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Post by mrjukebox on Oct 7, 2023 12:09:11 GMT -5
Listened to the 10/13/79 show on WSQL the other night & heard an abridged version of "Gotta Serve Somebody" by Bob Dylan-Hopefully,Ken Martin will air the full-length version.
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Post by skuncle on Oct 7, 2023 12:23:07 GMT -5
Ahhh innocence, at the start of the 1979 show Casey introduces song #40 as being "the title track from Fleetwood Mac's new album, "Tusk", as in elephant". That's not what it is in reference to.
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Post by kani on Oct 7, 2023 12:49:47 GMT -5
ok.... after #26 on AT40 1979, so apparently now in ball game for WPNC fm, They said they'll resume AT40 after football game is done. Don't know how long it would take..
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Post by jmack19 on Oct 7, 2023 13:06:45 GMT -5
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Post by kenmartin on Oct 7, 2023 13:24:22 GMT -5
Some Program Directors believe that at the 3:20 mark in Stevie Wonder's song "Living For the City," he sings "the fkin' crowded city." However, the lyrics on Google indicate that the words are "The funky, cryin' city." There's also evidence from a live performance on YouTube where he repeats the same line without censorship. To comply with the Program Director's demands, Premiere will edit songs like this to avoid questionable swear words, which is why songs like "Bad Blood," "Life in the Fast Lane," "Tumblin' Dice," and more receive edits. Personally, I may not agree with this policy, especially regarding the word 'bch,' but I don't have the authority to change it. That Premiere policy is so stupid. "Bad Blood" gets the 'b word' removed, but not "The B---- Is Back" or "Ain't Love a B----", where it is so much more prominent (right there in the titles!) Just curious, what in the heck is the 'questionable' word in "Tumblin' Dice"? The only one I can think of is 'rape'. And if that's the word, how about "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da"? Same word, repeated several times. Haven't noticed the word edited out in either song on the Premiere shows, maybe I'm just not paying close attention. And speaking of the Stones, what about the line heard as "Start Me Up" is starting to fade out, referring to a 'dead man'? Seem to recall Casey/AT40 normally fading the 45 before that line, or Casey talking over it. "This low down btchn' got my poor feet a itchin'"
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Post by kenmartin on Oct 7, 2023 13:35:04 GMT -5
Some Program Directors believe that at the 3:20 mark in Stevie Wonder's song "Living For the City," he sings "the fkin' crowded city." However, the lyrics on Google indicate that the words are "The funky, cryin' city." There's also evidence from a live performance on YouTube where he repeats the same line without censorship. To comply with the Program Director's demands, Premiere will edit songs like this to avoid questionable swear words, which is why songs like "Bad Blood," "Life in the Fast Lane," "Tumblin' Dice," and more receive edits. Personally, I may not agree with this policy, especially regarding the word 'bch,' but I don't have the authority to change it. That Premiere policy is so stupid. "Bad Blood" gets the 'b word' removed, but not "The B---- Is Back" or "Ain't Love a B----", where it is so much more prominent (right there in the titles!) Just curious, what in the heck is the 'questionable' word in "Tumblin' Dice"? The only one I can think of is 'rape'. And if that's the word, how about "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da"? Same word, repeated several times. Haven't noticed the word edited out in either song on the Premiere shows, maybe I'm just not paying close attention. And speaking of the Stones, what about the line heard as "Start Me Up" is starting to fade out, referring to a 'dead man'? Seem to recall Casey/AT40 normally fading the 45 before that line, or Casey talking over it. When I worked at WKBO, we couldn't say the title of that Rod Stewart song. We had to introduce it simply as "Ain't Love". Both of the songs you mention with that word in the title are problematic. Because they're so prominent in the song there is no way to edit them out. Again, not my decision. You can lay the blame at the feet of 1 or 2 PD's who control what the rest of us hear. In the past, the AT40 staff would write a memo to subscribing stations alerting them to the potentially offensive lyrics and let the station decide how to handle them. No so much anymore.
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Post by mga707 on Oct 7, 2023 13:37:07 GMT -5
That Premiere policy is so stupid. "Bad Blood" gets the 'b word' removed, but not "The B---- Is Back" or "Ain't Love a B----", where it is so much more prominent (right there in the titles!) Just curious, what in the heck is the 'questionable' word in "Tumblin' Dice"? The only one I can think of is 'rape'. And if that's the word, how about "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da"? Same word, repeated several times. Haven't noticed the word edited out in either song on the Premiere shows, maybe I'm just not paying close attention. And speaking of the Stones, what about the line heard as "Start Me Up" is starting to fade out, referring to a 'dead man'? Seem to recall Casey/AT40 normally fading the 45 before that line, or Casey talking over it. "This low down btchn' got my poor feet a itchin'" Ah, yes--forgot about that line.
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Post by mga707 on Oct 7, 2023 13:46:26 GMT -5
And on the subject of 'bad word' edits, I always liked how ZZ Top slipped one by nearly everyone in "Legs". Took me a long time to realize the word was in there. Don't recll AT40 'bleeping' it bqck in '84, but Premiere now does edit it out.
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Post by dth1971 on Oct 7, 2023 15:01:29 GMT -5
WVLI Kankakee now has 10/13/1979 A show on this Saturday morning starting with hour #2 with "Gotta Serve Somebody" by Bob Dylan at #33.
One thing I learned from AT40: The 70's 10/9/1971 this morning: I didn't know Bobby Russell, who sang on the #37 song "Saturday Morning Confusion", sang on low price/mail order sound alike/copycat music song record album complations in the 1960's (Casey mentioned he impersonated Dean Martin, Johnny Cash, and Kyu "Sukiyaki" Sykamoto).
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Post by mga707 on Oct 7, 2023 15:32:45 GMT -5
WVLI Kankakee now has 10/13/1979 A show on this Saturday morning starting with hour #2 with "Gotta Serve Somebody" by Bob Dylan at #33. One thing I learned from AT40: The 70's 10/9/1971 this morning: I didn't know Bobby Russell, who sang on the #37 song "Saturday Morning Confusion", sang on low price/mail order sound alike/copycat music song record album complations in the 1960's (Casey mentioned he impersonated Dean Martin, Johnny Cash, and Kyu "Sukiyaki" Sykamoto). I didn't know that either. I recall reading somewhere years ago that Elton John had a similar music industry job very early in his career (mid-'60s) in the U.K.
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Post by kani on Oct 7, 2023 15:47:02 GMT -5
WVWP repeating last week's at40: 1977
WSQL im listening for second hr... for 1979
wow interesting story about what happened to Stephen Foster. He sadly passed away at age 37. Born in 1826, died 1864 3 wks away hitting top 40: Blondie - Dreaming I didn't have chance to listen all... but I will try WTOJ tomorrow
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Post by LC on Oct 7, 2023 16:10:44 GMT -5
Ahhh innocence, at the start of the 1979 show Casey introduces song #40 as being "the title track from Fleetwood Mac's new album, "Tusk", as in elephant". That's not what it is in reference to. The song has never made sense to me, so even a "naughty" explanation doesn't help much. And I thought Stevie wrote some inscrutable tunes....
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Post by dth1971 on Oct 7, 2023 16:35:36 GMT -5
Correct on that last point. KDRI, for one, airs local ads during thee first hour when they run 4-hr shows. Okay, thank you. Fair enough. Although "messing" with the flow of the first hour of 4-hour shows is a relatively new occurrence. The first hour used to play happily along, moving seamlessly from "Casey's Coast to Coast" to "American Top 40" and on into the next song. In this 10/13/79 show someone deliberately cut some of those split logos out of the first hour. Also, in this show someone edited the teaser for (and the story about) James Brown's "Please, Please, Please" to remove Casey's commentary that referred to the song peaking at #95 on the pop chart, and replaced those pieces with Casey uttering words to the effect of "never reached the Hot 100." What is that all about? Were there 2 versions by James Brown of "Please Please Please" that were released? The original in 1960 never made Billboard's Hot 100 and the 1964 version reached #95 on Billboard's Hot 100.
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Post by papathree on Oct 7, 2023 19:20:14 GMT -5
Okay, thank you. Fair enough. Although "messing" with the flow of the first hour of 4-hour shows is a relatively new occurrence. The first hour used to play happily along, moving seamlessly from "Casey's Coast to Coast" to "American Top 40" and on into the next song. In this 10/13/79 show someone deliberately cut some of those split logos out of the first hour. Also, in this show someone edited the teaser for (and the story about) James Brown's "Please, Please, Please" to remove Casey's commentary that referred to the song peaking at #95 on the pop chart, and replaced those pieces with Casey uttering words to the effect of "never reached the Hot 100." What is that all about? Were there 2 versions by James Brown of "Please Please Please" that were released? The original in 1960 never made Billboard's Hot 100 and the 1964 version reached #95 on Billboard's Hot 100. Yes you are correct. Wiki notes that the record was re-released in 1964 with the label adding "crowd noise" to make it appear it was a "live version." It was that 1964 version that reached #95. HOWEVER, the AT40 scriptwriter(s) gave Casey a script to read that said the 1950s original only made it to #95, and someone at Premiere decided to "alter history" by removing the "peak at #95" references and inserting BOGUS "never made the Hot 100" statements by Casey. Why does anyone think it's a good idea to try to revise history? If Casey said it, it should be left in the show, as it was said.
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Post by skuncle on Oct 7, 2023 19:41:02 GMT -5
Ahhh innocence, at the start of the 1979 show Casey introduces song #40 as being "the title track from Fleetwood Mac's new album, "Tusk", as in elephant". That's not what it is in reference to. The song has never made sense to me, so even a "naughty" explanation doesn't help much. And I thought Stevie wrote some inscrutable tunes.... Well, lots of drugs played into it. The “tusk” in question is part of the male anatomy. But in the studio they also used it to mean something else. They had t-shirts made that said “Get Tusked” Stevie and Christine didn’t like that the song was used as the title of the album. They felt they guys were being very childish.
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