that same time they half-banned "In the Bush" (only played it evenings and overnites). In '73 they banned "Cover of the Rolling Stone" for the drug references (tho' oddly they did play "One Toke Over the Line"!). |
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Post by darnall42 on Oct 30, 2019 3:10:29 GMT -5
How about that other Mike Chapman-produced one-hit wonder from fall '78, Nick Gilder and "Hot Child in the City"? Was WABC okay with that one? Yeah, they were. And with sexier '70s hits like "Pillow Talk" and "Love To Love You Baby", so go figure. But the Exile hit was banned for many weeks -- they finally added it after it had reached #1 nationally (but didn't play it in morning drive). Around that same time they half-banned "In the Bush" (only played it evenings and overnites). In '73 they banned "Cover of the Rolling Stone" for the drug references (tho' oddly they did play "One Toke Over the Line"!). Odd that they banned cover of the rolling stone for drug references ,Here in the UK it was banned on the BBC due to it mentioning "rolling Stone" - the BBC were strict on anything that was a product due to thier non advertising rules (we never got to hear paul simon's Kodachrome either  ) |
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Post by Hervard on Oct 30, 2019 9:15:36 GMT -5
Just thought of another theory about them avoiding the two 1979 shows. Some radio stations might not like to play many shows from that year, especially in the late part of the year. That could be why it always comes with a "B" show. In November and December, stations don't have a choice of two regular shows - however, there are stations that don't start playing holiday music until later in December. The two 1979 shows fall in that "awkward" spot, so that could be why Premiere hasn't chosen those shows yet. One possible solution would be to offer the December, 1979 show after the New Year. Yes, that would be far removed from its original broadcast date, but because of what I mentioned above, that would be a reason for such an exception. As for the November show, that one could be pulled a few weeks back and played as part of the last twofer weekend of the year. 12/8/79 was played over 12/1/79 just two years ago in 2017 because of Tom Petty's death as his debut on that particular countdown was "Don't Do Me Like That" along with The Heartbreakers at #37! Right - other than that, no 1979 shows were ran during the time period in November/December when they offered only one regular show. Who knows - perhaps both shows will remain untouched. |
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Post by rgmike on Oct 30, 2019 10:22:56 GMT -5
Yeah, they were. And with sexier '70s hits like "Pillow Talk" and "Love To Love You Baby", so go figure. But the Exile hit was banned for many weeks -- they finally added it after it had reached #1 nationally (but didn't play it in morning drive). Around that same time they half-banned "In the Bush" (only played it evenings and overnites). In '73 they banned "Cover of the Rolling Stone" for the drug references (tho' oddly they did play "One Toke Over the Line"!). Odd that they banned cover of the rolling stone for drug references ,Here in the UK it was banned on the BBC due to it mentioning "rolling Stone" - the BBC were strict on anything that was a product due to thier non advertising rules (we never got to hear paul simon's Kodachrome either ) Speaking of "Kodachrome", there was another NYC station that literally edited the "cr*p" out of it |
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Post by mga707 on Oct 30, 2019 11:40:37 GMT -5
Odd that they banned cover of the rolling stone for drug references ,Here in the UK it was banned on the BBC due to it mentioning "rolling Stone" - the BBC were strict on anything that was a product due to thier non advertising rules (we never got to hear paul simon's Kodachrome either ) Speaking of "Kodachrome", there was another NYC station that literally edited the "cr*p" out of it Nighttime top 40 powerhouse KOMA Oklahoma City did the same. That same year they also edited the 'dam*' out of Chicago's "Just You 'N' Me". And yet I seem to recall them playing the 'sexy' Sylvia and Barry White hits that summer. |
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Post by mga707 on Oct 30, 2019 11:42:55 GMT -5
Yeah, they were. And with sexier '70s hits like "Pillow Talk" and "Love To Love You Baby", so go figure. But the Exile hit was banned for many weeks -- they finally added it after it had reached #1 nationally (but didn't play it in morning drive). Around that same time they half-banned "In the Bush" (only played it evenings and overnites). In '73 they banned "Cover of the Rolling Stone" for the drug references (tho' oddly they did play "One Toke Over the Line"!). Odd that they banned cover of the rolling stone for drug references ,Here in the UK it was banned on the BBC due to it mentioning "rolling Stone" - the BBC were strict on anything that was a product due to thier non advertising rules (we never got to hear paul simon's Kodachrome either ) Yes, it would be hard to change those two to satisfy the BBC's 'no ads' rule, unlike the "Lola" 'Coca-cola'/'cherry cola' and "Come Monday" 'Hush Puppies'/'hiking boots' re-recorded lines. |
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Post by trekkielo on Oct 30, 2019 12:29:11 GMT -5
12/8/79 was played over 12/1/79 just two years ago in 2017 because of Tom Petty's death as his debut on that particular countdown was "Don't Do Me Like That" along with The Heartbreakers at #37! Right - other than that, no 1979 shows were ran during the time period in November/December when they offered only one regular show. Who knows - perhaps both shows will remain untouched. Wrong, here's Premiere's pattern of 1979 standalone shows since 2011... 12/24/2011: 12/22/1979 (4-hour show; began at #32) 11/17/2012: 11/17/1979 11/09/2013: 11/10/1979 12/12/2015: 12/15/1979 12/02/2017: 12/08/1979 It would be stupid if they leave those two shows plus 12/22/79 untouched for the aforementioned reasons! |
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Post by tzmac on Oct 30, 2019 16:24:27 GMT -5
This week's presentations (Weekend of November 2-3, 2019): November 11, 1978 (A) - 4 hours (OPTIONAL ORIGINAL HOUR 1) / October 30, 1971 with mono2stereo conversion by Ken Martin (B). When the 10.30.71 show was presented on 10.25.2014 - did it have the Ken Martin mono2stereo conversion? |
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Post by matt on Oct 30, 2019 17:24:45 GMT -5
This week's presentations (Weekend of November 2-3, 2019): November 11, 1978 (A) - 4 hours (OPTIONAL ORIGINAL HOUR 1) / October 30, 1971 with mono2stereo conversion by Ken Martin (B). When the 10.30.71 show was presented on 10.25.2014 - did it have the Ken Martin mono2stereo conversion? I don't believe it did. Ken hadn't started doing that yet--though it wasn't too long after that. (Ken can correct me if I'm wrong ) |
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Post by matt on Oct 30, 2019 17:29:29 GMT -5
Right - other than that, no 1979 shows were ran during the time period in November/December when they offered only one regular show. Who knows - perhaps both shows will remain untouched. Wrong, here's Premiere's pattern of 1979 standalone shows since 2011... 12/24/2011: 12/22/1979 (4-hour show; began at #32) 11/17/2012: 11/17/1979 11/09/2013: 11/10/1979 12/12/2015: 12/15/1979 12/02/2017: 12/08/1979 It would be stupid if they leave those two shows plus 12/22/79 untouched for the aforementioned reasons! You are correct on all of the above. In addition, Premiere has played every 1978 show from 11/18/78 through 12/16/78 during the Xmas programming periods (although only hours 2 through 4 of 11/18/78 and 12/2/78 have been offered to date). It won't surprise me if 11/17/79 were offered the weekend of November 16th, and something like 12/22/79 were aired the weekend of December 21st. Only one 1979 show from July 4th through the end of the year would be odd. Wups - I meant to say that no 1979 shows ran in November/December since 2015 - save for the December 1979 show in 2017 which, as you said, might have been an exception because of Tom Petty's then-recent death, since his song "Don't Do Me Like That" was debuting on that very countdown. I'm just saying they might have decided to not play 1979 shows during the holiday as of 2016. Man I'd be surprised if that were the case. I think it's mostly coincidence that they haven't played much from November or December 1979 lately, kind of like they tend to inadvertently ignore certain months for stretches of time--such as August 1975 (only 8/30/75 was aired until 2014) or July 1987 (neither of the two shows were aired until 2014, but both have been played twice since then) or July 1977 (no shows until 2013, 7/9/77 has now been aired three times as an 'A'). I'm guessing the last two months of '79 are stuck in one of those places at the moment. |
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