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Post by 80sat40fan on Sept 28, 2014 10:08:47 GMT -5
If we can have lost classics from the 60s when Casey wasn't doing AT40 or CT40, why not have a lost classic thread from the 90s when he was counting them down from 40 to 1? It seems hard to believe that in a few months, songs which hit the Hot 100 in 1990 will be 25 years old!
Here's a song which was climbing from #66 to #58 on the 10/5/91 Hot 100 but wouldn't get any higher than #54. IMHO, It's one of the best sounding 70s style R&B songs not to be released in the 70s. It's by The Brand New Heavies, and it's called "Never Stop":
With station playlists being tighter in the 90s (less variety), many stations missed out on playing great songs from the AC or Hot AC charts, modern or album rock, country, rap and other genres. If anyone wants to add tunes from those charts or simply a Hot 100 tune which didn't make AT40 or CT40, that's great. We need to hear some of those forgotten tunes again.
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Post by 80sat40fan on Oct 6, 2014 19:32:40 GMT -5
Going back to the 10/10/92 Hot 100 chart for this one. A perfect example of a song which probably would have made the Top 20 under Billboard's former chart methodology but under the new criteria established in late 1991, it mustered a one notch move up to #50 with an eventual peak at #47. It's Swing Out Sister with "Am I The Same Girl":
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Post by jlthorpe on Oct 6, 2014 20:00:03 GMT -5
Great song. It peaked at #21 on R&R, so you're probably right about where it could have peaked without Soundscan.
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Post by mga707 on Oct 6, 2014 22:15:11 GMT -5
Going back to the 10/10/92 Hot 100 chart for this one. A perfect example of a song which probably would have made the Top 20 under Billboard's former chart methodology but under the new criteria established in late 1991, it mustered a one notch move up to #50 with an eventual peak at #47. It's Swing Out Sister with "Am I The Same Girl": The original version of this song was sung by Barbara Acklin and peaked at #79 on the Hot 100 in early 1969. If it sounds too familiar for a song that was not a hit, it's because the instrumental track charted a few months before the vocal version as "Soulful Strut" by Young-Holt Unlimited and reached #3 as 1968 turned into 1969. |
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Post by 1finemrg on Oct 7, 2014 5:13:38 GMT -5
Going back to the 10/10/92 Hot 100 chart for this one. A perfect example of a song which probably would have made the Top 20 under Billboard's former chart methodology but under the new criteria established in late 1991, it mustered a one notch move up to #50 with an eventual peak at #47. It's Swing Out Sister with "Am I The Same Girl": The original version of this song was sung by Barbara Acklin and peaked at #79 on the Hot 100 in early 1969. If it sounds too familiar for a song that was not a hit, it's because the instrumental track charted a few months before the vocal version as "Soulful Strut" by Young-Holt Unlimited and reached #3 as 1968 turned into 1969. Barbara Acklin's husband Eugene Record co-wrote the song. Eugene would have success during the 70s as leader of the Chi-Lites. Barbara Acklin would return the favor co-writing the #3 smash "Have You Seen Her" with Eugene. It was covered by MC Hammer, and was spending its last week in the top 40 on 10/6/90 having peaked at #4. Dusty Springfield also covered the song which was a minor hit in the UK. |
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Post by 1finemrg on Oct 12, 2014 17:36:01 GMT -5
From October 16, 1999 this one was in the middle of a 21 week chart run which would end up peaking at #49. Featured in the movie, "Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me" both the song and the artist I considered to be throwbacks to an earlier time. The song was a cover of a 1970 tune that reached #1 (and kept the Ides of March "Vehicle" from reaching the top spot). I always thought that the artist's style also reminded me of earlier times. I think he would have fit in quite well in the 70s when his mom, Roxie Roker appeared as Helen Willis each week on "The Jeffersons". American Woman - Lenny Kravitz |
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Post by 80sat40fan on Oct 12, 2014 18:13:02 GMT -5
My pick for this week's lost 90s classic is from the 10/17/98 chart. This song had a strange chart run. It entered the Hot 100 in August and peaked at #84. On this week's chart, it re-enters at #83 but would peak at #78 the next week. Then, in 1999, it re-enters yet again after it was featured in the movie, "She's All That", peaking at #76. Hard to think that this song never made it out of the bottom quarter of the Hot 100 but it never did. Here is Norman Quentin Cook... also known as Fatboy Slim... with "Rockafeller Skank" (and for those who don't know the song, I was unable to find the single version anywhere on YouTube which cuts out all of the "'bout now, 'bout now, 'bout now" part):
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 12, 2014 18:58:20 GMT -5
From October 16, 1999 this one was in the middle of a 21 week chart run which would end up peaking at #49. Featured in the movie, "Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me" both the song and the artist I considered to be throwbacks to an earlier time. The song was a cover of a 1970 tune that reached #1 (and kept the Ides of March "Vehicle" from reaching the top spot). I always thought that the artist's style also reminded me of earlier times. I think he would have fit in quite well in the 70s when his mom, Roxie Roker appeared as Helen Willis each week on "The Jeffersons". American Woman - Lenny KravitzNot exactly a lost hit. I just heard it the other day on the 10/9/99 AT40. Reached #19 in fact. Also heard it many times on the radio back then. Which kind of goes hand in hand with it reaching 19 since AT40 was based on R&R (airplay only) then. |
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Post by 80sat40fan on Oct 12, 2014 19:38:34 GMT -5
Not exactly a lost hit. I just heard it the other day on the 10/9/99 AT40. Reached #19 in fact. Also heard it many times on the radio back then. Which kind of goes hand in hand with it reaching 19 since AT40 was based on R&R (airplay only) then. dukelightning... Here is what will become interesting about this thread in comparison to the 70s and 80s threads. Most popular songs hit the Top 40 in the 70s and 80s. Lost classics featured on those threads didn't hit the Top 40 with some songs being more famous than others. So far, we're using the same idea here in the 90s thread... songs that didn't hit Billboard's Top 40. Once the chart conversion took place in November of 1991... things changed. Some songs which were Top 10 hits from 1992 - 1999 get zero airplay today while some songs that didn't crack the Top 40, like "American Woman", do receive airplay. It's going to be interesting highlighting some songs which didn't hit Billboard's Top 40 because some songs will be rather famous. If artists are gauged by how many Top 40 hits they had on Billboard, which is considered the authoritative source in music charts, then not making the Top 40 seems like a good measure for considering lost classics as those songs wouldn't be featured on a Top 40 countdown show using Billboard charts. Fragmentation of radio stations became big in the 90s so some songs which may not have hit the Top 40 may have been big on Hot AC, rock or other formats. |
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Post by 1finemrg on Oct 13, 2014 4:55:00 GMT -5
Not exactly a lost hit. I just heard it the other day on the 10/9/99 AT40. Reached #19 in fact. Also heard it many times on the radio back then. Which kind of goes hand in hand with it reaching 19 since AT40 was based on R&R (airplay only) then. dukelightning... Here is what will become interesting about this thread in comparison to the 70s and 80s threads. Most popular songs hit the Top 40 in the 70s and 80s. Lost classics featured on those threads didn't hit the Top 40 with some songs being more famous than others. So far, we're using the same idea here in the 90s thread... songs that didn't hit Billboard's Top 40. Once the chart conversion took place in November of 1991... things changed. Some songs which were Top 10 hits from 1992 - 1999 get zero airplay today while some songs that didn't crack the Top 40, like "American Woman", do receive airplay. It's going to be interesting highlighting some songs which didn't hit Billboard's Top 40 because some songs will be rather famous. If artists are gauged by how many Top 40 hits they had on Billboard, which is considered the authoritative source in music charts, then not making the Top 40 seems like a good measure for considering lost classics as those songs wouldn't be featured on a Top 40 countdown show using Billboard charts. Fragmentation of radio stations became big in the 90s so some songs which may not have hit the Top 40 may have been big on Hot AC, rock or other formats. Guessing if I had chosen the Foo Fighters "Learning To Fly", I would have been in the same boat. |
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 13, 2014 8:03:04 GMT -5
An illustration of the comment that some songs hit the top 10 but get zero airplay today can be found right here. I heard the AT40s from this week in 2002 and 2003 over the weekend and skipped 13 songs total in those 2 shows. While all of those skipped songs were rap and most of those hit the top 10, that was in R&R. If Billboard had been used, the total of rap songs would have likely been much higher. Not up on what is getting airplay from the last 20 years but I am guessing those songs are not getting played alongside the likes of Nickelback, Matchbox 20, Jessica Simpson, etc. on any given station.
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Post by 1finemrg on Oct 19, 2014 5:45:04 GMT -5
From October 20, 1990, this week's lost 90s classic was the last Hot 100 single from the guy whose snarl is second to only Elvis. The song had peaked at #52, and would end up spending 9 weeks in the hot 100. Last week, it was "American Woman". This week, we'll be more specific in terms of geography with a very good cover of a Doors classic. L A Woman - Billy Idol |
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Post by 80sat40fan on Oct 19, 2014 10:54:37 GMT -5
My pick for this week's lost 90s classic debuted at #84 20 years ago this week (10/22/94). While this song never got above #67, it spent 20 weeks on the Hot 100. Believe it or not, this song is this artist's only Hot 100 hit... pretty amazing when you consider he has sold almost 30 million albums nationwide. Here is Harry Connick Jr with "(I Could Only) Whisper Your Name":
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Post by jlthorpe on Oct 19, 2014 20:35:36 GMT -5
I remember WPLJ in New York playing the Harry Connick, Jr. song quite a bit at the time. It crossed my mind to post it myself, but decided not to (not a big enough fan of the song).
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Oct 20, 2014 14:43:43 GMT -5
On its way down the Hot AC chart this week, this former top 10 on Hot AC never made the pop top 40 or the top 40 of the Hot 100. However, it was used as a long distance dedication on AT40 with Shadoe in November 1994: "Love Is All Around" by Wet Wet Wet www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3gEkwhdXUE |
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