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Post by snarfdude on Aug 2, 2010 14:52:54 GMT -5
I think their (WRIP) sound quality is at least as good as anything I've found via streaming. I also like that they seem not to be a giant media-conglomerate-owned station. They play the optional extras, I like the weather-guy thing before the show comes back in. I just hope they keep playing AT40 the 80s. For streaming, yes, it's certainly not bad. I guess you have to understand the often substantial amount of compression and limitation used for commerical FM radio to make this loud (often called the "loudness wars" in the industry!) Most people are so used to it, they obviously don't notice it. My ears have show program discs to reference for both the 70's and 80s shows, so yes, I do notice a difference. As we know however, this is often the only source for a lot of the fans, so that's what you listen to. The quality is far from great on satellite radio for the 70's, but it suits me fine for casual listening. most of the processing will hide the limitations of the vinyl source material. these discs were meant to be played once or a few times at the most, putting 24 mins or more on one side/disc, over the standard of a 20 min LP....you'll only get so much out of something like that.
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Post by snarfdude on Aug 1, 2010 7:49:58 GMT -5
WRIP runs the show 7-11 am atlantic, so I might try starting to catch it starting next week...it's one time thing, no reruns...dang...
The station is heavily compressed, but no worse then most north american FM's. I think that hides the flaws and limitations of the source program discs a bit.
any source for cues?
I'm also laughing at the on air line up, the midday guy does liners for a community station here in Halifax..just funny how I stumbled on it.
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Post by snarfdude on Jul 30, 2010 14:17:15 GMT -5
stupid question.....I'd actually love to here these 70's shows off the CD's or mp3's....as i'm curious as to what kind of quality the source material actually is. the sirius/XM internet stream is so compressed it's hard to really tell.....anyoen actually has access to this stuff? even 1 segment would be interesting to hear!
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Post by snarfdude on Jul 18, 2010 11:44:48 GMT -5
larry harris's book about casablanca records "and party every day" implies that there was some bias and coersion by casablanca on the billboard charts during that era. I'm not surprised if indeed this was the case, given the power in sales and radio airplay having a # 1 record on BB would have.
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Post by snarfdude on Jul 4, 2010 8:19:37 GMT -5
siriius/XM's 70s channel is actually running the july 4th special from 1978 this weekend. first I have heard them doing anything but running show 1 on july 4th. I've heard show 1 before, so it's to nice to hear something else.
speaking of show 1, given it took 18 hours to cut it, I would expect it to be far from perfect. If your familar with radio production at all, doing everything "live" as you hear it can eat up time if you're striving for perfection and make a mistake and have to do a full segment with music over again. i've done it on occasion.
When they moved to voicetracking the casey elements, if you flub a line, you can do a retake and it's done. the final takes can be mixed with the music and jingles to a master reel.
Voice tracks today are commonplace on anything you hear on air, from ryan seacrest to john tesh and donny osmond to your local radio station. unless you know they;re live, they're likely voice track the show, and the computer puts the mujsic and VT's together on air. You even download the VT's over the internet.
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Post by snarfdude on Jul 3, 2010 22:31:00 GMT -5
likely not. only 2 stations in nova scotia have ever run AT40 during the casey years, CKBW in Bridgewater, and CKEC in New Glasgow. CKEC now runs it with ryan in the old 2-6 PM slot like casey. CKBW no longer runs it. here in Halifax, Z103.5 runs ryan from 5-9 pm sundays. before that, CT40 ran for about a year from 1989-90 on CFDR after they changed format from easy listening to top 40.
In this neck of the woods most people wouldn't know who casey is....I had a nice arrangement going with the PD of CKEC at the time, where every couple of months he would mail me a couple of show program discs as it wasn't here in town. I spent the whole 4 hours everytime I got them listening to each show. I still have them. They kept everything they ran....I cringe to think what happened to them. CKBW sold them off for charity I remember one year. I have seen them pop up in used record stores once in a blue moon...
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Post by snarfdude on Jul 3, 2010 19:57:25 GMT -5
where exactly is the link for the pics? I saw the videos...but nothing else....
I'm in the process of getting a copy of the show mp3's and cues.
Listening off air is a last resort for me. The quality of overprocessed FM grinds on my brain and I was in the industry for 16 years. You tend to like the perks that something like that gives you.
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Post by snarfdude on Jun 28, 2010 20:15:22 GMT -5
Most kids have no idea to make a phone call with a dial telephone eithier. Things do change. That's why there's a thing as nostalgia.
The golden era of the countdown shows was the 80s to me. There was a bumper crop of At40 clones, and all have died except Rick Dees WT40.
The fragmentation of charts are a reflection of how technology has changed the way we listen to music. from downloads, to brick and mortar music store sales, things have come a long way in the last 25 years. most music store chains have died here in canada, HMV survives, but how much longer?
Countdown shows maybe a dying trend, but time will tell. Hopefully AT40 will last another 40 years.
The trend these days is more towards celebrity shenanigans and foolishness then sincere unique story that Kasem has trademarked for decades. It's the world of the superficial for the younger demo. If you want the show to survive, you have to adjust.
As said before, Seacrest was the right choice at the time for AT40's new host. Now, I'm not so sure. Even within a tight format, you can have a degree of sincerity and connection with the listener. I don't hear that within seacrest. he sounds more like a superficial rick dees, using dees style of laugh at anything interns in the background of the studio that comes off really lame. It's not unique. With Casey, AT 40 was unique. it's lost that. Seacrest really sounds like he's just getting the job done and wants to move to the next task of the day.
Seacrest is too busy trying to be the next Dick Clark, that quality can go in the dumper for quantity. He's doing the KIIS morning show, he's voice tracking the 4 hour 5 day a week "On the Air with Ryan Seacrest" about 4 breaks/hour, and obviously AT40, and all his TV hosting chores. I think the guy will burn himself in the not too distant future. Casey stuck primarily to one show. Even Dick Clark wasn't this bad.
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Post by snarfdude on Jun 27, 2010 20:14:04 GMT -5
so those custom liners on sirius are likely older then the sprint ad.
I'm really surprised that sprint would use him, given how seacrest has taken over for the younger demo. Not that i'm complaining, but if they're targetting the 20 somethings, I would think it would be seacrest.
still good to see him though. Sorry to hear how his voice has gone...i listen to the 70's stuff every weekend in the car. At Least we do have the old shows.
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Post by snarfdude on Jun 27, 2010 20:04:59 GMT -5
rather odd report given it's AT40, but still fun to hear..... a quick google search found a my space page if you want to hear more: www.myspace.com/thevegetableorchestrathis is goofy enough for my podcast show....
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Post by snarfdude on Mar 11, 2010 21:10:50 GMT -5
that's really opening a can of subjective worms.
better sound card is a matter of opinion. it depends on what you want to do with it, how good your system is, how good your ears are, your speakers, the room you listen in and what you're recording.
no card is better then it's source. if you record a 78 record with lots of scratches, that's what you get. regardless of what card you use.
these days, any card should give you reasonably good quality for playback. for recording, the cheaper cards usually never have good mic preamp inputs, so anything should go through a line level.
I've had great luck with soundblaster products in my machines...high quality cards for those on a budget, like me....then again, my internet stream is using a $20 generic card for audio playback, as it passes through a mixer before encoding, and the card sounds great for what it's doing.
like I say, it's all very subjective.
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Post by snarfdude on Feb 19, 2010 21:46:45 GMT -5
total recorder I use for recording any audio stream, and is also good for a basic recorder for when you want to keep computer resources low. It should record anything going through your computer's sound card.
for editing, adobe audition, as it's a broadcast standard these days. poor man's pro tools LOL! sound forge is also a standard to a degree, but audition has multitrack functions built in.
for freeware editors, audacity is hands down a standard personally and professionally. i'm not crazy about it, but you can't beat the price when $$$ count.
the trick for a lot of software is making sure in windows mixer that you are recording to whatever software your using. it can be a pain, but it's critical that you do have things set in the mixer correctly (assuming your using windows) or the software won't work obviously.
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Post by snarfdude on Feb 4, 2010 12:00:59 GMT -5
the instrumental logo jingle using in 1984 ranks up there. they didn't use it that much, but I have a few shows from 1984 that I bought from a guy in the US around that time specifically for that. back when they were selling for $10. LOL!
the late 80's (circa 1989) jingle pkg and theme also sticks out....noted on the page as from 1989-93. one jingle in particular used on segment outros with the lyrics "alll over the world....shadoe counts em down" it's not included in the mp3 montage on this site.
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Post by snarfdude on Feb 4, 2010 11:52:00 GMT -5
True, Casey had recurring roles at in season's 1 and 2 of quincy (available on DVD) and played a villain haunting a movie studio lot (the universal lot) on a two parter episode on the 2nd season of the hardy boys/nancy drew TV series. I'm sure IMDB would tell you more, but those are two I can think of off the top of my head.
Documentary style would certainly be more marketting friendly, and it doesn't even have to be a major motion picture. What maybe more practical is a 2 hour doc style TV movie. One was done a couple years ago on the Big 8, CKLW and was incredibly well done. Given AT40's history, I think it deserves that at least. This maybe the time to strike as AT40 reruns on satelite radio have been on for a few years, generating new interest.
I'm more for the actual production side of the show, equipments specfics and their production processes, which was touched on in the book, but didn't really go into detail.
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Post by snarfdude on Jan 31, 2010 20:55:42 GMT -5
I was listening to a bit of this week's one on Sirius 1/26/74 # 741-4, and noticed how terribly hissy it was on the online stream, and very compressor "breathy". Kinda wonder what processing sirius puts on the shows. I can't see it being shannon's transfers, and I know the discs are fairly clean, as I have a few original shows from the 70's. The poorer quality of the satellite channel hides a lot of it, so it stuck out when I heard it online.
funny thing is, the sirius jingles are fine, just the show's program audio.
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