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Post by laura on Dec 3, 2021 23:59:01 GMT -5
So an earlier airing of 1982 than expected. I guess they're trying to avoid a close 81-82 thing.
A couple of oddities I noticed listening to this week's show. They played that bumper with The Count for the first time in a while and they played this version of "Everybody Have Fun Tonight" that Wang Chung rerecorded last year in response to the pandemic.
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Post by jgve1952 on Dec 4, 2021 6:31:10 GMT -5
Very surprised at 1982 also. I was expecting 1981, but that won't likely follow 1982 to avoid back-to-back years. 1987 would be due on 12-17, but that would be a repeat from one year ago when 1987 was played on 12-18-20. 1989 would be a viable alternative for 12-17.
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Post by Mike on Dec 4, 2021 7:24:52 GMT -5
Good News: 12/11/82 provides an easily preferrable repeat over last year's show from next week, as its one previous airing was in 2013. Bad News: 1982 as a selection does not help the 81-87-89 collection at all - actually, it might only aggravate the situation. If 1981 gets pushed back, that leaves last year's selection of 1987, or 12/16/89 - which is the one December 89 show to have aired so far. To add insult to injury: Whatever follows 82 is all but guaranteed to be a repeat, as all the years whose respective weeks have not yet aired - 80, 82, 85, 86 - have been four of the last five selections. All things considered, maybe the best thing to hope for is if they bite the bullet and put 81 next anyway, or if 1984 were to come back early too.
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Post by laura on Dec 4, 2021 10:56:57 GMT -5
It leads me to wonder if they actually do have anything planned for the end of the year. If they don't, then whatever the last year in the 81-87-89 will most certainly be played. I'm hoping they don't push 1989 at least into 2022.
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Post by mkarns on Dec 4, 2021 11:19:12 GMT -5
Late 1989 has been sufficiently neglected over the years that I don't mind even a repeat of 12/16/89--plus at least we know we won't get most of the same songs shortly thereafter in a January 1990 show from the same channel. (90s on 9 might do that, but they probably don't plan their schedule around the other Decades channels.)
I'd be OK with letting 1987 slip into the next year if 1988 does as well, as I don't think we've had a January 1988 show in a long time if ever, but we don't need that quickly on the heels of December 1987. (OTOH, we did just get December 1986...) December 1982 next week is a good choice even if it's a somewhat shorter than expected gap (seven weeks) since the last 1982 show, because they just did 1983 a couple of weeks ago making a mostly redundant January 1983 countdown less likely.
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Post by laura on Dec 4, 2021 12:34:42 GMT -5
We did have a January 1988 show at the beginning of the year, but that month is so rarely touched upon that I definitely wouldn't mind another one, as long as it doesn't have too much overlap compared to what happened.
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Post by Michael1973 on Dec 4, 2021 14:50:43 GMT -5
Even though I doubt this is true, it seems like they're going out of their way lately to avoid copying Premiere. 1981 is up next for Premiere so the VJs playing that year next week would have been the same chart, in addition to being what they played a year ago. The following week now looks like a 1987/1989 toss-up. 1981 could air over Christmas. I think that would be new. I'd be OK with letting 1987 slip into the next year if 1988 does as well, as I don't think we've had a January 1988 show in a long time if ever, but we don't need that quickly on the heels of December 1987. 1/9/88 was done this past year, but it was the first time ever for that month. If they don't mess with the rotation too much, we could see a 1/23 or 1/30 airing. Bumping 1987 into January could be good also, as I don't think the early part of that month has been done too often.
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Post by Mike on Dec 4, 2021 15:20:24 GMT -5
1981 could air over Christmas. I think that would be new. Yes. Bumping 1987 into January could be good also, as I don't think the early part of that month has been done too often. 1/3 is a frozen week, leaving 1/10 the only regular chart week yet unplayed from that month. (After that: 1/17 has been played twice in the past four/five years, 1/24 aired in 2016, and 1/31 is overplayed.)
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Post by jgve1952 on Dec 4, 2021 16:38:52 GMT -5
If December yields 1986, 1982, 1981, 1987 and 1989 (if no special)--then those years would not be likely to be played in January. However, 1983 and 1988 would be likely after hearing songs from 1982 and 1987. Safer bets would be 1980, 1984 and 1985.
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Post by laura on Dec 6, 2021 16:35:50 GMT -5
Looks like they will be doing a special for New Year's weekend: blog.siriusxm.com/vote-favorite-80s-party-songs/ At least it's going to be through fan vote and not something just thrown together. With that, I wonder which year out of 81-87-89 will get carried over into 2022. I personally hope it's not 1989.
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Post by Mike on Dec 6, 2021 18:03:54 GMT -5
I'd say 1987, despite not having aired in the longest, would actually be the best candidate for that - 1981 has two January weeks unplayed, but the first of those is 1/17, while the earliest 1989 week yet unplayed isn't until 2/18. For 1987, however, see above (1/10 is available).
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Post by jimjterrell4210 on Dec 6, 2021 21:10:57 GMT -5
Is it safe to ask which frozen-week charts have or have not been used on the VJ Big 40 so far?
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Post by jgve1952 on Dec 7, 2021 6:18:22 GMT -5
Frozen charts are exact duplicates of the previous week, so I would say yes, and it happened in 2017 with 12-25-82/1-1-83 and previously in 2016 with 12-24-88/12-31/88. No last week of December specials occurred either year.
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Post by jgve1952 on Dec 7, 2021 8:11:44 GMT -5
I'd say 1987, despite not having aired in the longest, would actually be the best candidate for that - 1981 has two January weeks unplayed, but the first of those is 1/17, while the earliest 1989 week yet unplayed isn't until 2/18. For 1987, however, see above (1/10 is available). I think 1987 will be played either on 12-17 or 12-24. As you mentioned it is the year longest without play. I realize that 1987 was played on 12-18-20, but 1986 was also played the same week a year apart. I would favor 1981, but they don't seem to do back-to-back years. I am thinking 1981 will be on 12-24-21.
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Post by Mike on Dec 7, 2021 9:58:03 GMT -5
Is it safe to ask which frozen-week charts have or have not been used on the VJ Big 40 so far? Frozen charts are exact duplicates of the previous week, so I would say yes, and it happened in 2017 with 12-25-82/1-1-83 and previously in 2016 with 12-24-88/12-31/88. No last week of December specials occurred either year. I would answer this just a bit differently, in that when Jim's asking for "frozen week charts", those would refer to the likes of 1/3/81, 1/2/82, 1/1/83, and so forth. (1980 actually doesn't have any within the calendar year, nor does 1985.) In this context, these are the ones that I would say have been done so far: 1/4/86 (twice) and 12/31/88. While 1/4/86 has the chart of 12/28/85 frozen, the only two times that chart has aired are as the first airings of 2013 and 2014 - never as the last airing of any given year. (In contrast, the latest 1985 chart to have aired has been 12/21/85, also twice.) It doesn't seem right to me to count January airings in the 12/28/85 column. (For that matter, the Friday for the 2013 airing matches the frozen week date: January 4.) 12/31/88 is different. 12/24 was the last chart to air in 2013 - the last Friday that year was December 27, so while one could, technically, wonder whether the chart week credited would be 12/24 or 12/31 if those had been separate charts...fact is, they weren't, so it just makes more sense to credit a chart date of 12/24 as having aired, since it's closer. The reason 12/31/88 has one listed to its credit, is due to the way 2017 ended: The last two Fridays were December 22 and 29. December 22 had 12/24/83 aired, and December 29 had 1988 aired - given that date and given that Big 40 has never, to date, aired charts that have the same date back to back (I.E. there has never been something like 11/22/80 followed by 11/22/86), I list its credit as the frozen week of 12/31/88. Other charts I will mention: - 12/25/82. Its one airing was as the last one for 2016, whose last Friday was December 30 - you could say that 1/1/83 is, technically, the closer date, but I credited the unfrozen December date since this did air at the end of December rather than the start of January.
- 12/24/83. 1983's frozen week is 12/31, but the three times this chart has aired have been for the Fridays of: December 26, 2014, December 25, 2015, and December 22, 2017 - none of which warrant crediting the frozen week with having been played instead.
- 12/22/84. 1984's frozen week is 12/29, but the three times this chart has aired have been for the Fridays of: December 20, 2013, December 21, 2018, and December 25, 2020 - only the last is even close to where I could, arguably, credit the frozen week.
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