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Post by mct1 on May 21, 2012 21:30:19 GMT -5
What was the version of Madonna's "Borderline" played on the 5/19/84 show this week? It's my understanding that the original 45 was a remix. Was this the 45 version and the one we're used to hearing nowadays is the album version, or do I have that backwards?
While the two versions sound superficially similar -- if you were casually listening to the radio in the background as you went about your business, you might not notice anything out of order -- there are numerous clear differences. The version played by AT40 sounds like it has some additional keyboards not in the other version. Each version seems to include some segments of lyrical content that aren't in the other. The ending of the song really struck me as noticeably different.
I was also going to ask about the version of Marvin Gaye's "Got To Give It Up" played on the 5/21/77 show, but I found the answer in the '70s show thread. It was Part II, from the flip side of the 45 (the 45 was edited down from a much longer album track, with Part I being the hit version). AT40 apparently played Part II for several weeks, for reasons that aren't clear; Part I was clearly the hit, and is clearly the main part of the song. Part II sounds like a random edit from an extended dance mix, without much in the way of structure or lyrics.
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Post by mstgator on May 27, 2012 13:54:38 GMT -5
What was the version of Madonna's "Borderline" played on the 5/19/84 show this week? It's my understanding that the original 45 was a remix. Was this the 45 version and the one we're used to hearing nowadays is the album version, or do I have that backwards? While the two versions sound superficially similar -- if you were casually listening to the radio in the background as you went about your business, you might not notice anything out of order -- there are numerous clear differences. The version played by AT40 sounds like it has some additional keyboards not in the other version. Each version seems to include some segments of lyrical content that aren't in the other. The ending of the song really struck me as noticeably different. I'm guessing what we're used to hearing today would be either the full album version, or the 45-length remix first heard on The Immaculate Collection and more recently on her Celebration compilation (since the original 45 version has never made it to CD outside of Japan). I'll have to go back to the AT40 show you noted to compare. |
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Post by jcs72 on May 27, 2012 21:23:59 GMT -5
Listening to the 5/29/71 replay I just heard a a version of Daddy Dewdrop's "Chick-A-Boom" which both added and deleted content. Most of the verses eliminated the chorus, but toward the end was some singing I had never ever heard, a capella (no instruments for those of you in Rio Linda). What's up with that?
Oh, and I'm listening over the Internet via KABG 98.5, Los Alamos, New Mexico.
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Post by countdownmike on May 29, 2012 11:57:49 GMT -5
On the Marvin Gaye odd version, I wouldn't doubt that the AT40 gang and/or affiliate stations wanted to totally avoid the debate as to whether Marvin says, "You can bump me if you want to, baby." Many thought he snuck in the "f" word there. Part II got them around it. A great song with no important lyrics, other than praising the party, so Part II is very enjoyable by itself. CKLW got around it by going to a section of Part II after the second verse of Part I, then returning to Part I to close it out to the fade. I remember another Marvin song that had an "odd" version that actually played on AT40 its first weeks. The "What's Going On" single had a false fade and I remember AT40 letting it play out the week I heard it. Since the fade was created by Marvin as some kind of protest, I would have been wary of "Got To Give It-Part 1" as well.
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Post by dukelightning on May 29, 2012 12:15:07 GMT -5
In the top 40 of 1971, Casey actually makes note of the early fade by talking about it as it fades saying that this is a rare song with 2 fades, pauses as it fades and kicks back in and then starts talking again when it fades for the second time. Strange way to protest IMO.
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Post by at40petebattistini on May 29, 2012 12:27:52 GMT -5
On the Marvin Gaye odd version, I wouldn't doubt that the AT40 gang and/or affiliate stations wanted to totally avoid the debate as to whether Marvin says, "You can bump me if you want to, baby." Many thought he snuck in the "f" word there. Part II got them around it. A great song with no important lyrics, other than praising the party, so Part II is very enjoyable by itself. CKLW got around it by going to a section of Part II after the second verse of Part I, then returning to Part I to close it out to the fade. I remember another Marvin song that had an "odd" version that actually played on AT40 its first weeks. The "What's Going On" single had a false fade and I remember AT40 letting it play out the week I heard it. Since the fade was created by Marvin as some kind of protest, I would have been wary of "Got To Give It-Part 1" as well. And it's also due to the lyrics of another Marvin Gaye song that prevented him from reaching the Top 40 in early 1974 with "You Sure Love To Ball". I wonder if we get a February 1974 program if I can consider that one a "lost classic."  |
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Post by countdownmike on May 29, 2012 21:12:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the info on Casey talking about the "What's Going On" false fade. I never knew he acknowledged it. According to an article I read long ago about "What's Going On," Berry Gordy hated the song and refused to release it. It was supposed to come out in the summer of 1970, but Gordy didn't want another protest song (Edwin Starr's "War" was a hit at the time). So Marvin went on "strike" promising to never record another song for Motown. In late 1970 he, along with an engineer, put a final mix on the song and released it without Gordy's permission. Reportedly Marvin created the false fade during remixing as a slight to Gordy, purposely putting that glitch in the single as if saying, "You thought I was done...here's some more of me." By the time the album came out the single was a hit, and there was no such glitch on the album version. Compilations got rid of the fade, too. I also recall reading that the principals resolved their differences by the time the album came out. No station I listened to acknowledged the fade. Most air personalities were fooled by it. They would start talking and then the volume would come back up over them.
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on May 30, 2012 7:30:20 GMT -5
What was the version of Madonna's "Borderline" played on the 5/19/84 show this week? It's my understanding that the original 45 was a remix. Was this the 45 version and the one we're used to hearing nowadays is the album version, or do I have that backwards? I have both the May 19, 1984 and the May 26, 1984 broadcasts, and the version heard on May 26, 1984 was the common version. I am listening to the May 19, 1984 broadcast now as I post this, and I just heard the odd version of Madonna's "Borderline" just now. It also contained lyrics towards the end of that version that I would never hear in the common version. Makes me wonder if they played the totally different version because the amount of time remaining in that hour would allow for such longer version to be played? Also, I know OZ-FM played back in the late-1990s and early-2000s the longer full-abridged version of Howard Jones' "What Is Love?". Did AT40 play that version at all, or did they play the single version while it was on AT40? |
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on May 30, 2012 7:37:27 GMT -5
That's correct... the original version played that week was recorded as The Water Brothers Band. If you don't have the 6/6/81 AT40, you can compare the two versions here. And you can hear the 6/6/1981 show this coming weekend. |
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Post by Mike on Jun 19, 2012 14:46:13 GMT -5
On the Top 100 of 1988, Shadoe plays the English-Spanish version of "Anything For You" by Gloria Estefan & Miami Sound Machine. Did Casey ever play this version? Listening to the April 16 show now (hosted by Keri Tombazian)...it's in that one, too. |
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Post by jdelachjr2002 on Jun 19, 2012 21:03:53 GMT -5
Just for completeness' sake here were the weeks in which Casey played the part-English, part-Spanish version of "Anything For You".
4/2/1988; 4/9/1988; 4/16/1988 (Keri Tombazian hosted); 5/7/1988; 6/4/1988; 6/18/1988.
The full English version of "Anything For You" was played in both of its' weeks at #1.
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Post by baylink on Jun 20, 2012 11:19:43 GMT -5
On 1/19/80, Casey played Charlie Dore's 'Pilot of the Airwaves', which was then in the countdown, and which is in someone's list here of "Top 40 songs to say goodbye to Casey with" (for me, it's #1 on that list).
I noticed that, that week instead of the acapella harmony ourd-outro I expected (a mirror of the intro), it had a short pause, and then a repeat and fade ending. Were there two versions of that song, outro-wise, as there were with, say, Mr Mister's Kyrie?
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Post by mstgator on Jun 20, 2012 19:54:17 GMT -5
The single version of "Pilot" has the acapella ending (repeated from the beginning of the song). The album version instead ends with a guitar solo and fade (this was also the version in the song's video). You might mean 4/19/80 instead of 1/19/80.  |
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Post by baylink on Jun 21, 2012 16:09:36 GMT -5
Well, the file's labeled 19800119. Or maybe it was the 19800503 show...
I know that I've heard both versions; that show had the album version, but I have it in another countdown (as that's the only place I've heard it in 30 years :-), and that one had the single ending, which I like a lot better.
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Post by baylink on Jun 25, 2012 13:33:59 GMT -5
Pleased to hear just now, on 2/21/87, that they played -- at least on that week -- the live version, with the long three-part ending, of Billy Vera's "At This Moment".
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