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Post by jlthorpe on Dec 4, 2012 9:07:12 GMT -5
Most songs in the Top 10 that begin with a car starting: 2: Weeks of 4/23 and 4/30/88- Natalie Cole's "Pink Cadillac" and Billy Ocean's "Get Out Of My Dreams, Get Into My Car"  Speaking of Billy Ocean, how about having all three of his #1 hits have eight words in the title - "Caribbean Queen (No More Love On The Run)", "There'll Be Sad Songs (To Make You Cry)", and "Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car". |
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Post by woolebull on Dec 4, 2012 10:04:04 GMT -5
Most songs in the Top 10 that begin with a car starting: 2: Weeks of 4/23 and 4/30/88- Natalie Cole's "Pink Cadillac" and Billy Ocean's "Get Out Of My Dreams, Get Into My Car" Speaking of Billy Ocean, how about having all three of his #1 hits have eight words in the title - "Caribbean Queen (No More Love On The Run)", "There'll Be Sad Songs (To Make You Cry)", and "Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car". ^ Love that fact. |
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Post by Hervard on Dec 5, 2012 12:16:13 GMT -5
As far as country records go, it's still too early to tell, but Taylor Swift is on the cusp of setting a few longevity records on the Hot Country Songs chart with " We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together." For the moment, she has tied Connie Smith's " Once a Day" for most weeks at No. 1 – eight weeks – on the country chart by a female solo artist. The record of eight weeks for "Once a Day," set in January 1965, was thought to be invincible ... but now its been matched, and I'd not be surprised to see it become dust in the wind. If it makes it to nine weeks at No. 1, "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" becomes the first to do so in 46 years. The last? David Houston's No. 1 smash " Almost Persuaded," which did so in October 1966. If it makes it to 10 weeks, then not only am I going home, but she would join an exclusive fraternity, which no one has joined since early 1964 (10 or more weeks at No. 1 on the country chart), when Buck Owens' " Love's Gonna Live Here" notched up an incredible 16 weeks at No. 1. She still has a ways to go before she would threaten the all-time record, a three-way tie for most weeks at No. 1 (21, set last by Webb Pierce in 1955 with " In the Jailhouse Now"). Amazing. A good song as it is (hey, I love it), "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" probably the most un-country song to ever top the country charts, and now it's going to be remembered alongside the greats from Hank Williams Sr., Webb Pierce, Hank Snow, Buck Owens, Ray Price, Eddy Arnold, Ferlin Husky, Jim Reeves, Carl Smith, Lefty Frizzell, Marty Robbins, Faron Young, Elvis Presley, Johnny Cash and many, many others. (I think of all those 10-plus weekers, only Ray Price, Jim Ed Brown and Leroy Van Dyke, who are in their 70s or 80s, survive.) Hey, so far, among her contemporaries, only Alan Jackson (with some help from Jimmy Buffett) and Lonestar have been able to achieve what she has. Brian Sometime tomorrow, we'll be finding out if Taylor breaks the record for the most weeks at #1 for a female artist. However, with "Over You" by Cassadee Pope making a strong debut at #3, I kind of have my doubts. But yeah, that song is as close to country as I've been to the moon. |
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Post by briguy52748 on Dec 5, 2012 12:23:41 GMT -5
Sometime tomorrow, we'll be finding out if Taylor breaks the record for the most weeks at #1 for a female artist. However, with "Over You" by Cassadee Pope making a strong debut at #3, I kind of have my doubts. But yeah, that song is as close to country as I've been to the moon. At the same time, if Taylor does make it nine weeks at No. 1, she will accomplish something no song or artist has been able to do in 46 years – alluded to earlier in this thread. Put that in perspective – the last time a country song was at No. 1 for nine weeks, the U.S. was engaged in the Vietnam War, Lyndon Johnson was president and – funny you mention moon – man had yet to walk on the moon. For our listeners who were born in the 1990s and later, it was conceivable that their grandparents were still in high school when this happened. Incidentally, the overall female record on the country side was part of a duet – Margaret Whiting, who dueted with Jimmy Wakely on " Slippin' Around," which spent an astounding 17 weeks at No. 1 on the country charts way back in 1949, some 63 years ago (along with several weeks atop the all-genre pop chart). But the charts were way different then – no all-encompassing charts for either pop, country or (for that matter) R&B – and much has changed since then. And, this was a duet, not a solo effort. We'll soon know more tomorrow. Brian |
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Post by briguy52748 on Dec 5, 2012 16:03:26 GMT -5
For the moment, the one that seems to be setting records for longevity on the Hot Country Songs chart, as far as remaining in the top 10 themselves, are Hunter Hayes' "Wanted" and Carrie Underwood's "Blown Away."
Long after they've started becoming recurrents, these two songs remain strong in the top 10 of the Hot Country Songs chart. Would not be surprised if, in a couple of weeks, these two are in the top 10 for the entire year of 2012 ... along with you know who and although-a-great-song-just-not-a-country-song.
Brian
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Post by briguy52748 on Dec 5, 2012 16:10:47 GMT -5
To get this back on-topic, one record I think will never be broken is when three separate artists had Top 40 hits in 1991 that had the same titles as Top 40 hits by Asia ("Don't Cry", "Heat Of The Moment", and "Only Time Will Tell"). No offense to your contribution or others, but the way I envisioned this question – "which records will never be broken" – I envisioned it as actual chart and artist accomplishments, not records like, how many artists had songs whose titles were shared with those of one particular artist's songs. Y'know, records like how old someone was when they had a No. 1 hit, how many weeks was it No. 1 on a specific chart, No. 1 on multiple Billboard charts, how many consecutive No. 1 there were ... And ones like I'll suggest – and may have already been suggested: Most weeks at No.1 in a row by a songwriter or songwriting team: Barry Gibb, either solo or with his brothers, as the Bee Gees dominated from "Stayin' Alive" through "Love Is Thicker Than Water," "Night Fever" and "If I Can't Have You" from February to May 1978. Or the Gibbs also writing later in 1978 "Shadow Dancing" and "Grease." Six No. 1 hits from the entire year written by Barry, either solo or with Maurice, Robin and/or Andy. They also were on the charts that year with two more either former ("How Deep Is Your Love") or future ("Too Much Heaven") No. 1 hits in 1978. ("How Deep ... " peaked in 1977, "Too Much Heaven" in January 1979). Now that's a record! Brian |
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Post by lasvegaskid on Dec 5, 2012 16:28:09 GMT -5
Here is another, Pink Floyd most week's on album chart. This will never be broken since people don't buy albums anymore.
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Post by jlthorpe on Dec 6, 2012 8:12:54 GMT -5
Here is another, Pink Floyd most week's on album chart. This will never be broken since people don't buy albums anymore. And also because of Billboard's rule of removing albums after a certain amount of time (sure, they go to the Top Pop Catalog chart or whatever it's called, but it's not the same). |
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Post by jlthorpe on Dec 6, 2012 8:16:08 GMT -5
To get this back on-topic, one record I think will never be broken is when three separate artists had Top 40 hits in 1991 that had the same titles as Top 40 hits by Asia ("Don't Cry", "Heat Of The Moment", and "Only Time Will Tell"). No offense to your contribution or others, but the way I envisioned this question – "which records will never be broken" – I envisioned it as actual chart and artist accomplishments, not records like, how many artists had songs whose titles were shared with those of one particular artist's songs. Y'know, records like how old someone was when they had a No. 1 hit, how many weeks was it No. 1 on a specific chart, No. 1 on multiple Billboard charts, how many consecutive No. 1 there were ... I know, but I just thought that Asia accomplishment was cute. Was also going to suggest what someone else on this board pointed out, with two songs being in the Top 40 at the same time with the same title AND not having the title mentioned in the lyrics ("Love Song" by Tesla and by The Cure, in 1989). |
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Post by briguy52748 on Dec 6, 2012 9:01:12 GMT -5
Well, after 46 years and two months, David Houston and "Almost Persuaded" has FINALLY been matched, and there is a new queen of solo longevity on the Hot Country Singles chart.
With nine weeks at No. 1 ... drumroll please ... here is Taylor Swift ... and "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together."
Incidentally, the top five of the Hot Country Songs chart, I swear, has been the same since the inception of the new chart format. Hunter Hayes moves back to No. 3 with "Wanted," while Carrie Underwood's "Blown Away" is at No. 5.
Well, we'll see next week if she can make it 10 weeks, and if so, she accomplishes something that hasn't been done since the Beatles were brand new to America. (That being Buck Owens' 16-week run at No. 1 with "Love's Gonna Live Here.")
Brian
P.S.: So much for Cassadee Pope – she falls to No. 29 with "Over You." Not to say it can't rebound ... . Hey, Taylor Swift did it, and so is Hunter Hayes and the most beautiful country singer out there today, Ms. Carrie Underwood.
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Post by Hervard on Dec 6, 2012 9:37:17 GMT -5
I guess Cassadee Pope's song debuted so high due to hype.
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Post by briguy52748 on Dec 6, 2012 9:56:25 GMT -5
I guess Cassadee Pope's song debuted so high due to hype. Now, the question remains – what if? What if this methodology had been in place in 2003, when Johnny Cash's " Hurt" was released as a single? Despite no airplay, would it have spent this long at No. 1, or in the very least charted high in the top 10 of the country and/or Hot 100? What if Ray Stevens released one of his recent songs – either the ones supporting the tea party or the earlier " Osama Yo Mama" – and the methodology was in place? Would we have a record between longest dry spell at No. 1, or longest span between first and most recent No. 1s? Very possible. (Remember, he topped the Hot 100 with " Everything is Beautiful" way back in 1970, and then returned to No. 1 in 1974 with " The Streak." "Osama Yo Mama" came in early 2002, while his more recent songs were released in 2010 and got lots of hype.) It's very possible that, as far as both the country and Hot 100 goes, some classic artists could benefit. Not just Johnny Cash (with some posthumous songs recorded before his death at age 72) or the still very active Ray Stevens (he's 73), but still very-much-active singers like Hank Williams Jr. (age 63), Jimmy Buffett (almost 66), Dolly Parton (turns 67 next month), Kenny Rogers (74), Merle Haggard (75), Willie Nelson (79), George Jones (81) and perhaps even Ray Price (he's nearing age 87). If any of these artists chart – and dollars to donuts I say they will – I bet there could be some serious chart career longevity records set, or in the very least threatened. Eventually, " We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" will drop from No. 1 – probably slowly is my guess – and Taylor Swift, Hunter Hayes and Carrie Underwood will have new songs in the top 5 after their current songs (Hunter's " Wanted" and Carrie's " Blown Away") begin their (probably) slow chart descent. Now make no mistake: I love these new artists, especially Carrie Underwood. But my guess is the classic artists who made country music, listed above, will also have their turn at glory. Brian |
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Post by johnnywest on Dec 6, 2012 11:22:57 GMT -5
Here is another, Pink Floyd most week's on album chart. This will never be broken since people don't buy albums anymore. And also because of Billboard's rule of removing albums after a certain amount of time (sure, they go to the Top Pop Catalog chart or whatever it's called, but it's not the same). I think they got rid of their recurrent rule on the Billboard 200 several months ago. |
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Post by jlthorpe on Dec 6, 2012 11:40:03 GMT -5
And also because of Billboard's rule of removing albums after a certain amount of time (sure, they go to the Top Pop Catalog chart or whatever it's called, but it's not the same). I think they got rid of their recurrent rule on the Billboard 200 several months ago. Yep, shows you how much I follow the current Billboard chart methodologies. Hey, does Billboard still have a Bubbling Under albums chart? (Just kidding, I know that one went away in the 80s). |
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Post by artsmusic on Dec 6, 2012 13:22:28 GMT -5
How long would How Do I Live or Achy Breaky Heart have been #1 country when their sales were so far ahead of other standard radio-only type country #1s? In addition, like Wanted, How Do I Live or any ballad-y Swift single would have benefited from the slow legitimate build of crossover to AC/pop/adult 40 along with the continued sales appeal to a non-country audience. With the counting of sales AND crossover format airplay when they had never been a factor before on the country chart singles before, would this have made Convoy, Lookin For Love, Always On My Mind (Willie)....and on and on bigger country hits. Here's an opinion piece you all might find interesting! tasteofcountry.com/billboard-chart-changes/ |
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