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Post by jgve1952 on Aug 27, 2022 9:47:49 GMT -5
Great catch Laura! I just checked UMD, and "How Do I Live" debuted on the BB Chart on 6-21-97 and spent 69 weeks on the chart, and just like "Gloria" peaked at #2. I will have to see if BB has a Top 100 of the year 1998, but since the charts run from November to November, HDIL would have been on the chart for most of the survey year of late 1997 to late 1998. If my math is correct, that would have been from 6-97 to 10-98.
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Post by jgve1952 on Aug 27, 2022 9:53:39 GMT -5
Just checked Wikipedia, and "Too Close" by Next 2 was BB #1 of 1998, so who knows what methodology was used, but apparently #1 songs must have received major bonus points. BTW the #2 song, "The Boy Is Mine" spent 13 weeks at #1 by Brandy and Monica.
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Post by Mike on Aug 27, 2022 13:42:49 GMT -5
Regarding the Countdown of 1982 on 9-2-22, which will feature 9-4-82, Gloria by Laura Branigan debuts in the Top 40, and stays in the Top 40 for the entire months of September thru January 29, 1983. For the Hot 100, 36 weeks! It never did hit #1, but I believe if all its weeks had been in the same survey year it would have been #1 or very close for the entire year. Are we talking tabulations based on its entire Hot 100 run, or just its Top 40 run? Its Top 40 run - specifically, its top 50 run, as utilized by the AT40 Power Point formula - has a calculation accounted for: at40fg.proboards.com/post/97898/threadPlaced in 1983, it ranks #9 for the year. A few posts above that is 1982's rankings, where it would have ranked #11 for the year based on its point total (behind fellow #2s "Waiting For a Girl Like You" and "Hurts So Good").
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Post by Mike on Aug 27, 2022 13:53:38 GMT -5
Just checked Wikipedia, and "Too Close" by Next 2 was BB #1 of 1998, so who knows what methodology was used, but apparently #1 songs must have received major bonus points. BTW the #2 song, "The Boy Is Mine" spent 13 weeks at #1 by Brandy and Monica. Once Billboard converted to Soundscan for sales and BDS airplay monitoring, they stopped using chart position-based calculations for their year-end charts. Instead, those charts would be compiled using weekly chart points - the cumulative sum of a song's weekly chart points. To give an overly-simplistic example: Suppose Song A gets 150 chart points on a given week. Regardless of where 150 points would put it, those 150 points would be what gets counted towards the year-end chart. This, by the way, is how Elton John's double-sided "Candle in the Wind 1997"/"Something About the Way You Look Tonight" was able to be the top song of 1997, despite the fact that it didn't even hit the chart until the week of October 11. Its sales were THAT Earth-shattering (11 million copies were shipped in the U.S. alone, close to 9 million are recorded as sold). But no matter how much it sold, there's no way it would have ranked first for 1997 under any kind of chart position-based calculation (actually, it'd probably have been deferred to 1998, since it remained #1 through mid-January).
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Post by Michael1973 on Aug 27, 2022 14:14:29 GMT -5
I correctly predicted that we'd get 1982 from both sources next weekend, before either show announced their selections. My reasoning was as follows:
Most recent Big 40 countdowns have featured a year recently played by Premiere. The only year left was 1985, which was not likely to follow 1984 on the big 40, meaning Labor Day was likely to feature the same year from both. And the likeliest options were 1982 or 1986.
If both shows played 1986, then the VJs couldn't continue their copycat pattern and play 1985 the following week, so 1982 it was.
Also, Premiere has been heavily repeating "A" shows from 2017 recently. Guess when 9/4/82 was last played?
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Post by jgve1952 on Aug 27, 2022 15:30:59 GMT -5
At least Premiere and Sirius XM the 70's often do the show a week later (one week also on the date of the show), but at least it's not the same weekend.
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Post by jgve1952 on Aug 27, 2022 15:33:13 GMT -5
Just checked Wikipedia, and "Too Close" by Next 2 was BB #1 of 1998, so who knows what methodology was used, but apparently #1 songs must have received major bonus points. BTW the #2 song, "The Boy Is Mine" spent 13 weeks at #1 by Brandy and Monica. Once Billboard converted to Soundscan for sales and BDS airplay monitoring, they stopped using chart position-based calculations for their year-end charts. Instead, those charts would be compiled using weekly chart points - the cumulative sum of a song's weekly chart points. To give an overly-simplistic example: Suppose Song A gets 150 chart points on a given week. Regardless of where 150 points would put it, those 150 points would be what gets counted towards the year-end chart. This, by the way, is how Elton John's double-sided "Candle in the Wind 1997"/"Something About the Way You Look Tonight" was able to be the top song of 1997, despite the fact that it didn't even hit the chart until the week of October 11. Its sales were THAT Earth-shattering (11 million copies were shipped in the U.S. alone, close to 9 million are recorded as sold). But no matter how much it sold, there's no way it would have ranked first for 1997 under any kind of chart position-based calculation (actually, it'd probably have been deferred to 1998, since it remained #1 through mid-January). It has always been a disadvantage to have a song come out late in the Summer or early Fall as their total points can't be counted as the Top 100 has to be compiled and listing sent to publisher for inclusion in the last issue of BB.
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Post by Mike on Aug 27, 2022 22:21:54 GMT -5
Also, Premiere has been heavily repeating "A" shows from 2017 recently. Guess when 9/4/82 was last played? LOL, that's how Big 40 began the year - with a string of those.
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Post by laura on Aug 27, 2022 23:46:05 GMT -5
One thing I'm not really liking is how after the countdown ends, they would replay random songs from the countdown to fill out whatever amount of time they have left in the hour. Then it's always the same songs in the same order. For this week they play "The Glamorous Life" and "The Lucky One".
And because TLO is #39, they basically played it twice in five minutes during the 8 AM airing.
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Post by lasvegaskid on Sept 2, 2022 22:46:45 GMT -5
Next week's not AT40...1986
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Post by laura on Sept 2, 2022 22:49:43 GMT -5
It should be hopefully be 9/6, even if it being this week's Premiere B show would taint it a little.
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Post by jgve1952 on Sept 3, 2022 5:07:19 GMT -5
There have been a couple of times when the Countdown went four days ahead of the actual date, instead of three days back.
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Post by laura on Sept 3, 2022 10:17:09 GMT -5
There have been a couple of times when the Countdown went four days ahead of the actual date, instead of three days back. [softly] Don't. Considering the channel playing more #2 songs throughout the weekend, it did actually make sense for them to go back to 1982. There are a couple of big #2 songs on that particular chart, "Gloria" and "Hurts So Good" off the top of my head.
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Post by Mike on Sept 3, 2022 17:19:53 GMT -5
Yup, "Gloria" hits the Top 40, and I...think? "Hurts So Good" steps down from the runner-up position after 4 weeks.
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Post by laura on Sept 3, 2022 17:41:29 GMT -5
Yup, "Gloria" hits the Top 40, and I...think? "Hurts So Good" steps down from the runner-up position after 4 weeks. Another one I just remembered was "Rosanna", which was in its very last week in the top 40 I think.
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