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Post by dukelightning on Dec 29, 2019 22:06:13 GMT -5
Song of the decade certainly goes to Ed Sheeran with "Shape of You" being the top song at CHR and #4 at Hot AC. With the Chain Smokers' "Closer" at #3 on the CHR survey, the 6 month period from October 2016 to April 2017 is right up there for the biggest concentration of huge hits in AT40 history. The biggest concentration of huge hits in AT40 history continues to be the 6 or 7 months from June 1981 to the end of the year. In the top hits of the 80s special, #1, #2 and #3 all came from that period. "Physical", "Bette Davis Eyes" and "Endless Love". While that special aired in July 1987, nothing changed for the top 3 the rest of the decade.
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Post by DJ Particle on Dec 30, 2019 3:07:20 GMT -5
I don't follow the chart action of the last six to ten years, but I do follow music news. Could it be that "Blurred Lines" was left off the show because of all the controversy, the legal proceedings and all of that? Just a thought... Doubtful. These decade end charts are most likely not put together with any great deal of thought or metric. Someone probably forgot to add it in. When CT40 did the Top 40 Million Sellers of the 80s, Millie Vanilli’s “Blame it on the Rain” was on there and this was about 2 months after they came out as frauds. So there’s precedence for controversial inclusion. Given that the #1s of 2019, 2018, 2016, and 2015 were all in the 30s, it's possible that the controversy surrounding the song gave it an earlier airplay death, and therefore didn't chart high enough for this chart. Many songs continue to have *some* airplay presence, even after a few years (and therefore continue to rack up decade points), but "Blurred Lines" pretty much dropped off the face of the air after the controversy.
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Post by Hervard on Dec 30, 2019 9:11:14 GMT -5
I don't follow the chart action of the last six to ten years, but I do follow music news. Could it be that "Blurred Lines" was left off the show because of all the controversy, the legal proceedings and all of that? Just a thought... Doubtful. These decade end charts are most likely not put together with any great deal of thought or metric. Someone probably forgot to add it in. When CT40 did the Top 40 Million Sellers of the 80s, Milli Vanilli’s “Blame it on the Rain” was on there and this was about 2 months after they came out as frauds. So there’s precedence for controversial inclusion. Actually, the show was aired just a little over a week after that was revealed, which happened on November 14 while the show was aired on Thanksgiving weekend (November 24-25). Since Casey had been plugging the show for at least two weeks before the show (possibly even three), it had been already recorded, obviously before anyone knew about it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2019 12:21:13 GMT -5
I could have sworn it came out in early October.
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Post by woolebull on Dec 30, 2019 17:54:19 GMT -5
Doubtful. These decade end charts are most likely not put together with any great deal of thought or metric. Someone probably forgot to add it in. When CT40 did the Top 40 Million Sellers of the 80s, Millie Vanilli’s “Blame it on the Rain” was on there and this was about 2 months after they came out as frauds. So there’s precedence for controversial inclusion. Given that the #1s of 2019, 2018, 2016, and 2015 were all in the 30s, it's possible that the controversy surrounding the song gave it an earlier airplay death, and therefore didn't chart high enough for this chart. Many songs continue to have *some* airplay presence, even after a few years (and therefore continue to rack up decade points), but "Blurred Lines" pretty much dropped off the face of the air after the controversy. I would agree with you about airplay presence and it possibly hurting "Blurred Lines", with one glaring exception on this countdown. Actually two. If the decade end was based on spins, then there is absolutely no way "Sucker" could have been the number four song of the decade, just based on the fact that it has only been out eight months compare to songs such as "Tik Tok" who had literally the whole decade to gain airplay points. Not as glaring is "Happier" which has been out fifteen months or so being the 14th biggest song of the decade. "Blurred" shot up the charts quick, and met a quick demise, but I cannot imagine that the song was at the best the 41st most played song of the decade. I know for sure "Sucker" wasn't the fourth most played song of the decade. Heck, according to Mediabase it wasn't the most played song this year. While I was OK with the Top 40 in general for the decade end, the top four really didn't seem to be right, in my opinion. It just seems off that "Sucker" and "Glad You Came" were in the top 4, and "Blurred" was nowhere to be found. "
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 30, 2019 18:13:30 GMT -5
I think when you consider that the same stories are being placed in both the CHR and Hot AC countdowns, there is going to be some manipulation. Because Ryan also needs to tease these stories and needs the song associated with the story to be slotted appropriately in the segment. They can't have a tease and then have to wait until the last song of a 4 song segment to hear it, for example.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 30, 2019 18:27:56 GMT -5
I am listening to the decade end countdown for the 2000s. While they played a clip of Casey opening the first AT40 show in the 2010s decade end countdown, on this show as an extra, they played a clip of Ryan announcing "Hey Yeah" at #1 on the first show he hosted(as a regular host, that is, he subbed for Casey previously). Ryan also ran down the top selling albums of the decade. The album which "Hey Yeah" comes from was #5(released in 2003). No surprise that 3 of the top 4 were released in 1999 or 2000(exception being Shania Twain's Up released in 2002). Those 3 albums are Creed's Human Clay, NSYNC's No Strings Attached and the top selling album Santana's Supernatural. I suppose they could have done the top 5 based on chart performance and gotten some albums from later in the decade. But that would have taken too much work I am guessing.
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Post by woolebull on Dec 30, 2019 18:32:13 GMT -5
A thought: if there are a ton more CHR stations in 2019 then say 2010 - 17, you could make the argument that songs from the later years of this decade would be able to collect more spins during their initial runs than songs earlier in the decade. That being said, I can't imagine "Sucker" would be able to amass the fourth most spins since 2010, particularly with "Without Me" outpacing it this year and it wasn't close to the top 10. It would be neat to see a total spin chart for the decade, just for argument sake.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 30, 2019 18:57:22 GMT -5
It was the same situation on the Hot AC decade countdown with a 2019 hit "High Hopes" finishing as the #2 song. Obviously that cannot be based on spins solely.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 30, 2019 19:19:38 GMT -5
8 weeks at #1 and "Apologize" is relegated to an extra?! Ryan says that in the first season of American Idol(2002), he said people could text their response and no one knew what texting was! In its infancy back then. To hear Ryan say "We Belong Together" spent 12 weeks at #1, longer than any #1 song in AT40 history and then play it at #15 seems odd. And that is wrong now that I think about it. "The Sign" spent 13 weeks at #1 in 1994.
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Dec 30, 2019 19:39:07 GMT -5
It was the same situation on the Hot AC decade countdown with a 2019 hit "High Hopes" finishing as the #2 song. Obviously that cannot be based on spins solely. Yeah that pretty much rules out spins, but that song had one of the longest runs at #1 in the decade, so that helped place it where it ended.
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Post by woolebull on Dec 30, 2019 19:41:07 GMT -5
Others have noted the tribute that Ryan did for Casey of the decade end show. I thought it was a great tribute: playing the opening intro to the 7/4/70 show, and then following it with Wiz Khalifa's "See You Again". I get it was five and a half years in the making, but I thought it was one of the best tributes I have ever heard on American Top 40 from any era. Kudos to Ryan and the AT 40 staff for that wonderful tribute.
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Post by woolebull on Dec 30, 2019 19:47:54 GMT -5
Did anyone notice that Ryan said that the decade end countdown was the "Top 40 #1 hits of the Decade"? I noticed he said it twice, the last time after the outro of "Shape Of You". I don't know what difference that would have made on this countdown to have #2 or lower songs, but would be interesting to know if any songs that didn't hit number one could have made the cut. It certainly made a difference in the '00 decade show as the number two song of the decade would not have been a part of the equation.
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Post by dukelightning on Dec 30, 2019 19:57:12 GMT -5
It was the same situation on the Hot AC decade countdown with a 2019 hit "High Hopes" finishing as the #2 song. Obviously that cannot be based on spins solely. Yeah that pretty much rules out spins, but that song had one of the longest runs at #1 in the decade, so that helped place it where it ended. So a combination of spins and chart performance must be the formula. Ryan alluded to a similar situation in the 2000s countdown when "Just Dance" was #14. He said "That's remarkable to make it at 14, the song is relatively new". Btw, she also had #12 with "Poker Face" from 2009. She being Lady Gaga!
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Post by woolebull on Dec 31, 2019 0:00:17 GMT -5
8 weeks at #1 and "Apologize" is relegated to an extra?! Ryan says that in the first season of American Idol(2002), he said people could text their response and no one knew what texting was! In its infancy back then. To hear Ryan say "We Belong Together" spent 12 weeks at #1, longer than any #1 song in AT40 history and then play it at #15 seems odd. And that is wrong now that I think about it. "The Sign" spent 13 weeks at #1 in 1994. I would think that because AT 40 used Radio and Record charts for its gauge (or at least from the inception of R and R from 1973 forward), "The Sign"' and its run would not be a part of their chart history. However...Donna Lewis would so Ryan should at least have said that "We Belong Together" tied the mark. Since Donna Lewis was even mentioned on the show, it would have made sense. Something I just thought of: if AT now uses R and R stats, then why was "You Light Up My Life" named the biggest song of the 70's on the 00 decade special? Wasn't "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" the biggest song of the 70's on R and R?
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