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Post by tarobe on Dec 4, 2012 19:29:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't have guessed KC and the Sunshine Band had five #1s. You would have if you had lived in the late seventies and listened to the radio.
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Post by jlthorpe on Dec 6, 2012 8:27:58 GMT -5
Along the same lines, I used to listen to WPLJ in the 90s and there was a period when they were playing a lot of 70s and 80s songs, but they almost never played acts like Roberta Flack, The Carpenters, John Denver, and Barbra Streisand (their slogan at the time was "No rap, no hard stuff, and no sleepy elevator music"). So thanks to things like AT40, I've been exposed to a lot of their hits which I really wasn't familiar with before.
Speaking of the Jets, they're another act that I don't think gets played by radio much. And I think a number of their hits went Top 10.
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Post by woolebull on Dec 6, 2012 8:39:59 GMT -5
Speaking of the Jets, they're another act that I don't think gets played by radio much. And I think a number of their hits went Top 10. Good call there...The Jets had 4 Top 10 hits, one of the brothers had another Top 10 hit and most people might be able to name "Crush On You". Might.
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Post by jlthorpe on Dec 6, 2012 9:46:56 GMT -5
Just realized a lot of the teen pop acts almost never got their songs played on radio when I listened in the 90s. The only Donny Osmond hit that got played was his late-80s hit "Soldier of Love". Never heard any of the Osmonds' hits. I don't think New Kids on the Block ever got played after the early 90s. Tiffany had "I Think We're Alone Now", but that was it. And Debbie Gibson probably had "Lost In Your Eyes" and "Only In My Dreams" as the only hits of hers that got played after the early 90s.
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Post by freakyflybry on Dec 6, 2012 11:44:54 GMT -5
Speaking of the Jets, they're another act that I don't think gets played by radio much. And I think a number of their hits went Top 10. Good call there...The Jets had 4 Top 10 hits, one of the brothers had another Top 10 hit and most people might be able to name "Crush On You". Might. Actually, they had FIVE top 10 hits. And yet, they get very little play today.
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Post by tarobe on Dec 6, 2012 12:41:16 GMT -5
Which is one of the contentions I have about "oldies" radio. Oldies radio tries to make one believe that it is the same as Top 40 radio from, say, the seventies. In reality, it is nothing like Top 40 radio was back then. Oldies radio has a set playlist of maybe 500 or 600 songs and that's it. They seem to be limited to the biggest, or at least one's "signature" hits and the variety is limited. Only certain acts, mainly superstars are represented.
Real Top 40 radio was a truly mixed bag indeed. Sure enough, you had what many associate with AM radio of the seventies, the soft-rock and MOR and "have a nice day" sound of acts like Donny Osmond, Bread, Carpenters, Tony Orlando and Dawn, John Denver, etc. You had older easy listening pop acts like Andy Williams and Perry Como. But you also had harder rock acts like Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones, Deep Purple, Kiss, the Who, Grand Funk, and all four of the former Beatles. And that's only the white side. On the black side, you had James Brown, Al Green, the Stylistics, Aretha Franklin, and the entire then-current roster of Motown. Add to that all the occasional country, novelty and just plain weird records, and you had something that modern day radio with its fragmented programming can't begin to touch.
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Post by woolebull on Dec 6, 2012 13:14:40 GMT -5
Good call there...The Jets had 4 Top 10 hits, one of the brothers had another Top 10 hit and most people might be able to name "Crush On You". Might. Actually, they had FIVE top 10 hits. And yet, they get very little play today. DOH! I keep on forgetting "Cross My Broken Heart" hit the top 10...thanks for checking me! Of the five, three were Top 5, two were top 3...if I hear any, it usually is "Rocket 2 U", which I find interesting. But it's not like some station is bumping "Rocket" every day or something...
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Post by woolebull on Dec 6, 2012 13:21:44 GMT -5
Which is one of the contentions I have about "oldies" radio. Oldies radio tries to make one believe that it is the same as Top 40 radio from, say, the seventies. In reality, it is nothing like Top 40 radio was back then. Oldies radio has a set playlist of maybe 500 or 600 songs and that's it. They seem to very limited to the biggest, or at least one's "signature" hits and the variety is limited. Only certain acts, mainly superstars are represented. Real Top 40 radio was a truly mixed bag indeed. Sure enough, you had what many associate with AM radio of the seventies, the soft-rock and MOR and "have a nice day" sound of acts like Donny Osmond, Bread, Carpenters, Tony Orlando and Dawn, John Denver, etc. You had older easy listening pop acts like Andy Williams and Perry Como. But you also had harder rock acts like Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones, Deep Purple, Kiss, the Who, Grand Funk, and all four of the former Beatles. And that's only the white side. On the black side, you had James Brown, Al Green, the Stylistics, Aretha Franklin, and the entire then-current roster of Motown. Add to that all the occasional country, novelty and just plain weird records, and you had something that modern day radio with its fragmented programming can't begin to touch. I've always found it fascinating that one of the reasons for the chart change in 1991 was because they wanted to placate the radio stations that didn't play more urban music. Did Top 40 radio stations in 1978 actually play "You Needed Me", followed by, say, "Le Freak", and then "Double Vision"? I guess I'm asking were Top 40 stations actually playing all different genres back in '78/'79 and being "real" Top 40 stations and then 12 years later forgot how eclectic Top 40 was? Or did stations play specific music such as Urban or New Wave or country and it was just compiled together into one chart? I know growing up in the 80's it seemed like every song that hit the Top 40 I heard on my local stations, minus a New Order song here or a "One" by Metallica there. By 1990, I never heard "Humpty Dance", "The Power"... it always frustrated me.
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Post by mga707 on Dec 6, 2012 19:01:55 GMT -5
Did Top 40 radio stations in 1978 actually play "You Needed Me", followed by, say, "Le Freak", and then "Double Vision"? I guess I'm asking were Top 40 stations actually playing all different genres back in '78/'79 In a word: Yes!
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Post by woolebull on Dec 6, 2012 19:28:38 GMT -5
Did Top 40 radio stations in 1978 actually play "You Needed Me", followed by, say, "Le Freak", and then "Double Vision"? I guess I'm asking were Top 40 stations actually playing all different genres back in '78/'79 In a word: Yes! I think MTV, more than anything, killed the radio style (I've heard that somewhere before...) It segregated for sure country out of Top 40 and it took R and B a bit of time to find its place back on the Top 40. Think of it this way: between August 1, 1981 and October 26, 1985, only four African-American female artists hit the top: Diana Ross, Patti Austin, Deniece Williams, and Tina Turner. Compare that to the calendar year 1979: Gloria Gaynor, Amii Stewart, Linda Greene (Peaches and Herb), Anita Ward, and Donna Summer (3 times) all hit the top. Five African-American female artists in 1979 versus four between 1981 and almost the end of 1985. If you throw in the year 1980, you pick up one more with Lipps, Inc. Five in 1979, five the first half of the 80's. EDIT: If I count Lipps, Inc. then it is fair to count Chic and the two times they did it in 1979 as well. So, in terms of acts with African-American ladies singing on a number one hit, final score is 1979: 6, The 1980's through October 1985, 5
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Post by lasvegaskid on Dec 7, 2012 14:56:11 GMT -5
Did Top 40 radio stations in 1978 actually play "You Needed Me", followed by, say, "Le Freak", and then "Double Vision"? I guess I'm asking were Top 40 stations actually playing all different genres back in '78/'79 They did woolebull, that is what was so great about the music back then. There was a lot of cross-pollination between formats. You didn't have to be constantly changing the dial to get a nice variety. Stations would play a little of this and a little of that. IMO things really started to change somewhere in 84/85 when if you didn't have the right look, you didn't get played on MTV and that impacted the radio play you received.
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Post by lasvegaskid on Dec 8, 2012 16:16:33 GMT -5
Jucie Newton seven top 40s (four of those top tenners and another #11)
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Post by lasvegaskid on Apr 20, 2014 21:46:27 GMT -5
Did radio really shove Michael Bolton down out throats to the tune of fourteen top 40s?
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Post by mkarns on Apr 22, 2014 12:17:23 GMT -5
Did radio really shove Michael Bolton down out throats to the tune of fourteen top 40s? No, he actually had SEVENTEEN top 40 hits at radio, as per Radio & Records. As for the shoving down our throats part, he had several big selling albums, so evidently a lot of people liked those songs. I was not among those who bought his albums or liked most of the songs (I could tolerate some.)
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Post by tarobe on Jun 12, 2014 10:29:02 GMT -5
I've always found it fascinating that one of the reasons for the chart change in 1991 was because they wanted to placate the radio stations that didn't play more urban music. Did Top 40 radio stations in 1978 actually play "You Needed Me", followed by, say, "Le Freak", and then "Double Vision"? I guess I'm asking were Top 40 stations actually playing all different genres back in '78/'79 and being "real" Top 40 stations and then 12 years later forgot how eclectic Top 40 was? Or did stations play specific music such as Urban or New Wave or country and it was just compiled together into one chart? I know growing up in the 80's it seemed like every song that hit the Top 40 I heard on my local stations, minus a New Order song here or a "One" by Metallica there. By 1990, I never heard "Humpty Dance", "The Power"... it always frustrated me. The answer is yes, but by 1978 Top 40 radio was already changing and becoming more exclusive. The term "Top 40" was already dead, replaced by "Contemporary Hit Radio." The great variation heard in the late 50s, the 60s and the early 70s was pretty much over. Novelty records, for example, were completely gone. Country was represented by acts who were also easily classed as Adult Contemporary, such as Anne Murray and Kenny Rogers. More traditional country acts like Conway Twitty and Johnny Paycheck were nowhere to be heard. Hard rock was there a little, like Foreigner, but Van Halen (possibly the biggest new hard rock act that year) only had token airplay. AOR stations had taken over much of what Top 40 had once played. R&B was still represented, but disco seemed to rule everything. Basically Top 40 radio in 1978 was Adult Contemporary plus Disco with just a little smackering of Rock.
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