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Post by skuncle on Aug 1, 2015 12:22:08 GMT -5
Wow, really bad (unnecessary)edit right before the Osmonds. Originally Casey told a story of how The Osmonds have racked up more gold records than Elvis or the Beatles. The entire story and build up was cut, leaving just ".....The Osmonds" then go into the song. Wow!
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Post by jmack19 on Aug 15, 2015 10:06:25 GMT -5
On the August 9, 1975 show, Casey mentioned that Elton John had been on Hot 100 for 106 straight weeks. Eventually that wound up being 113 weeks & 139 out of 140. Did any act have a longer Hot 100 run after chart creation (Aug 1958) through 1991? Pat Boone & Elvis Presley had most of their long runs prior to the start of Hot 100. I recall Hall & Oates came close in 1982.
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Post by dukelightning on Aug 15, 2015 13:55:53 GMT -5
jmack, I heard that show and that factoid about Elton. He definitely had the best run during the time period you mentioned. I also figured out that he had a streak that has to be the longest in the classic AT40 era. He had a song in the top 40 for at least one week in every month from Dec. 1972 to Feb. 1976. A streak of 39 consecutive months. It is not an AT40 streak because twice during it, he had a song in the top 40 for the just the first week of a month but AT40 did a special that week. So you can't say Elton was on AT40 in 39 months in a row.
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Post by jmack19 on Aug 15, 2015 14:32:19 GMT -5
jmack, I heard that show and that factoid about Elton. He definitely had the best run during the time period you mentioned. I also figured out that he had a streak that has to be the longest in the classic AT40 era. He had a song in the top 40 for at least one week in every month from Dec. 1972 to Feb. 1976. A streak of 39 consecutive months. It is not an AT40 streak because twice during it, he had a song in the top 40 for the just the first week of a month but AT40 did a special that week. So you can't say Elton was on AT40 in 39 months in a row. The ironic thing is the week he was off in 1975 he was still making an impact on the chart as "Bad Blood" went from 25 to 6. One month later "Island Girl" was #1. |
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Post by mkarns on Aug 22, 2015 11:05:41 GMT -5
August 21, 1971 this week.
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Post by skuncle on Aug 23, 2015 9:16:04 GMT -5
Really wish someone "in the know" could explain the criteria for what gets edited out of the SXM shows is. I know that any pre 1970 song gets cut, even if it's just a portion played (although they have let a few sneak in). A few weeks ago they cut out the entire build up to a story about the Osmonds and their gold record status. Presumably this was cut because it mentioned out dated info? Yet in this weeks show the story about the then current Jackson 5 tour was left in.
I can only guess that whoever decides these edits thinks the SXM audience is really stupid. If we were to hear a song from 1969 we'd crash our cars trying to change the station because we tuned in to hear a narrow 1970's playlist! At the same time if we heard Casey (who sounds great for having left this world over a year ago) say that the Osmonds are selling tons of albums, we'd be so confused because we didn't think they were still making albums, but lo and behold, the little man in the radio just said they were selling millions!
Premiere understands that a big part of these countdowns is hearing Casey and his stories. The songs are a bonus. However at SXM the songs seem to be the most important thing (because a good deal of these you'll never hear outside of the countdown). Casey is just taking up time with all that rambling on.
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Post by matt on Aug 25, 2015 15:23:22 GMT -5
Really wish someone "in the know" could explain the criteria for what gets edited out of the SXM shows is. I know that any pre 1970 song gets cut, even if it's just a portion played (although they have let a few sneak in). A few weeks ago they cut out the entire build up to a story about the Osmonds and their gold record status. Presumably this was cut because it mentioned out dated info? Yet in this weeks show the story about the then current Jackson 5 tour was left in. I can only guess that whoever decides these edits thinks the SXM audience is really stupid. If we were to hear a song from 1969 we'd crash our cars trying to change the station because we tuned in to hear a narrow 1970's playlist! At the same time if we heard Casey (who sounds great for having left this world over a year ago) say that the Osmonds are selling tons of albums, we'd be so confused because we didn't think they were still making albums, but lo and behold, the little man in the radio just said they were selling millions! Premiere understands that a big part of these countdowns is hearing Casey and his stories. The songs are a bonus. However at SXM the songs seem to be the most important thing (because a good deal of these you'll never hear outside of the countdown). Casey is just taking up time with all that rambling on. Hard to say, because it's been rather inconsistent over the 5+ years since I've been listening into the SXM shows (though I will admit I don't tune into them much anymore--doesn't seem worth my time). For instance, on some 1979 shows, they've cut the top 3 recap out entirely, while on others they've let it play. It seems like in the past, they didn't cut out intros and stories told by Casey, but now that even seems like a regular thing. And it used to be that if an original extra from a show was a song from the 70's, they'd leave it in (way back when, they'd leave all extras in), whereas now it seems like they are more likely to cut all extras out. |
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Post by mkarns on Aug 25, 2015 16:22:14 GMT -5
From what I've heard lately, most 70s extras (including Archives and LDD's from 1978-79) are left in, while everything from before 1970 and the related letters/stories are cut no matter how popular the song in question has proven to be.
I'm OK with deleting most of the teases that usually led to commercial breaks that aren't there now, though it's kind of weird hearing Casey say "Now we're up to the hit from the band that..." without any preview of the story. But I don't see why they would cut stories that lead to songs that are in the countdown; they aren't THAT pressed for time. I actually haven't noticed most of those occurrences on my own, unless it's something I remember him telling on a Premiere-played broadcast or SXM's editing was awkward.
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Post by skuncle on Aug 25, 2015 18:00:19 GMT -5
Some of the edits are just really bad. Awhile back Rod Stewart's "The First Cut Is The Deepest" was on the chart. The original intro to the song said how Cat Steven wrote the song and played a bit of Cats version. All of that was cut and all that was left was "...and now here's Cats friend, Rod Stewart with his take on The First Cut Is The Deepest at number (whatever)".
To the novice listener you're left asking "Who is this Cat he's talking about?" They could have easily left the story, cut the portion of the song played and it would have been seemless.
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Post by trekkielo on Aug 27, 2015 20:51:57 GMT -5
Some of the edits are just really bad. Awhile back Rod Stewart's "The First Cut Is The Deepest" was on the chart. The original intro to the song said how Cat Steven wrote the song and played a bit of Cats version. All of that was cut and all that was left was "...and now here's Cats friend, Rod Stewart with his take on The First Cut Is The Deepest at number (whatever)". To the novice listener you're left asking "Who is this Cat he's talking about?" They could have easily left the story, cut the portion of the song played and it would have been seemless.
I did not know this, what show was that from?
Another obvious one was Casey's lead-in story to "Give a Little Bit" by Supertramp on August 6th, 1977, "Well now on American Top 40 I have the song by the British group who had to work their way down to success, here's Supertramp and their biggest hit to date, Give a Little Bit", he even teased it the song before, just over a minute cut because of idiots!  
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Post by skuncle on Aug 28, 2015 6:21:53 GMT -5
That was the March 12, 1977 show that aired on SXM on March 16 last year.
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Post by d**ndirtyape on Aug 29, 2015 11:02:29 GMT -5
Today: 8/25/1979
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Post by skuncle on Aug 30, 2015 10:08:55 GMT -5
Well they are getting somewhat better, they left some of the teases in this week. Still a lot of editing, but it's a start.
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Post by matt on Sept 1, 2015 14:06:10 GMT -5
The teases don't bother me too much--those really are/were meant for those listening with commercial breaks--the tease entices listeners to stick around through the ads. I can see how SXM would determine them to not be necessary for their airings of the shows. It's the cutting of listener questions, extras, and most of all, the story intros. If you are going to cut those, than what's the point of even airing AT40s? Why not just play the 40 songs in order and say it's the top 40 from this week in 197X. And the former MTV VJ's tell intro stories for just about every other song during the Big 40 80's countdowns...so why the need to cut Casey's stories out?
They at least left the top 3 recap in during the 8/25/79. They are all over the board in how they edit these shows--part of what makes it so frustrating.
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Post by skuncle on Sept 1, 2015 18:38:16 GMT -5
I completely agree about the stories, it makes zero sense to cut them. What also doesn't make sense is that on the 80's channel when they do 1980 for the countdown, it very often has songs from 1979 which they play. Yet on the 70's channel, they are very rigid of sticking to 1970 thru 1979.
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