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Post by matt on Jun 8, 2015 10:29:32 GMT -5
Hi Matt, I have thought about your theory, and in a vacuum, something that sounds plausible certainly seems to fill the void. My two problems with your theory: I get Sirisus XM as part of my Dish Network Satellite subscription. I record the AT40 shows on my DVR. But, that is where they live. How can you get programming off of a DVR and onto a computer (or phone or tablet?) I had the Sirius XM app for a while, but it sucked. It stopped and buffered all the time, and there was no way to save shows, like AT40. How would collectors be saving these shows in a way that would affect terrestrial radio? Having been around this board for a while now, I've learned that the collectors want the most complete shows possible. If everyone had a 2:38 minute version of a 1972 show, and then some station started playing one that was 2:39, everyone would race to grab the new one and ditch the old one! Collectors want the most complete shows possible. So, in my opinion, all Sirius XM would have to do is make one crappy edit, and that would ruin it for the serious collectors. Trim the guts out of one of the songs, edit the heck out of Casey's intro to any song on the countdown, and that would, in effect, ruin the show for a collector. Why go to the trouble of making those 50 to 100 edits? Maybe there is another reason. I don't know. I don't know what the real motivation that would be behind SXM's chopping up of the shows--my main point is that I believe (and maybe I'm wrong, but just looking at things logically) that SXM is contractually obligated to chop up the shows to the extent they do. I'm guessing that it isn't their choice to edit the heck out of the shows, because it doesn't seem to be worth the time and the effort for them to do so. A couple other thoughts: 1. There are a few different ways to get the recording off your DVR and onto a PC, etc. where it can be saved indefinitely. All you would need to do is run an audio cable from the DVR to a PC or laptop and record on the PC while playing back the show on the DVR. Also, SXM has their online service and there are ways to record those streams as well to get complete shows. I have the app on my phone, but to get the app you need the online streaming service, in which case you can stream the shows (and any other SXM programming) on your PC. I have DSL for my internet and I've almost never had trouble with buffering, stream dropouts, etc. 2. I see what you're saying here, but Premiere does edits to songs in the shows all the time. As long as they don't cut out any of Casey's monologue, I am fine with a half dozen or so song edits throughout the show. If I really want the full songs, I can always edit in the full version in some way. Even so, songs were edited on the original AT40 shows--to me this has very little relative effect on the quality of the shows. And to me as a collector, a few edits here or there don't bother me too much (e.g. if an extra is omitted, one of Casey's intros is cut, etc.). If that happens, there's usually a way to get the missing piece or two and add in at some point. However, if there are between 50 and 100 edits where stories, listener questions, intros, jingles, etc. are all being chopped out, the quality of the show is diminished to the point where it's really not fixable. At that point, a good copy of the show needs to be purchased/acquired. So I disagree that one or two edits is the same as what SXM does to the shows... |
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Post by tzmac on Jun 10, 2015 13:30:54 GMT -5
I recorded Sirius XM from Dish for a while onto DVDR's (my personal use only). And I have coverted a few of those DVD's to CD's. I did this a couple ways (1) my PC soundcard has a recorder so I played the DVD and recorded the audio to mp3 file. (2) There is freeware that will separate the sound from an uploaded DVD on your computer into mp3 or wav files.
One of those I had on DVD and converted was the 'created' Magic Matt AT40 show from 04.04.1970. Of course AT40 didn't start until July, 1970 - but Magic Matt did it as if he was the guest host for Casey this week. He even did lead-in promos - American Top 40 is heard coast to coast on around the world on great radio stations like Sirius XM the 70's.
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Post by matt on Jun 10, 2015 14:39:23 GMT -5
I recorded Sirius XM from Dish for a while onto DVDR's (my personal use only). And I have coverted a few of those DVD's to CD's. I did this a couple ways (1) my PC soundcard has a recorder so I played the DVD and recorded the audio to mp3 file. (2) There is freeware that will separate the sound from an uploaded DVD on your computer into mp3 or wav files. One of those I had on DVD and converted was the 'created' Magic Matt AT40 show from 04.04.1970. Of course AT40 didn't start until July, 1970 - but Magic Matt did it as if he was the guest host for Casey this week. He even did lead-in promos - American Top 40 is heard coast to coast on around the world on great radio stations like Sirius XM the 70's. I remember that show--it was played in 2011 (not sure if it was ever repeated?). I think I recorded it as well... |
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Post by cachiva on Jun 13, 2015 11:01:18 GMT -5
This week, June 10, 1978
Bazinga!
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Post by mkarns on Jun 13, 2015 11:02:53 GMT -5
June 10, 1978 this week. This one has never been played by Premiere, but is nearly redundant to Premiere's B offering this weekend.
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Post by cachiva on Jun 13, 2015 11:47:55 GMT -5
I don't understand. Help me.
It's a show that has never been played, yet you are unhappy.
Isn't there a 1 in 10 chance each week of what could be played?
Are the early 70's "1970, 1971 and 1972"? Well, there couldn't
be a 1970 show until July, so 1 early 70's show, in the past 8
weeks, would appear to be just average, not a drought at all.
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Post by BrettVW on Jun 13, 2015 13:31:45 GMT -5
The first show I ever recorded from SiriusXM was the week prior to this one, May 19, 1979. That was 3 years ago. And it came in at 3:15. They found a way to cut an additional 15 minutes or more from the May 26 show. I don't know why they don't just edit the songs down, and keep in all of the Casey goodness, their so-called "Superstar." It sucks. I've given my own personal theory on this--I am guessing that they are somehow obligated to edit parts of the show out in their contract/agreement with Premiere/Clear Channel (Perhaps there was a perceived rise in the number of people recording the shows that XM originally started airing, so editing was a way of keeping near perfectly complete shows from being recorded? Maybe with Premiere/CC airing the shows terrestrially, there was concern that the value of those shows and the number of listeners would take a hit with full unedited shows being aired on XM?). It doesn't make any sense that they would go to all the effort to chop these shows up to the extent that they do when all it does is greatly diminish the quality and integrity of the shows. If you think about all of the edits (there have to be anywhere between 50 and 100 each week), that's a lot of time that somebody is taking to cut out bits and pieces and still make the shows sound playable. Add to it that SXM is not like terrestrial stations, which are trying to squeeze the various show segments into the allotted time slots along with the necessary advertising, promos, etc. Being a subscriber-based service, SXM can schedule and play shows whenever and however long they wish. One thing I find highly annoying about the way the shows are edited, is that they are wildly inconsistent with their editing methods, particularly with the 4-hour shows. Sometimes they chop the top 3 recap, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they cut extras, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they cut song intros, sometimes they don't. And it really doesn't make any sense for them to cut stories and intros--those are so much of what's at the core of these shows. And besides, their own VJ Big 40 countdown features Mark, Alan, Martha and Nina telling stories of just about every other song throughout those shows, so why wouldn't they allow Casey's stories to be played out? Hence why I am convinced more and more that SXM is required to chop things down, and it's not their choice to do so. Emailing people "in the know" I have been told it is done for no reason other than to pick up the pace of the show. |
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Post by donwa001 on Jun 20, 2015 11:37:34 GMT -5
June 19, 1976 this week
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Post by skuncle on Jun 21, 2015 10:38:47 GMT -5
The major flaw with both the 70's and 80's channels is their very limited playlist. There are many songs that only get played during the countdowns. This weekend on the 80's channel they are doing 1982 and got to hear Stevie Nicks' "After The Glitter Fades". It was her fourth single from her "Bella Donna" and didn't get out of the the 30's on the chart, but it's one of those songs, that was a top 40 single that never gets played. You'd think with the very vast list of songs they have, they would play more than what they do. Both channels are guilty of this.
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Post by mkarns on Jun 21, 2015 13:17:50 GMT -5
I recorded Sirius XM from Dish for a while onto DVDR's (my personal use only). And I have coverted a few of those DVD's to CD's. I did this a couple ways (1) my PC soundcard has a recorder so I played the DVD and recorded the audio to mp3 file. (2) There is freeware that will separate the sound from an uploaded DVD on your computer into mp3 or wav files. One of those I had on DVD and converted was the 'created' Magic Matt AT40 show from 04.04.1970. Of course AT40 didn't start until July, 1970 - but Magic Matt did it as if he was the guest host for Casey this week. He even did lead-in promos - American Top 40 is heard coast to coast on around the world on great radio stations like Sirius XM the 70's. I remember that show--it was played in 2011 (not sure if it was ever repeated?). I think I recorded it as well... Magic Matt even worked in a Long Distance Dedication (the Jackson 5's "I Want You Back" was the "requested" song), notwithstanding the fact that AT40 didn't add that feature until 1978. That particular countdown was never repeated, but of course recently 60s on 6 has added the first half of 1970 to its countdown rotation. Meanwhile, the first two songs 70s on 7 played after the Sunday morning airing of the 6/19/76 AT40 were "Get Up and Boogie" and "Silly Love Songs"--the top two hits on that countdown.  |
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Post by matt on Jun 22, 2015 10:35:30 GMT -5
I remember that show--it was played in 2011 (not sure if it was ever repeated?). I think I recorded it as well... Magic Matt even worked in a Long Distance Dedication (the Jackson 5's "I Want You Back" was the "requested" song), notwithstanding the fact that AT40 didn't add that feature until 1978. That particular countdown was never repeated, but of course recently 60s on 6 has added the first half of 1970 to its countdown rotation. Meanwhile, the first two songs 70s on 7 played after the Sunday morning airing of the 6/19/76 AT40 were "Get Up and Boogie" and "Silly Love Songs"--the top two hits on that countdown. Right--funny that they decided to insert an LDD. Not even Townsend Coleman did that, and LDDs had been included for several months by his show. I wonder if Townsend was impressed by Magic Matt's work btw...  |
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Post by doofus67 on Jun 23, 2015 1:56:56 GMT -5
The major flaw with both the 70's and 80's channels is their very limited playlist. There are many songs that only get played during the countdowns. This weekend on the 80's channel they are doing 1982 and got to hear Stevie Nicks' "After The Glitter Fades". It was her fourth single from her "Bella Donna" and didn't get out of the the 30's on the chart, but it's one of those songs, that was a top 40 single that never gets played. You'd think with the very vast list of songs they have, they would play more than what they do. Both channels are guilty of this. Once the VJ Big 40 goes off, I can't stay with '80s on 8 much longer than 10-15 minutes before I have to switch to something else! |
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Post by jmack19 on Jun 23, 2015 10:32:31 GMT -5
Casey mentioned that Paul McCartney sang lead on a song by the Beatles & a song by Wings on this week's chart. The very first American Top 40 (7/4/70) show had songs by Pipkins, Brotherhood of Man, & White Plains. Tony Burrows sang lead on those hits.
Btw, Brotherhood of Man had a song on the 6/19/76 show but Burrows was not part of the group.
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AT40 ON XM
Jun 26, 2015 19:55:08 GMT -5
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Post by mkarns on Jun 26, 2015 19:55:08 GMT -5
Don't know yet what this weekend's show will be, but next weekend (July 4-5), it's back to 1970 for AT40's debut.
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Post by mga707 on Jun 26, 2015 20:13:21 GMT -5
Just an FYI, the 60s channel is doing a warm up to a potential replay of the debut AT40 show on July 4th, by doing the chart from 6/20/70 on their countdown this weekend. The sad part is it features a bunch of great tunes from 1970 that you'll never hear on the 70s channel except on Casey. I heard this on Wednesday and it was absolutely fantastic! As I don't subscribe to XM/Sirius, I never hear these channels. However, this week I was on vacation 'back East' and on Wednesday evening I was cruising down southbound I-95 in North Carolina in a rented Chrysler 200 singing along to all of these great songs, including Blackbowl's favorite Flaming Ember tune! |
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