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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Oct 30, 2011 14:37:16 GMT -5
With many of the rebroadcasts of AT40: The 80s already aired (though there are still quite a few to go), one thing comes to mind:
Do you think we will ever get to hear AT40: The 90's? If they do plan on airing AT40: The 90's, I think they should air the 5 full years on the air (1990 through 1994), but not air January 1995 as that was a sad period for AT40 fans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 15:22:42 GMT -5
Essentially I think they'd have to do Casey's Top 40, not air any shows for 2 months or so from 98 and then pick up with AT40 from there.
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Post by briguy52748 on Oct 30, 2011 15:32:58 GMT -5
I see no problem with "Casey's Countdowns: The 90s" ... AND including January and February 1998 (if that's the two months paul refers to that would be skipped).
Absolutely include January 1998 and February 1998. If only because there are a couple weeks in Janaury that I definitely want to hear. Those being Jan. 24 and Jan. 31.
Then air one of those two programs the same weekend as Jan. 28, 1989 (a Shadoe Stevens show) and an early AT40 from Jan. 23, 1971.
Seriously, though ... it is time to dust off the Casey's Top 40s from 1990-1998 and the AT40s from March 1998-December 1999.
Brian
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Post by briguy52748 on Oct 30, 2011 15:38:42 GMT -5
And as for the rest of the 1980s -- Aug. 13, 1988 through Dec. 23, 1989 -- get your minds out of the clouds, admit that Shadoe Stevens was host for the last 15-1/2 months of the decade and air those shows.
Just rename the package "AT40: The 80s" -- and keeping with tradition, the 70s package would be similarly re-named "AT40: The 70s," without Casey's name.
Simple solution, and then just have Larry explain to folks that Shadoe hosted the given program from late 1988-1989. Just like he does with the October 1978-December 1979 programs originally being four-hour shows, "... so let's pick up with Hour 2."
Brian
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 15:39:45 GMT -5
I said 2 months because I can't remember when Kasem left and it became the Top 40 Countdown. Those shows you would never hear. I thought it was 2 months but for however long he wasnt hosting is essentially what I'm saying. If they won't air guest hosted shows when he was out for a week on the 70s ans 80s versions they sure as hell won't air those.
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Post by jaxxalude on Oct 30, 2011 15:44:43 GMT -5
Didn't WW1 destroy the masters? I seem to think I read about it somewhere.
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Oct 30, 2011 16:32:25 GMT -5
I said 2 months because I can't remember when Kasem left and it became the Top 40 Countdown. Those shows you would never hear. I thought it was 2 months but for however long he wasnt hosting is essentially what I'm saying. If they won't air guest hosted shows when he was out for a week on the 70s ans 80s versions they sure as hell won't air those. I definitely remember "Top 40 Countdown" - it only lasted 2 or 3 weeks, if I remember correctly. The current run of AT40 didn't kick off until sometime in March 1998. So "Top 40 Countdown" - the name - was uber-short-lived because of a transition from Casey Kasem's show CT40 back to AT40. I am pretty confident Casey's Top 40 - the name - continued through early-February at the earliest. Plus, let us not forget that Casey Kasem was hosting two countdown programs in the 1990s - CT40 and Casey's Countdown. It would be up to Westwood One to allow Premiere Radio Networks access to CT40 and other countdowns that Casey Kasem hosted. Premiere Radio Networks only have the rights to the American Top 40 name, I think. As for the AT40 shows without Casey Kasem, are they unairable nowadays because of lack of clearances by the announcers involved?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2011 16:50:07 GMT -5
I said 2 months because I can't remember when Kasem left and it became the Top 40 Countdown. Those shows you would never hear. I thought it was 2 months but for however long he wasnt hosting is essentially what I'm saying. If they won't air guest hosted shows when he was out for a week on the 70s ans 80s versions they sure as hell won't air those. I definitely remember "Top 40 Countdown" - it only lasted 2 or 3 weeks, if I remember correctly. The current run of AT40 didn't kick off until sometime in March 1998. So "Top 40 Countdown" - the name - was uber-short-lived because of a transition from Casey Kasem's show CT40 back to AT40. I am pretty confident Casey's Top 40 - the name - continued through early-February at the earliest. Plus, let us not forget that Casey Kasem was hosting two countdown programs in the 1990s - CT40 and Casey's Countdown. It would be up to Westwood One to allow Premiere Radio Networks access to CT40 and other countdowns that Casey Kasem hosted. Premiere Radio Networks only have the rights to the American Top 40 name, I think. As for the AT40 shows without Casey Kasem, are they unairable nowadays because of lack of clearances by the announcers involved? The current run began March 28-29, 1998. Locally it was the 29th. Easy for me to pinpoint because as a former wrestling fan I remember it started the same day as Wrestlemania 14.
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Post by mkarns on Oct 30, 2011 17:32:00 GMT -5
I said 2 months because I can't remember when Kasem left and it became the Top 40 Countdown. Those shows you would never hear. I thought it was 2 months but for however long he wasnt hosting is essentially what I'm saying. If they won't air guest hosted shows when he was out for a week on the 70s ans 80s versions they sure as hell won't air those. I definitely remember "Top 40 Countdown" - it only lasted 2 or 3 weeks, if I remember correctly. The current run of AT40 didn't kick off until sometime in March 1998. So "Top 40 Countdown" - the name - was uber-short-lived because of a transition from Casey Kasem's show CT40 back to AT40. I am pretty confident Casey's Top 40 - the name - continued through early-February at the earliest. Plus, let us not forget that Casey Kasem was hosting two countdown programs in the 1990s - CT40 and Casey's Countdown. It would be up to Westwood One to allow Premiere Radio Networks access to CT40 and other countdowns that Casey Kasem hosted. Premiere Radio Networks only have the rights to the American Top 40 name, I think. As for the AT40 shows without Casey Kasem, are they unairable nowadays because of lack of clearances by the announcers involved? The last Casey-hosted CT40 aired Feb. 21, 1998. For the next two weeks (2/28 and 3/7), David Perry guest hosted, as he regularly had for the last five years, and still called it Casey's Top 40. Then, as it was clear that Casey was setting AT40 back up and wouldn't be back, WW1 aired two weeks of "The Top 40" on 3/14 and 3/21/98, apparently with an eye toward making its own competing countdown, which didn't happen. The following week (3/28/98) Casey returned with AT40 on AMFM Radio Networks and there was no more Westwood One countdown. I believe that Premiere now owns the rights to Casey's Top 40 and while WW1 may have destroyed the masters, as indicated, there should be playable copies of most, and likely all, of Casey's countdowns in existence. So theoretically they quite likely can be aired, though there may be other issues that need working out. I think the best approach would be to play CT40 for the duration of its existence and then add the 1998-99 AT40s, since it would all be Casey and would sound more consistent to listeners than playing different hosts, such as Casey one week and Shadoe the next (maybe that's why they don't play guest hosted 70s or 80s shows.) Maybe they could do a trial run of CT40s from 1989 as part of the 80s package?
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Post by Mike on Oct 31, 2011 9:48:46 GMT -5
And as for the rest of the 1980s -- Aug. 13, 1988 through Dec. 23, 1989 -- get your minds out of the clouds, admit that Shadoe Stevens was host for the last 15-1/2 months of the decade and air those shows. They have made at least one acknowledgement through the current series already; back when they aired July 16, 1988, Larry Morgan's intro to "Sweet Child O' Mine" said it'd be announced at #1, "by the second host of AT40 - Shadoe Stevens". His closing credits for March 14, 1987 also called it American Top 40: The 80s rather than Casey Kasem's American Top 40: The 80s. I think there was a bit of speculation when that aired that maybe they were testing for when non-Casey shows would air (though since that was produced by Lori Kremming rather than Toby James Petty, it could've been a show they had ready to air prior to this year before switching it out for a different one).
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Post by matt on Oct 31, 2011 11:40:13 GMT -5
***OK, so question for anyone on the boards that would know (maybe Pete B, Scott L, Jimmy D, or otherwise?) what the story is with the current legal rights to Casey's Top 40 shows? I have been under the impression that WW1 still owned those, which is why they haven't gone into syndication of any kind yet.
If Premiere really is the owner of the rights to the Casey's Top 40 shows, I would almost be surprised if there weren't some arrangement to rerun the shows in syndication in the near future. Let's face it, the 90's are becoming the "new oldies"!
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Oct 31, 2011 14:07:58 GMT -5
If anyone's interested, I have a Facebook group "Casey Kasem and Shadoe Stevens: The 90s". If we could get enough people to join and contact Premiere, letting them know of our interest in 90s shows, that may help some. I don't know, but it couldn't hurt. Especially, now since old Rick Dees shows from the 90s are being broadcast.
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Post by 80sfan on Oct 31, 2011 20:24:19 GMT -5
I'm skeptical about other hosts, but I'll believe it when I hear it replayed.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Oct 31, 2011 21:00:59 GMT -5
Thinking back to the time when XM and Premiere announced their decisions to re-air old AT40 shows from the 1970s and 1980s, I and many others had given up hope that we'd ever hear them again, although there had been rumors that they were considering the decision followed by several instances of no action at all. Our hopes had been raised by the airing of Flashback and the Dec 2002-Feb 2003 airings of AT40 from the 80s on XM and it took more than 3 years before our hopes came true. Something tells me that something similar could happen before the decision to broadcast 90s shows (either Shadoe or Casey or some combination of the two) is made (IF IT EVER IS).
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Post by jaxxalude on Oct 31, 2011 21:37:10 GMT -5
I think there's also the issue that Top 40 wasn't exactly going through its best phase during the early 90's - quite the contrary. As the recent extensive coverage (among other things) of the 20th anniversary of Nirvana's Nevermind will attest, what many now consider "the sound of then" was mainly in the Alternative, Urban and Country formats. Top 40 struggled a lot during this period and took some time to adapt to the new circumstances. And when it finally started to (around 1995), it was when the Alternative Revolution had been finally and thoroughly co-opted by the mainstream.
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