AT40 ON XM

[mkarns]

May 21, 1977 this week.

I was hoping for 1979, as they haven't played that in three months, longer than any other year; then again, Premiere did 1979 just last week. Maybe SXM will do 1979 next week--when Premiere gives us more 1977.

Incidentally, in the next few weeks we'll get a 1970 countdown from Lou Simon on 60s on 6, the third such they've done this year. No more 1970 countdowns on that channel after that, of course, as starting in July 70s on 7 will have Casey countdowns from that year to work with.

[donwa001]

May 21, 1977 has quite the Top 10. Eight of the songs in the Top 10 are songs that hit #1. Might be a record.

[jmack19]

^It tied AMERICAN TOP 40 – 9/21/74:

10: HANG ON IN THERE BABY – JOHNNY BRISTOL
9: YOU HAVEN’T DONE NOTHIN’ – STEVIE WONDER
8: CLAP FOR THE WOLFMAN – THE GUESS WHO
7: (YOU’RE) HAVING MY BABY – PAUL ANKA
6: THEN CAME YOU – DIONNE WARWICK AND THE SPINNERS
5: I SHOT THE SHERIFF – ERIC CLAPTON
4: NOTHING FROM NOTHING – BILLY PRESTON
3: I HONESTLY LOVE YOU – OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN
2: ROCK ME GENTLY – ANDY KIM
1: CAN’T GET ENOUGH OF YOUR LOVE, BABE – BARRY WHITE

[d**ndirtyape]

They played 5/21/77 last year! Wow, that's unlike them.

[doofus67]

May 23, 2015 11:25:39 GMT -5 donwa001 said:

May 21, 1977 has quite the Top 10. Eight of the songs in the Top 10 are songs that hit #1. Might be a record.

It turns out there's a four-way tie.  (The Ultimate Music Database, with peak position listings on every weekly chart, made this easy.)

As we know, it first got crazy in late summer and early fall of 1974.

9/7/74...Seven (current #1, one former #1, five future #1's)

9/21/74...Eight (current, 2 former, 5 future)

Then there was the infamous stretch in which the #1 song changed every week for almost three months.

2/1/75...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

3/8/75...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

Moving into 1976, the charts in general began to slow down.  The AM top-40 format was losing ground to FM soft-rock, which featured less rotation and slower turnover of playlists.  The songs began to linger in the top ten longer.

12/20/75...Seven (current, 1 former, 5 future)

12/27/75...Eight (current, 2 former, 5 future)

1/3/76...Eight (current, 3 former, 4 future)

The next wave came in the wake of "Tonight's the Night" falling from the top.

1/22/77...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

1/29/77...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

Then came a streak of #1 turnover to rival 1974-75.

4/2/77...Seven (current, 1 former, 5 future)

4/9/77...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

4/16/77...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

5/21/77...Eight (current -- "Sir Duke", 3 former -- #2 "When I Need You", #8 "Hotel California", #9 "Southern Nights", 4 future -- #4 "Got to Give It Up", #5 "I'm Your Boogie Man", #6 "Dreams", #7 "Gonna Fly Now")

7/2/77...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

"I Just Want to Be Your Everything" and "Best of My Love" put a temporary end to this revolving-door trend.  In fact, by 7/16/77, we were down to four even though "Everything" was still climbing.  (There's a post I wrote on Easter about the chart travels of Andy Gibb and the Emotions.  It's in the Chart Manipulations thread, on page 4.)

In the fall of 1979, "My Sharona" dropped out of #1, and another free-for-all eventually ensued.

10/20/79...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

11/3/79...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

11/10/79...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

11/17/79...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

12/1/79...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

12/8/79...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

12/15/79...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

Speaking strictly of Casey's first turn as host of AT40, were there any weeks when the top ten contained NO former or future #1's?  Glad I asked...

5/7/71..."Just My Imagination" was #15, having just dropped out of the top ten; "Brown Sugar" was #13, one week away from jumping in.

11/5/77..."Star Wars Theme/Cantina Band" was #12, having just dropped out of the top ten; "How Deep Is Your Love" was #11, one week away from jumping in.

7/1/78..."You're the One That I Want" was #11, having just dropped out of the top ten; "Miss You" was #14, one week away from jumping in.

12/12/81..."Private Eyes" was #18, having just dropped out of the top ten; "I Can't Go for That" was #13, one week away from jumping in.

3/19/83..."Baby, Come to Me" was #21, having just dropped out of the top ten.

3/26/83..."Come On Eileen" was #11, one week away from jumping in.

[matt]

May 24, 2015 2:51:02 GMT -5 doofus67 said:

May 23, 2015 11:25:39 GMT -5 donwa001 said:

May 21, 1977 has quite the Top 10. Eight of the songs in the Top 10 are songs that hit #1. Might be a record.

It turns out there's a four-way tie.  (The Ultimate Music Database, with peak position listings on every weekly chart, made this easy.)

As we know, it first got crazy in late summer and early fall of 1974.

9/7/74...Seven (current #1, one former #1, five future #1's)

9/21/74...Eight (current, 2 former, 5 future)

Then there was the infamous stretch in which the #1 song changed every week for almost three months.

2/1/75...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

3/8/75...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

Moving into 1976, the charts in general began to slow down.  The AM top-40 format was losing ground to FM soft-rock, which featured less rotation and slower turnover of playlists.  The songs began to linger in the top ten longer.

12/20/75...Seven (current, 1 former, 5 future)

12/27/75...Eight (current, 2 former, 5 future)

1/3/76...Eight (current, 3 former, 4 future)

The next wave came in the wake of "Tonight's the Night" falling from the top.

1/22/77...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

1/29/77...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

Then came a streak of #1 turnover to rival 1974-75.

4/2/77...Seven (current, 1 former, 5 future)

4/9/77...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

4/16/77...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

5/21/77...Eight (current -- "Sir Duke", 3 former -- #2 "When I Need You", #8 "Hotel California", #9 "Southern Nights", 4 future -- #4 "Got to Give It Up", #5 "I'm Your Boogie Man", #6 "Dreams", #7 "Gonna Fly Now")

7/2/77...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

"I Just Want to Be Your Everything" and "Best of My Love" put a temporary end to this revolving-door trend.  In fact, by 7/16/77, we were down to four even though "Everything" was still climbing.  (There's a post I wrote on Easter about the chart travels of Andy Gibb and the Emotions.  It's in the Chart Manipulations thread, on page 4.)

In the fall of 1979, "My Sharona" dropped out of #1, and another free-for-all eventually ensued.

10/20/79...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

11/3/79...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

11/10/79...Seven (current, 2 former, 4 future)

11/17/79...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

12/1/79...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

12/8/79...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

12/15/79...Seven (current, 3 former, 3 future)

Speaking strictly of Casey's first turn as host of AT40, were there any weeks when the top ten contained NO former or future #1's?  Glad I asked...

5/7/71..."Just My Imagination" was #15, having just dropped out of the top ten; "Brown Sugar" was #13, one week away from jumping in.

11/5/77..."Star Wars Theme/Cantina Band" was #12, having just dropped out of the top ten; "How Deep Is Your Love" was #11, one week away from jumping in.

7/1/78..."You're the One That I Want" was #11, having just dropped out of the top ten; "Miss You" was #14, one week away from jumping in.

12/12/81..."Private Eyes" was #18, having just dropped out of the top ten; "I Can't Go for That" was #13, one week away from jumping in.

3/19/83..."Baby, Come to Me" was #21, having just dropped out of the top ten.

3/26/83..."Come On Eileen" was #11, one week away from jumping in.

Thanks for the info--interesting, and to no surprise as you point out, the number gets high during lots of #1 turnover, and gets low when a song occupied the #1 spot for several weeks. Another stretch of high turnover occurred during the late 80's (1988 in particular), when it was decently rare for a song to spend more than 2 weeks at #1.

You should consider starting a new thread with this topic...

[mellongraig]

May 23, 2015 16:28:38 GMT -5 @d**ndirtyape said:

They played 5/21/77 last year! Wow, that's unlike them.

They must be doing their Memorial Day tradition every year. No offense to them but I think they should have gone with another year instead (maybe 1979)

[doofus67]

Thanks, Matt. That's nice of you. But I think I'll leave it alone for now. This new member's not ready to start any threads.

[jmack19]

May 23, 2015 11:25:39 GMT -5 donwa001 said:

May 21, 1977 has quite the Top 10. Eight of the songs in the Top 10 are songs that hit #1. Might be a record.

It seems like this is brought up at least once or twice a year like this from a year ago:

at40fg.proboards.com/thread/3949/most-number-row-end-show

[mkarns]

May 26, 1979 this week.

[doofus67]

May 29, 2015 13:08:01 GMT -5 jmack19 said:

May 23, 2015 11:25:39 GMT -5 donwa001 said:

May 21, 1977 has quite the Top 10. Eight of the songs in the Top 10 are songs that hit #1. Might be a record.

It seems like this is brought up at least once or twice a year like this from a year ago:

at40fg.proboards.com/thread/3949/most-number-row-end-show

So, it wouldn't be a new thread, would it?

[cachiva]

May 30, 2015 13:59:37 GMT -5 ecio said:

Why did they even bother playing this show? According to the summaries in Pete Battistini's book, they cut out stories about Paul McCartney and George Harrison's efforts to see "Blackboard Jungle", injuries caused by disco, origin of the phrase "knock on wood", Atlanta Rhythm Section sounding like Stevie Nicks and Mike Chapman's songs inspiration. At least the interns whose job it is to butcher the shows earned their money this week.

The first show I ever recorded from SiriusXM was the week prior to this one, May 19, 1979. That was 3 years ago. And it came in at 3:15. They found a way to cut an additional 15 minutes or more from the May 26 show. I don't know why they don't just edit the songs down, and keep in all of the Casey goodness, their so-called "Superstar." It sucks.

[matt]

Jun 2, 2015 1:13:36 GMT -5 cachiva said:

May 30, 2015 13:59:37 GMT -5 ecio said:

Why did they even bother playing this show? According to the summaries in Pete Battistini's book, they cut out stories about Paul McCartney and George Harrison's efforts to see "Blackboard Jungle", injuries caused by disco, origin of the phrase "knock on wood", Atlanta Rhythm Section sounding like Stevie Nicks and Mike Chapman's songs inspiration. At least the interns whose job it is to butcher the shows earned their money this week.

The first show I ever recorded from SiriusXM was the week prior to this one, May 19, 1979. That was 3 years ago. And it came in at 3:15. They found a way to cut an additional 15 minutes or more from the May 26 show. I don't know why they don't just edit the songs down, and keep in all of the Casey goodness, their so-called "Superstar." It sucks.

I've given my own personal theory on this--I am guessing that they are somehow obligated to edit parts of the show out in their contract/agreement with Premiere/Clear Channel (Perhaps there was a perceived rise in the number of people recording the shows that XM originally started airing, so editing was a way of keeping near perfectly complete shows from being recorded? Maybe with Premiere/CC airing the shows terrestrially, there was concern that the value of those shows and the number of listeners would take a hit with full unedited shows being aired on XM?). It doesn't make any sense that they would go to all the effort to chop these shows up to the extent that they do when all it does is greatly diminish the quality and integrity of the shows. If you think about all of the edits (there have to be anywhere between 50 and 100 each week), that's a lot of time that somebody is taking to cut out bits and pieces and still make the shows sound playable. Add to it that SXM is not like terrestrial stations, which are trying to squeeze the various show segments into the allotted time slots along with the necessary advertising, promos, etc. Being a subscriber-based service, SXM can schedule and play shows whenever and however long they wish.

One thing I find highly annoying about the way the shows are edited, is that they are wildly inconsistent with their editing methods, particularly with the 4-hour shows. Sometimes they chop the top 3 recap, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they cut extras, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they cut song intros, sometimes they don't. And it really doesn't make any sense for them to cut stories and intros--those are so much of what's at the core of these shows. And besides, their own VJ Big 40 countdown features Mark, Alan, Martha and Nina telling stories of just about every other song throughout those shows, so why wouldn't they allow Casey's stories to be played out?

Hence why I am convinced more and more that SXM is required to chop things down, and it's not their choice to do so.

[cachiva]

Hi Matt,

I have thought about your theory, and in a vacuum, something that sounds plausible certainly seems to fill the void.

My two problems with your theory:

I get Sirisus XM as part of my Dish Network Satellite subscription. I record the AT40 shows on my DVR. But, that is where they live. How can you get programming off of a DVR and onto a computer (or phone or tablet?) I had the Sirius XM app for a while, but it sucked. It stopped and buffered all the time, and there was no way to save shows, like AT40. How would collectors be saving these shows in a way that would affect terrestrial radio?

Having been around this board for a while now, I've learned that the collectors want the most complete shows possible. If everyone had a 2:38 minute version of a 1972 show, and then some station started playing one that was 2:39, everyone would race to grab the new one and ditch the old one! Collectors want the most complete shows possible. So, in my opinion, all Sirius XM would have to do is make one crappy edit, and that would ruin it for the serious collectors. Trim the guts out of one of the songs, edit the heck out of Casey's intro to any song on the countdown, and that would, in effect, ruin the show for a collector. Why go to the trouble of making those 50 to 100 edits?

Maybe there is another reason. I don't know.

[mkarns]

June 7, 1975 this week. Somewhat odd that just four weeks ago SXM also played 1975, but last week's 1979 show was the first such in three months.