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Post by dukelightning on Sept 30, 2023 6:11:46 GMT -5
Did you mean CT40 when you wrote that #1 songs were not edited woolebull? It happened on AT40 a few times with "Fly Robin Fly" and "Jivetalkin" being a couple examples in 1975. Speaking of editing, a few edits on that last 3 hour show. Need the Ken Martin supersized edition of that show!
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Post by woolebull on Sept 30, 2023 16:46:42 GMT -5
I actually meant all of the shows, so thanks for the update on some of the older shows. Yeah, I am sure it happened quite a bit, but for some reason this was the first time it actually resonated with me. Would be curious to hear if "American Pie" was chopped from its original radio edit as well.
And yes, 9/30/78 was the epitome of why the show would need to move to four hours the next week. "MacArthur Park" in particular stood out for me. Would love to see what Mr. Martin could do with it!
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Post by michaelcasselman on Oct 1, 2023 8:28:44 GMT -5
9/30/78s been supersized already... just need to wait until it comes around again as an A show!
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Post by woolebull on Oct 1, 2023 9:39:11 GMT -5
Sweet! Missed it by just a year this time around...will be on the lookout for it next year.
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 2, 2023 18:49:09 GMT -5
I remember that "MacArthur Park" edit on that show! "American Pie" was only played as the 8+ minute version three times in its chart run. In the 1972 year end show, a 6 minute special radio version was played. Got a big edit on the 8/31/91 AT40 and it's a metal song but not the one you would think. "Mr. Sandman" is a debut record and in a shocker, the entire 4+ version was played! But my euphoria about that did not last long as in the same segment, an equally great song IMO "You Could Be Mine" was edited to barely over 2 minutes. That sticks out like a sore thumb as that is supposed to be a 6 minute song and I think they played it that long on most of the other shows it was in. Took a break from the countdown to hear the action packed official video with Mr. Terminator Arnold and the gunners. So I mentioned the other day that songs mentioning the artist's name in the lyrics increased in frequency in the early 90s. Got an example in this show but this is one where it is not just the singer(s) saying the artist name for the heck of it so to speak. In "Do Anything", the line 'just make me your natural selection' is obviously part of a logical sentence. Great song too! Show started with a song I was not familiar with that never surfaced on CT40, "Got a Love For You" by Jomanda. Good one there which hit #1 on the dance chart as Shadoe said. Every time Shadoe or Casey say anything about Firehouse, I have to question it. This time he said that they were formed by 2 rival bands in 1988. Wikipedia says they were formed in 1984. It's a 2 LDD show with the second one coming from a radio personality in Spain to Shadoe and the AT40 staff. He was sent to cover the Persian Gulf war and while sitting in a Kuwait hotel, Shadoe's voice came on the radio on the armed forces station. I had a feeling when I knew a second LDD was coming that it would be a countdown song that would be played and thought it could be the Scorpions' "Wind of Change". Turns out it was the hit before that one in the show, "Promise of a New Day". Change has been #1 for 10 weeks in Germany according to Shadoe. The first LDD came from Germany btw. Really liked Shadoe's listing of the top 10 Yogi Berra-isms like 'it gets late early around here', 'I usually take a 2 hour nap from 1 to 4' and the #1 'it's isn't/aint over 'til it's over' in connection with Lenny Kravitz' hit. Speaking of Yogi Berra, I have enjoyed hearing old radio broadcasts of baseball games that were being played about 50 years ago, the Mets last regular season game and the 1973 NLCS against the Reds. The names Lindsay Nelson, Ralph Kiner and Bob Murphy are almost as famous as Casey Kasem. They were the Mets play by play announcers in the 60s and 70s and Ralph Kiner is a lot like Yogi Berra. I learned a new word in reading about that trio and specifically Kiner. That is malapropism which is the mistaken use of a word in place of a similar sounding one. Kiner did that a lot! Nelson and Murphy were top notch announcers however. Back to the countdown and "Everything I Do" finishes out a 5 week month at #1 each week. Had not been done since September 1979 when "My Sharona" did it. That is courtesy of yours truly not Shadoe btw.
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Post by woolebull on Oct 4, 2023 17:52:32 GMT -5
It's funny you mention Firehouse and misinformation: I have heard over the years listening to shows or them being presented on TV that they are either from Charlotte, NC or Richmond, VA. Just checked Wiki and it says they formed in Richmond but moved to Charlotte. LOL, Firehouse: the most unlikely and unintentional enigma of the AT (or CT) Kingdom!
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 5, 2023 20:08:26 GMT -5
8/27/94 AT40 starts with a 14+ minute segment largely because of "All I Want is You" by U2. In that segment was "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World". Sure is strange hearing a song that I associate with the spring still in the countdown with summer winding down. Shadoe called "Fantastic Voyage" a rap remake. But in another show he had called it a half remake with the same melody but different words. Answering a question about the biggest #2 hit inspired by "Mr. Jones" spending 6 weeks at that position, he played a clip of "Waiting for a Girl Like You". I think Jones tied "Baker Street" for second place in AT40 history. Then he played Madonna saying that she had the most #2 hits with 8. Had an interview with Chris Cornell telling about an experience when he was in kindergarten. They had a point in the class when a song would be played. It was always a Disney themed song. But he had heard "Hey Jude" and loved it so brought it in. Not a good idea and he was punished! They were not ready for that. That was when his rock and roll career was born however! "Black Hole Sun" is a great song as are others on Superunknown like "Fell on Black Days". They should not be a one hit wonder! Those 2 slow jams from the summer of 1994, "Back and Forth" and "Anytime Anyplace" peaked 10 notches apart, the latter peaking higher. You wonder how much name recognition factored into that. By a whisker I prefer the former one.
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 6, 2023 16:45:35 GMT -5
8/22/92 CT40 has a segment with 2 songs that is all of 4:40. Consisting of the Soup Dragons' "Divine Thing" and the B-52s' "Good Thing". Then in the next segment the next song is 4:40 all by itself, "Tequila". Ridiculous! A couple songs after that was Firehouse who Casey mentioned was named Best Metal band by MTV. Definitely don't think of Firehouse when I think of metal bands but I suppose they qualify. Wonder how many more times Casey mentioned metal in connection with a current hit.* The advent of alternative was putting an end to metal bands though Bon Jovi and Aerosmith have several hits left in their careers at this point.
Wonder how many artists have been in the top 40 for exactly a year. Mariah is finishing up a 52 consecutive week stint on the charts this week.
Casey said that MJ was the first artist to get 4 top 10 hits from 4 different albums. In setting that up, he said that Fleetwood Mac was the first artist to get 4 top 10 hits from even one album. Thought he was going to go into more detail about artists getting 4 top 10 hits from an album. But he did not. His sister Janet should be the only artist with 2 such albums to that point in time. (She would get a third but not a 4th album with 4 top 10 hits on it).
*He intros "November Rain" by saying 'here's the heavy metal band Guns 'n Roses'. Yes that is a heavy metal band. It's hard to confuse them with Firehouse but that may be just me.
Not that important because I don't think this will ever come to fruition. But a few years ago I was trying to find a show where Casey said "Simply Irresistible" by Robert Palmer so that a fall 1988 show by Casey could be created. Never found a situation in a subsequent show when he said that. But I just found a Casey's Biggest hits tracks where he plays that song and says that(with the tracks attached to this show).
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 9, 2023 8:27:21 GMT -5
Hearing a year and a host I have not heard in several months, 1999 and Ed McMann. It is the 9/4/99 AT40 and this is a unique show with 2 debuts but none in the 30s. The show kicks off with Marc Anthony debuting at 40 and then the highest debut is "Mambo #5" at 28. This also creates an even more unique situation. In fact, it is the only time this happened at least during the time that Casey was doing AT40 or CT40. The first show in September has all the remaining #1 hits of that year in it. Mambo will hit the top in October, the song that knocks it out and will be at #1 the remainder of the year is already in the countdown and has been for 6 weeks(just hearing it now at #22), "Smooth". A rare extra in this show in connection with Ed telling a story about Prince having an auction outside his Paisley Park studios a few weeks earlier. People were disappointed that he was not there himself. They played an extended dance remix of "1999" in a segment with countdown songs before and after it making for an over 16 minute segment, definitely one of the longest in any show. "1999" did not chart at R&R in 1999 but I see that it did on the Hot 100. In fact it spent one week on the chart in 1999, at #40. Could this be the only top 40 hit in Hot 100 history at least in the 20th century that only spent one week on the chart? Casey can still be heard on this show or at least with the America's Biggest hits tracks included with it. One of those was about Selena and the movie about her after her death. That movie was a big boost to the career of J Lo. And my fave song by Jennifer is in this show, "If You Had My Love", another great production of the Dark Child.
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 11, 2023 8:37:18 GMT -5
9/1/90 CT40 and Casey mentions a term I have never been able to understand in saying that Don Henley is from a state in the southwest, Texas. Maine, New York and Pennsylvania are in the northeast, Florida, Georgia and Alabama are in the southeast and Washington, Idaho and Oregon are in the northwest. So how is Texas in the southwest?! I think of Arizona, Nevada and southern California when I think of the southwest, not Texas. Casey tells a story about how Taylor Dayne wanted a less raucous, toned down album to followup her previous release with its upbeat hits like "Tell it to My Heart". She had no success in the initial recording sessions toning down her sound. Then it was suggested that she cut her hair. It worked and she felt lighter in the studio! "Heart of Stone" is a great example of that toned down sound IMO. Good story about Bob Marley and a clip of one his songs in connection with Maxi Priest and his reggae influenced "Close to You". Great song as are the 2 songs represented by Faith No More opening for Billy Idol on tour as Casey said ("Epic" and "Cradle of Love"). Casey says that newcomer Mariah sounds like Whitney. He's right IMO about "Vision of Love". Not sure she has any other song that sounds as close to Whitney the rest of her career. It's an 0 for week with regard to other #1 hits being in the countdown. Of course this is when Casey only mentions the country and black charts. For the record, the AOR and New Rock(which I am guessing evolved into the Alternative) charts did not have #1 songs that were in the countdown either.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Oct 13, 2023 22:07:30 GMT -5
For some reason, I wanted to listen to 1989, so I loaded the AT40 from this weekend (10/14). In the intro to the #16 song, "It's Not Enough", by Starship, Shadoe made a slip; first he said it was up 5 notches. Then in that same intro, he said it was down 4 notches. Which was it, Shadoe? 🤔
It was down 4; I listened to the 10/7 show to find it. I had also just remembered that "One" by the Bee Gees tumbled from 21 to 39, which would make the "up 5 notches" for Starship rendered false.
Sounds like my copy of the 10/14 show is from CD; sounds very crisp and clean. 10/7 doesn't sound as pristine, though still good.
Shadoe raps in the intro to #7, "Bust A Move". 😂
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 14, 2023 8:00:57 GMT -5
I had decided that I would also hear a 1989 show a couple days ago when I heard what has to be my fave non-top 40 hit of that year on the radio. That would be "Fire Woman" by the Cult. Power pop and I looked up in R&R to see how close it came to reaching the top 40 there since the chart was still 40 positions then. (It stopped just short of the top 40 on the Hot 100). Turns out it was reported on 74 stations, the same as "Hooked on You" and 2 more than "Secret Rendezvous" both of which easily made the top 40, that data from the New & Active listings. So it definitely had some significant traction. The 9/9/89 AT40 is the show and it may have started with my fave song in the show, "Sowing the Seeds of Love". There are 6 debuts and 4 of them are by artists that will have multiple #1 hits either to their credit or that they produced. Probably not a record but the artists are Tears for Fears, Rolling Stones, Janet Jackson and Babyface. The latter did it with produced hits. Shadoe mentioned how he and LA Reid went from struggling musicians in 1985 with the Deele to having a hand in 11 top 10 hits to date. He also mentioned the 4 female solo artists that had 5 top 40 hits on one album before saying that Janet set the record with 6 from Control. "Miss You Much" debuts as the first hit from Rhythm Nation that will set a new record. He tells the oft told story of how Prince went from being booed off the stage having to dodge bottles being thrown as the lead act in the Stones' 1981 tour to superstar a few years later. The other bands in that tour were George Thorogood & the Destroyers and the J. Geils Band. It's not surprising that Prince was treated that way. Why they put an R&B artist in a tour with 3 rock bands is a head scratcher. Speaking of the Stones, before playing their hit, he said they had moved into third place among groups with the longest span of top 40 hits. They were at 25 years behind the Beach Boys 26 years and 3 months and Gladys Knight & the Pips 26 years and 9 months. On AT40 they will not surpass that but on CT40 they will as "Out of Tears" will get them into the top 40 in 1994, just over 30 years after their first top 40 hit. A song that sounds like it could have been produced by LA Reid and Babyface but was not is up there with Sowing as my fave in the show, "I Like It". This does not quite fit the re-released/re-recorded list of 1989 hits. But Shadoe does say that "Talk it Over" by Grayson Hugh was originally recorded in 1985 and was shopped around for a big name artist to record it. No one did and it became a hit for Grayson a few years later.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Oct 14, 2023 8:35:08 GMT -5
Warming up for this weekend's Country Top 40 with Fitz by listening to Bob Kingsley count 'em down from 10/14/2017. Can't believe it's been almost four years since his great voice has been silenced. Fitz has been phenomenal, very enjoyable to listen to.
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Post by dukelightning on Oct 17, 2023 14:59:26 GMT -5
9/5/92 AT40 started with a bunch of mostly AC songs. Was not until "People Everyday" and especially "Wishing on a Star" at the end of hour 1 that I heard what I consider to be great songs. In announcing a new station in the Quad cities, Shadoe mentioned PD Mark Elliott. That can't be the same man who subbed on AT40 and CT40 can it? Strange to even mention the name of a PD in the first place. Being the big Bond fan that I am, I thought I knew everything about Bond hits. Did not realize that "If You Asked Me To" is a remake of a Bond hit. But Celine Dion's hit is a remake of Patti Labelles' hit that came nowhere near the top 40 in 1989. It's from License to Kill. It's appropriate that it is a hit in 1992 since this is during the hiatus of Bond films, kind of filling the void. After License, there would not be another one until "GoldenEye" in 1995. Informative bit about Bryan Adams response to the Canadian content rules that limited his songs being played in Canada since he used an English producer on "Everything I Do". He denounced the policy. Shadoe pointed out that it was that same policy that helped get his career started. I knew that Elton was the only artist who had hit the top 40 in every year of AT40 history as Shadoe said. What I did not know was what he said next when he counted down the top 4 artists in AT40 history for top 10 hits. Paul McCartney had 22, Madonna had 23, MJ had 24 and this week Elton got his 25th. When AT40 wraps up its first run, Sir Paul will still have 22. Elton will only get one more and MJ will get two more to leave both with 26. Madonna will get 6 more to top them all with 29. What's incredible about that is that while the other three were around since the early 70s, she got all of her top 10 hits in the last 10+ years of that AT40 first run.
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Oct 17, 2023 15:17:51 GMT -5
Over the last several years, my love and appreciation for country music and country countdown shows has grown tremendously, and much of it I owe to the man who was called to his eternal home four years ago today, the great Bob Kingsley. The country complement to my favorite countdown host of all-time, Bob's love for the music, artists, songwriters, anyone who has a hand in it, is unmatched, and I can feel it in his delivery. Fitz has been a great replacement, and I'm very thankful that Bob's countdown show still is in existence. I try to catch it every weekend, and I now have a library of past CT40 shows to listen to anytime.
Bob's birthday was two days before mine.
My regret is not having come around sooner. I've never disliked country, but never really got into it until 2015, when ACC Rewind came about. And that just lit the fire for me. I still feel like I have a lot of catching up to do.
After all that, I'm going to listen to the Country Top 40 from 10/14/2006, and maybe re-listen to 9/28/2019, the final show Bob hosted. He still sounded great at age 80.
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