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Post by mkarns on Dec 28, 2013 0:31:22 GMT -5
This week's show was from the 12/24/88 Billboard chart (it was "frozen" the next week.)
I'm not sure what's next. Martha said 1985 for next week, but if she meant January 1985 that means a countdown with almost all the same songs as in the December 1984 show played last week. A better option would be Dec. 1985/Jan. 1986, which would use the BB list from 12/28/85 and 1/4/86 (again, frozen.)
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Post by mellongraig on Dec 29, 2013 21:06:41 GMT -5
I wished they should have swapped 1988 for 1986 last week. A December 1986 countdown would have been more reasonable, but oh well...
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Post by Michael1973 on Jan 3, 2014 16:02:46 GMT -5
I have mixed thoughts on 1985 possibly being played this weekend. It would indeed be stupid of them to feature 2 consecutive Billboard charts (12/22/84 and 1/5/85). However, it would also allow for subsequent 1985 countdowns to be from different time frames as those played in 2012 and 2013 (assuming they will continue to play 1985 every 10th week or so).
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Post by mkarns on Jan 4, 2014 1:46:45 GMT -5
Next week's Copycat Casey; 1986?? If they said that, I'm hoping and guessing it was an error, as it would be redundant after this week's show; contrary to what we might have anticipated, they didn't play January 1985 this week shortly after doing December 1984, and there was one week separating them. And it'll be too late next week to play a December 1986 chart. |
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Post by Michael1973 on Jan 4, 2014 13:25:02 GMT -5
This is why the Big 40 countdown has such a stellar reputation -- as noted above, they are playing the 12/28/85 chart, but they're claiming throughout that it's the top songs from "this week in 1985."
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Post by skuncle on Jan 4, 2014 14:19:48 GMT -5
To be fair, they do keep saying "from the last week of 1985". They said that there wasn't a new chart the week of '85 and the first week of '86, so they are using the frozen chart.
They also said next weeks chart will be the from the second week of 1986 which as has been pointed out will pretty much be a repeat of this week.
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Post by mellongraig on Jan 4, 2014 16:04:48 GMT -5
PM770 from the XMFan Forums recently quoted the Big 40 Countdown:
"I set an e-mail asking them about it. I also mentioned the year over year repeats that happened during 2013 and offered to send them my list of what they have done over the past two years to avoid this.
Hopefully they are receptive. I do love the show and would love to see this corrected."
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Post by skuncle on Jan 4, 2014 19:14:05 GMT -5
I just looked at the shows I recorded, they did this same show last year, 12-28-85 and the next weeks show was 1-11-86. So they are just starting the same shows (although with newly recorded segments) all over again!
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Post by Michael1973 on Jan 6, 2014 11:35:28 GMT -5
That's not quite accurate. I looked on another site where someone keeps track of the show, and while they did begin 2013 with the same 12/28/85 chart, the following week was from 1/9/82.
I did notice Alan Hunter kept clarifying that they were using a December 1985 chart, however the automated voice-overs between songs kept saying "this week in 1985" and playing clips from 1985 movies, etc.
What annoys me is how unnecessary any of this is. As noted above, a year ago they featured the same chart for the first week of the year, except that they branded it as a 1986 countdown. Why all of the added nonsense this year?
I'm glad someone has emailed them to ask about the repeating of charts every year, but I rather doubt anything will change. Whoever programs this show clearly has no use for variety or accuracy.
And yet we still listen every week...
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Post by skuncle on Jan 7, 2014 19:24:34 GMT -5
That's not quite accurate. I looked on another site where someone keeps track of the show, and while they did begin 2013 with the same 12/28/85 chart, the following week was from 1/9/82.. I stand corrected, I just checked again and yes, last year they did indeed air the 1/9/82 show. It was in 2012 the January 1986 show aired last. |
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Post by mkarns on Jan 8, 2014 14:11:54 GMT -5
This on the 80s on 8 Facebook page:
"Hey all, the reason for 86 right after 85 is it's just the way it worked out this year... Any year in the 80s that had a first week in January published chart had recently been covered, and most years did not have a published list .. So this coming week u will get 86, and some of the songs from that last aired countdown will be on it!"
"Some of the songs" is actually 35, assuming they use the 1/11/86 Hot 100. Five new songs entered that week, at positions 36-40. Since I usually record the countdown each week and delete it at the end of the week, I guess I'll just capture the first five and turn it off while keeping most of last week's for another week.
I don't know how they worked it out, but how hard could it have been for someone to notice in advance that nearly the same show as last week was chosen, and perhaps switch with whatever is planned for next week?
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Post by Michael1973 on Jan 9, 2014 11:43:47 GMT -5
This on the 80s on 8 Facebook page: "Hey all, the reason for 86 right after 85 is it's just the way it worked out this year... Any year in the 80s that had a first week in January published chart had recently been covered, and most years did not have a published list .. So this coming week u will get 86, and some of the songs from that last aired countdown will be on it!" This is absurd. Any year that had a first-week chart had recently been covered? So the only option was to use a December chart from the same era they were covering the following week?? They couldn't, oh I don't know, PICK SOMETHING OTHER THAN 1986 for this coming week? I repeat again, in 2013 they used the 12/28/85 chart for week #1 and called it 1986. Then they moved on to something else for week #2. Why is this so hard to figure out? Okay, rant over... |
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Post by pkrier on Jan 10, 2014 8:39:23 GMT -5
This on the 80s on 8 Facebook page: "Hey all, the reason for 86 right after 85 is it's just the way it worked out this year... Any year in the 80s that had a first week in January published chart had recently been covered, and most years did not have a published list .. So this coming week u will get 86, and some of the songs from that last aired countdown will be on it!" This is absurd. Any year that had a first-week chart had recently been covered? So the only option was to use a December chart from the same era they were covering the following week?? They couldn't, oh I don't know, PICK SOMETHING OTHER THAN 1986 for this coming week? I repeat again, in 2013 they used the 12/28/85 chart for week #1 and called it 1986. Then they moved on to something else for week #2. Why is this so hard to figure out? Okay, rant over... I agree with you Michael. This is my first post on this board. And not only did they do 1986 the first week of last year (2013), they also did that year the first week of 2012, and I believe the second or third week of January, 2011. The question is why don't they EVER do a 1986 countdown for December? This is ridiculous. They never did 1982 or 1984 for the month of December until this past month. Way beyond ridiculous and inexcusable not to do 1986 toward the end of the year, and then cover that year once again in the beginning of the year. I sometimes I wish I was the one working for Sirius and that way things would change. Okay, my rant is over. |
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Post by Michael1973 on Jan 10, 2014 11:38:59 GMT -5
Nice to meet you, pkrier. I agree with you totally on all points. I've only had SiriusXM since October 2011, so I don't really know what was played prior to that, but here's what I've figured out...
They seem to cycle through each year once every 10 weeks or so. They rarely deviate from their pattern, even when it means playing a January show shortly after December of the previous year. The main problem, though, is that it causes each year to eventually repeat every 50 weeks -- and since a year contains 52 weeks, we get the same time frames covered year after year. This is why almost all of the 1987 and 1988 shows played in 2012 were repeated in 2013. They just can't figure out how to do it any other way.
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Post by mkarns on Jan 10, 2014 12:25:22 GMT -5
Nice to meet you, pkrier. I agree with you totally on all points. I've only had SiriusXM since October 2011, so I don't really know what was played prior to that, but here's what I've figured out... They seem to cycle through each year once every 10 weeks or so. They rarely deviate from their pattern, even when it means playing a January show shortly after December of the previous year. The main problem, though, is that it causes each year to eventually repeat every 50 weeks -- and since a year contains 52 weeks, we get the same time frames covered year after year. This is why almost all of the 1987 and 1988 shows played in 2012 were repeated in 2013. They just can't figure out how to do it any other way. They could do it like Premiere does with Casey's AT40s; in fact they've got more freedom in their choices than Premiere, since they can play all 10 years and don't have to plan around guest hosted or special shows. That said, the Premiere approach isn't perfect; the 10 week rotation by SXM does avoid the pitfall we've had from Premiere at times of some years being overplayed while others are overlooked for months. But they could at least take note of what was aired last year and avoid airing near-identical shows, and recheck their list and make alterations in advance if the same year is being replayed too close together (or almost the same year, like Dec 1985/Jan 1986 back to back) or if a year is skipped for too long. |
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