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Post by woolebull on Jan 3, 2020 0:09:41 GMT -5
The songs were all ranked on the chart according to weeks at #1, which is how "Sucker" was #4 - it spent eight weeks on top. Thus, I have a feeling that "Blurred Lines" was originally at #2 (as it had been #1 for ten weeks, like both songs on either side of it), but the decision to exclude the song from the list for whatever reason was made before the show was sent out. Therefore, they had to voice a new #2 segment on the run, so there wasn't much time to find another song. Perhaps they went with "Glad You Came", as it was #1 song of its respective year. Sucker did not spend eight weeks at number 1. It spent 5 non consecutive weeks at number one. And "Closer" spent nine weeks at number one. The songs were definitely not charted by most weeks at number one.
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Post by mkarns on Jan 3, 2020 0:13:53 GMT -5
The songs were all ranked on the chart according to weeks at #1, which is how "Sucker" was #4 - it spent eight weeks on top. Thus, I have a feeling that "Blurred Lines" was originally at #2 (as it had been #1 for ten weeks, like both songs on either side of it), but the decision to exclude the song from the list for whatever reason was made before the show was sent out. Therefore, they had to voice a new #2 segment on the run, so there wasn't much time to find another song. Perhaps they went with "Glad You Came", as it was #1 song of its respective year. Sucker did not spend eight weeks at number 1. It spent 5 non consecutive weeks at number one. And "Closer" spent nine weeks at number one. The songs were definitely not charted by most weeks at number one. On AT40 CHR, "Sucker" hit #1 for five straight weeks, slipped behind Sam Smith and Normani's "Dancing With a Stranger" for one week, then returned to the top for three more weeks for a total of eight.
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Post by woolebull on Jan 3, 2020 0:16:03 GMT -5
Sucker did not spend eight weeks at number 1. It spent 5 non consecutive weeks at number one. And "Closer" spent nine weeks at number one. The songs were definitely not charted by most weeks at number one. On AT40 CHR, "Sucker" hit #1 for five straight weeks, slipped behind Sam Smith and Normani's "Dancing With a Stranger" for one week, then returned to the top for three more weeks for a total of eight. Yes, you are both right. I slipped on that one...I was thinking just the five straight weeks. I graciously concede my error! And it does bring up a valid point...if it was ranked by weeks at number one, then maybe slipping in the 2012 number one song of the year (which only had a couple of weeks at the top and therefore would not be a part of the countdown) in Blurred Lines place does make sense. I like that theory!
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Post by woolebull on Jan 3, 2020 0:50:33 GMT -5
One problem with "weeks at number one" being what they used to make this chart: The song that was at number one before, "Sucker", Ariana Grande's "Seven Rings", spent five weeks at number one. Which means it should have been on the top 40 somewhere high on the chart, no lower than number 20 or so. It did not appear.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 3, 2020 1:06:15 GMT -5
As mentioned before, I am curious what was the methodology used to compile the decade's top hits. If weeks at #1 was a factor...well, we've illustrated some examples already which rule that out. Maybe it was part of the formula, but not much of it. I like many of the songs that made the top 40, but some of their rankings don't seem to, well, fit.
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Post by robert on Jan 3, 2020 4:21:54 GMT -5
If you take a closer look at AT40 Hot AC end-of-the-decade countdown, it still seems that there could have been several aspects taken into calculation, if it was based on their own tabulation, suchlike weeks at No.1, weeks in the Top 10 and weeks in the Top 40. Definitely, the two biggest hits on the HAC countdown were only two hits that both spent 15 weeks at number one on the show, at #2 High Hopes and at #1 Girls Like You. Ed Sheeran’s Shape Of You at #4 spent 12 weeks at no1 while his Perfect at #5 spent just 10 weeks at #1. I don’t know exactly which songs spent how many weeks in all those 3 aforementioned aspects on the show, but different weights could have been given to something like this or similar. The lowest ranking Blow Me (One Last Kiss) at #40 spent 5 weeks at #1 according to Ryan. The number one song of 2010 Hey, Soul Sister finished at #23 - and if some of you knows how many weeks spent at the top - it spent 102 weeks on Top 40 according to Ryan, probably making it the longest charting hit of the decade. Thus, it seems the weeks on chart were not the most important factor... and by the way, I guess I have seen on Mediabase the song with the most spins for 2019 on Hot AC chart being Sucker, but as you know it landed only at #4 on AT40 Hot AC of 2019.
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Post by robert on Jan 3, 2020 4:24:34 GMT -5
Also, looking at both Hot AC decade end and year end countdowns, I Don’t Care finished at #8 and Sucker at #4 on Top 40 of 2019, but Sucker was at #33 and I Don’t Care at 32 on Top 40 of the 2010’s
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jan 6, 2020 11:26:15 GMT -5
Others have noted the tribute that Ryan did for Casey of the decade end show. I thought it was a great tribute: playing the opening intro to the 7/4/70 show, and then following it with Wiz Khalifa's "See You Again". I get it was five and a half years in the making, but I thought it was one of the best tributes I have ever heard on American Top 40 from any era. Kudos to Ryan and the AT 40 staff for that wonderful tribute. It was an excellent tribute. However, it wasn't "five and a half years in the making." Ryan paid tribute to Casey on the weekend after Casey passed away.
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Post by Scott Lakefield on Jan 6, 2020 11:28:44 GMT -5
8 weeks at #1 and "Apologize" is relegated to an extra?! Ryan says that in the first season of American Idol(2002), he said people could text their response and no one knew what texting was! In its infancy back then. To hear Ryan say "We Belong Together" spent 12 weeks at #1, longer than any #1 song in AT40 history and then play it at #15 seems odd. And that is wrong now that I think about it. "The Sign" spent 13 weeks at #1 in 1994. I would think that because AT 40 used Radio and Record charts for its gauge (or at least from the inception of R and R from 1973 forward), "The Sign"' and its run would not be a part of their chart history. However...Donna Lewis would so Ryan should at least have said that "We Belong Together" tied the mark. Since Donna Lewis was even mentioned on the show, it would have made sense. Something I just thought of: if AT now uses R and R stats, then why was "You Light Up My Life" named the biggest song of the 70's on the 00 decade special? Wasn't "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" the biggest song of the 70's on R and R? AT40 in 2020 strictly uses R&R data for the era before Ryan took over. That also explains the "error" in the decade-end show that I'm surprised no one else has pointed out yet: "Do the Bartman" did not hit #9 on AT40 as Ryan said it did. In fact, it never hit AT40. It did, however, go to #9 on "Casey's Top 40"/R&R.
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Post by bellbm on Jan 6, 2020 14:46:04 GMT -5
Does anyone still trade shows? I'd love to get a copy of the HAC version of the Top 40 of the decade.
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Post by woolebull on Jan 6, 2020 23:08:34 GMT -5
Others have noted the tribute that Ryan did for Casey of the decade end show. I thought it was a great tribute: playing the opening intro to the 7/4/70 show, and then following it with Wiz Khalifa's "See You Again". I get it was five and a half years in the making, but I thought it was one of the best tributes I have ever heard on American Top 40 from any era. Kudos to Ryan and the AT 40 staff for that wonderful tribute. It was an excellent tribute. However, it wasn't "five and a half years in the making." Ryan paid tribute to Casey on the weekend after Casey passed away. You are absolutely correct, Scott. I was being more tongue in cheek with my response because it seems that many people think Ryan ignores the history of the show. In fact, I have been more than pleased with the many times Casey has been acknowledged over the years. For him to take the time to dedicate an entire song to Casey in the decade end show continues to show Ryan's reverence to Casey and the show's history.
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Post by adam31 on Jan 7, 2020 14:53:47 GMT -5
I've never listened to a full Ryan Seacrest show since he took over. But his tribute to Casey earned a listen from me to any of the All-Decade shows. Anywhere I can still catch these? I Heart Radio Channel? EDIT: I checked out the I Heart Radio channel for current AT40 and someone named "Sabrina Carpenter" is hosting. I don't know who she is because I'm old . The music isn't bad though and she is doing a good job. There are a lot of listeners asking her questions, I would have to say I am glad AT40 is being passed on to a new generation of listeners who may be as excited to hear it as we were when Casey and Shadoe were on.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 7, 2020 19:36:41 GMT -5
adam31 - we must be close to the same age. I feel old sometimes too. I still try to keep up with today's music, but my interest in past shows (primarily 1970s-early 2000s) takes up a good chunk of my free time. I first heard of Sabrina Carpenter in 2014. She was born in 1999 (oh, to be that young again), so that makes her 20 years old at the recording of the show, to start 2020. Might be a reason why she was selected? (She mentioned her age at the beginning of the show, so it's certainly possible.) AT40's guest hosts have been artists with current or recent hits. Some don't exactly have a radio persona; but it gives them another platform to connect with their fans (as we've heard throughout this show and others). I suppose this particular topic could go in the "AT40 Guest Host" thread. But I think there's still some great music out there today...just my opinion, of course. But I like a lot of different music. I'll also probably devote more time and energy to the AT40 shows. Was devoting more time in the previous 2-3 years to CT40 and ACC Rewind, but those aren't available online anymore.
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Post by DJ Particle on Jan 8, 2020 2:58:28 GMT -5
I've never listened to a full Ryan Seacrest show since he took over. But his tribute to Casey earned a listen from me to any of the All-Decade shows. Anywhere I can still catch these? I Heart Radio Channel? EDIT: I checked out the I Heart Radio channel for current AT40 and someone named "Sabrina Carpenter" is hosting. I don't know who she is because I'm old . The music isn't bad though and she is doing a good job. There are a lot of listeners asking her questions, I would have to say I am glad AT40 is being passed on to a new generation of listeners who may be as excited to hear it as we were when Casey and Shadoe were on. Carpenter is a singer/actress. Her biggest chart impact on AT40 was in early 2017 with a minor hit called "Thumbs". IMHO it should have been a bigger hit than it was. I love that song. AT40 in general has evolved to the tastes of its current audience. It's not like the AT40 of old (most songs only get intro'd or outro'd, rarely both), but that doesn't mean it's *bad* by any means. It's more fast-paced to keep up with lower attention spans. This is shown in the music as well, as pop songs are heading back to running times more comparable to the 1970s, so less songs end up getting cut for time these days, even with the "AT40 Extras" dotting the show (usually 2 [and an optional third] per hour). Ryan Seacrest brings an energy back to the show harkening back to late-1970s Casey or 1990s Shadoe, and it works for what it needs to be in the modern world. Sadly, iHeart doesn't air reruns of the revival AT40 yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if we see a "the 2000s" dedicated channel in the near future [which would likely start with 1998, at least until they can get rights to CT40 and/or Shadoe AT40 hashed out]. After all, we started getting 1980s reruns in what? 2005? 2006?. EDIT: They *could* just separate the 6 years of Casey as "Casey Kasem's American Top 40: The Milennium". Hmm.. idea?
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 8, 2020 8:36:21 GMT -5
I think KQQL (Twin Cities) was the first station, or one of the very first, to start airing the AT40 re-run shows in 2006.
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