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Post by michaelcasselman on Jul 7, 2014 14:57:43 GMT -5
JLSO hit number one in only it's 9th week on the whole Hot 100 as well. Wasn't there some early (earlier than 1982) 80's logjamming in the charts... because it otherwise seems odd that it would creep up the chart after an initial 6 and then 22 notch increase, even if you account for people opting for the album overthe single.
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Post by freakyflybry on Jul 8, 2014 0:18:31 GMT -5
Over on R&R, Neil was able to get into the penthouse before Lennon. Had this happened and Neil then sent Lennon packing on the Hot 100, it would have, effectively, created a reversal of fortune between the two charts. To the best of my knowledge - someone please correct me if I'm wrong - only one time did a song that dethroned another on the Hot 100, have the opposite happen on R&R: In 1990, James Ingram's "I Don't Have the Heart" lost the top spot to Janet's "Black Cat", while over on R&R, the reverse happened. So I'm not too sure that Neil would have hit the top on R&R and been dethroned by Lennon on that chart, only to dethrone Lennon on the Hot 100. Unless, of course, Neil would have been able to keep Lennon out altogether on R&R had Lennon lived. Something similar, but not quite, happened in early 1977. "Torn Between Two Lovers" preceded the sequence of "Blinded By The Light" and "New Kid In Town" on Billboard. However, on R&R, "Blinded By The Light" hit #1 first, then "New Kid In Town"... then finally "Torn Between Two Lovers", hitting #1 on R&R AFTER the two #1's that she preceded at #1 on Billboard! |
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Post by jebsib on Nov 16, 2014 10:44:53 GMT -5
Not sure where else to post this, but...
There has been a lot of chatter abut Billboard artificially holding the former #1 "Whatever Gets You Through the Night" at #40 for two weeks in a row in order to give the Beatles a reunion of sorts in the Top 40.
(It would mean all 4 ex-Beatles were in the Top 40 simultaneously for the first and only time since their breakup.)
The reasoning is that the song was plummeting, and to stay at #40 (of ALL positions, too) was just unrealistic back then.
Today Billboard posted an article regarding an Elton John concert, held on Thanksgiving 1974 from Madison Square Garden.
The concert featured a very special surprise performance by John Lennon, his first in 8 years. The two performed said song, and apparently it was a media sensation.
Was anyone following media back then? Was this performance broadcast live that night? Was there much talk about it that week?
My reason for asking is that if the performance was so high profile, it would have affected sales and airplay for the following tracking week period...
Which happens to coincide with that second week at #40 ( Dec 14th) and might have stopped the plummet dead in its tracks for one week.
Thus, an age old mystery (kinda) solved...?
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Post by dukelightning on Nov 16, 2014 10:56:31 GMT -5
Maybe. You have to also wonder if AT40 and/or Casey had a high enough profile for Billboard to do such chart chicanery. They also did not have a Chartbeat column which would have played the 4 solo Beatles in the top 40 possibility the prior week. It was not however the only time all 4 Beatles were in the top 40 together. Just a few weeks later, Lennon's followup single "#9 Dream" debuted while the other 3 Beatles who had been in the top 40 on 12/14/74 were still there.
BTW, that appearance by John at Elton's concert was brought by a bet between the two. John did not think "Whatever Gets You Through the Night" would hit #1. The bet with Elton was that if it did, he would join him on stage at some point.
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Post by MrGeno502 on Nov 16, 2014 13:04:44 GMT -5
Not sure where else to post this, but... There has been a lot of chatter abut Billboard artificially holding the former #1 "Whatever Gets You Through the Night" at #40 for two weeks in a row in order to give the Beatles a reunion of sorts in the Top 40. (It would mean all 4 ex-Beatles were in the Top 40 simultaneously for the first and only time since their breakup.) The reasoning is that the song was plummeting, and to stay at #40 (of ALL positions, too) was just unrealistic back then. Today Billboard posted an article regarding an Elton John concert, held on Thanksgiving 1974 from Madison Square Garden. The concert featured a very special surprise performance by John Lennon, his first in 8 years. The two performed said song, and apparently it was a media sensation. Was anyone following media back then? Was this performance broadcast live that night? Was there much talk about it that week? My reason for asking is that if the performance was so high profile, it would have affected sales and airplay for the following tracking week period... Which happens to coincide with that second week at #40 ( Dec 14th) and might have stopped the plummet dead in its tracks for one week. Thus, an age old mystery (kinda) solved...? Here is a video on YouTube of the only film from that night: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP0mwSKIpGY |
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