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Post by briguy52748 on Nov 28, 2023 0:17:13 GMT -5
This weekend's show is from December 4, 1976. Optional extras: "Blinded By The Light" Manfred Mann's Earth Band "Family Affair" Sly & The Family Stone "Car Wash" Rose Royce Extras are the same as when show was last aired by Premiere in 2013. "Family Affair" was the #1 song on December 4, 1971. Two weeks in a row to hear “Family Affair.” Brian
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Post by matt on Nov 28, 2023 13:14:17 GMT -5
Well there continues to be more unfortunate editing on the 3-hour 70's shows (especially noticeable on the 11/17/73 and 11/27/71 shows, which didn't have such edits in their previous airings). Once again, commercial breaks in odd places and several of the split logos, teasers, etc. removed. Too bad, because it has taken away from the authenticity of these shows and therefore diminished their appeal IMHO -- much like the edits that SXM has been doing to the 70's on 7 airings for several years now. I understand what you’re saying. I’ll always be an advocate for AT40 shows that are complete, undoctored and played as originally produced. Fortunately, there are many who choose to preserve them in that way. And even though Premiere and XM present the shows using their own controls, there are still numerous reasons to be grateful that vintage AT40 countdowns continue to be broadcast decades later. Agree Pete, and I hope I don't sound ungrateful for the re-broadcasting of these shows each week--the classic AT40s have become a regular part of my weekends over the past 15 years, and maybe that's what makes me more passionate about it. I just feel all this latest editing seems unnecessary, since for the first 10+ years of the 70s series, there was no such editing (other than songs being shortened and some of the original extras being extracted as optional extras, but I totally get those edits and don't have a problem with them) and there hasn't been any editing of the 80s shows (with one exception in the last couple years). As a long time fan of the original AT40 shows, the biggest appeal is Casey himself and these edits remove parts of Casey, but I'm trying to figure out what the value in that is? If it's just to hear a few more seconds of some of the songs, it doesn't seem worth losing Casey's speaking parts to do so. Just one man's opinion I know. I'm guessing there are others that feel differently, but I do feel the better product is with more of the original presentation and less of Casey getting edited out in places.
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Post by papathree on Nov 28, 2023 14:57:05 GMT -5
I understand what you’re saying. I’ll always be an advocate for AT40 shows that are complete, undoctored and played as originally produced. Fortunately, there are many who choose to preserve them in that way. And even though Premiere and XM present the shows using their own controls, there are still numerous reasons to be grateful that vintage AT40 countdowns continue to be broadcast decades later. Agree Pete, and I hope I don't sound ungrateful for the re-broadcasting of these shows each week--the classic AT40s have become a regular part of my weekends over the past 15 years, and maybe that's what makes me more passionate about it. I just feel all this latest editing seems unnecessary, since for the first 10+ years of the 70s series, there was no such editing (other than songs being shortened and some of the original extras being extracted as optional extras, but I totally get those edits and don't have a problem with them) and there hasn't been any editing of the 80s shows (with one exception in the last couple years). As a long time fan of the original AT40 shows, the biggest appeal is Casey himself and these edits remove parts of Casey, but I'm trying to figure out what the value in that is? If it's just to hear a few more seconds of some of the songs, it doesn't seem worth losing Casey's speaking parts to do so. Just one man's opinion I know. I'm guessing there are others that feel differently, but I do feel the better product is with more of the original presentation and less of Casey getting edited out in places. Some have supposed that the edits are to make the shows "fit" into Premiere Subscriber Stations' flow regarding content and commercials, but that is BOGUS (I say) because of just what Matt has said . . . that the shows aired "untouched" for several years before someone started "messing" with them. I bet it's just a matter of time before the `80s shows begin to get the same screwy editing treatment that the `70s shows have received. I've wondered whether Premiere (and XM) do it in order to help the original shows keep their value to collectors and/or sellers. At any rate count me in as one who very much prefers to hear the shows as they were produced originally by AT40, warts and all, and NOT as someone has edited them to sound. Mono shows should be in mono. Content should be as it was produced (in the correct order, without moving stuff around to suit whomever), and without "splicing in" Casey's voice saying things that were not said in the original version of the show.
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Post by michaelcasselman on Nov 28, 2023 15:01:56 GMT -5
About 10 years ago there were several stations/affiliates that posted the Premiere cue sheets (Not the original cue sheets found on the Charis site, mind you, but the sheets for the current series) for each weeks shows. Are there any stations that still do so, or is there a way to view them? It would be interesting to see how many seconds are being shaved off of each segment, or even cumulatively, for each episode compared to their (for example) 2020, 2016, or even 2013 airings.
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Post by at40petebattistini on Nov 29, 2023 15:44:17 GMT -5
An AT40 chart trivia question…
Q: Between 1970-1995, how many times on corresponding surveys did the #40 single originate from the #1 album? A: At least once, on December 4, 1976.
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Post by vince on Nov 29, 2023 16:05:40 GMT -5
An AT40 chart trivia question… Q: Between 1970-1995, how many times on corresponding surveys did the #40 single originate from the #1 album? A: At least once, on December 4, 1976. It happened again on 5/20/1978. Stayin' Alive was #40 on the Hot 100 and the Soundtrack to Saturday Night Fever was the #1 Lp that week.
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Post by jmack19 on Nov 29, 2023 16:52:34 GMT -5
An AT40 chart trivia question… Q: Between 1970-1995, how many times on corresponding surveys did the #40 single originate from the #1 album? A: At least once, on December 4, 1976. On October 29, 1977 by Fleetwood Mac. On November 19, 1983 by The Police. On April 5, 1986 and August 8, 1987 by Whitney Houston. It happened again on 5/20/1978. Stayin' Alive was #40 on the Hot 100 and the Soundtrack to Saturday Night Fever was the #1 Lp that week. It happened on 2/25/1978. If I Can't Have You was #40 on the Hot 100 and the Soundtrack to Saturday Night Fever was the #1 Lp that week. On 5/19/1984, Almost Paradise was #40. It was from the #1 lp, the Soundtrack to Footloose.
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Post by mrjukebox on Nov 30, 2023 14:24:07 GMT -5
Kudos to Ken Martin of WTOJ for supersizing the "AT40" countdowns from the 70's-Hope he continues to do this in 2024.
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Post by seminolefan on Nov 30, 2023 20:20:07 GMT -5
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Post by mga707 on Nov 30, 2023 20:38:47 GMT -5
Not a week with a lot of 'big movers'. Marilyn and Billy, up 8 from 14 to 6, take that distinction, followed by Brick, up 6 to 24.
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Post by jmack19 on Dec 1, 2023 0:06:46 GMT -5
I'll go with 12/12/70 over 12/13/75 for next weekend. 12/12/70 was last aired by Premiere in 2013. The 1975 show last aired in 2017. 1970 was last featured in September.
2 years ago, Sirius XM aired shows from 1971,1974,1977,1978 & 1979 over an 8-week period. Premiere has featured these shows over the past 8 weeks. Next week 2 years ago, SXM aired 12/12/70.
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Post by dth1971 on Dec 1, 2023 8:57:45 GMT -5
I'll go with 12/12/70 over 12/13/75 for next weekend. 12/12/70 was last aired by Premiere in 2013. The 1975 show last aired in 2017. 1970 was last featured in September. 2 years ago, Sirius XM aired shows from 1971,1974,1977,1978 & 1979 over an 8-week period. Premiere has featured these shows over the past 8 weeks. Next week 2 years ago, SXM aired 12/12/70. I rather wait until the third weekend of December 2023 when 12/19/1970 can be played so I can hope with Ken Martin's help the #39 song of "So Close" by Jake Holmes is replaced by the correct #39 song of "Love The One You With" by Stephen Stills. And the "So Close" song goes to OPTIONAL EXTRA status with Larry Morgan's description on that AT40 mistake. I also still hope for Christmas weekend 12/22/1979 to be played in all 4 hours with first hour optional. Still hoping 12/13/1975 is next weekend's AT40: The 70's show.
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Post by laura on Dec 1, 2023 10:23:47 GMT -5
I'll go with 12/12/70 over 12/13/75 for next weekend. 12/12/70 was last aired by Premiere in 2013. The 1975 show last aired in 2017. 1970 was last featured in September. 2 years ago, Sirius XM aired shows from 1971,1974,1977,1978 & 1979 over an 8-week period. Premiere has featured these shows over the past 8 weeks. Next week 2 years ago, SXM aired 12/12/70. I rather wait until the third weekend of December 2023 when 12/19/1970 can be played so I can hope with Ken Martin's help the #39 song of "So Close" by Jake Holmes is replaced by the correct #39 song of "Love The One You With" by Stephen Stills. And the "So Close" song goes to OPTIONAL EXTRA status with Larry Morgan's description on that AT40 mistake. I also still hope for Christmas weekend 12/22/1979 to be played in all 4 hours with first hour optional. Still hoping 12/13/1975 is next weekend's AT40: The 70's show. How many times do we have to tell you that I'd rather have a show remain intact even with mistakes?
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Dec 1, 2023 12:04:47 GMT -5
I rather wait until the third weekend of December 2023 when 12/19/1970 can be played so I can hope with Ken Martin's help the #39 song of "So Close" by Jake Holmes is replaced by the correct #39 song of "Love The One You With" by Stephen Stills. And the "So Close" song goes to OPTIONAL EXTRA status with Larry Morgan's description on that AT40 mistake. I also still hope for Christmas weekend 12/22/1979 to be played in all 4 hours with first hour optional. Still hoping 12/13/1975 is next weekend's AT40: The 70's show. How many times do we have to tell you that I'd rather have a show remain intact even with mistakes? Way too many. And we see a lot of "I'd rather have/wait..." posts also. 🙄
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Post by dth1971 on Dec 1, 2023 19:53:10 GMT -5
I rather wait until the third weekend of December 2023 when 12/19/1970 can be played so I can hope with Ken Martin's help the #39 song of "So Close" by Jake Holmes is replaced by the correct #39 song of "Love The One You With" by Stephen Stills. And the "So Close" song goes to OPTIONAL EXTRA status with Larry Morgan's description on that AT40 mistake. I also still hope for Christmas weekend 12/22/1979 to be played in all 4 hours with first hour optional. Still hoping 12/13/1975 is next weekend's AT40: The 70's show. How many times do we have to tell you that I'd rather have a show remain intact even with mistakes? Okay, have it your way.
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