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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Feb 17, 2008 10:56:40 GMT -5
Thanks for asking Skyseth-I have been looking for the jingles as well, preferably for the year end shows. I'm compiling a personal show-the top 100 of the past 25 years.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Feb 6, 2008 23:12:45 GMT -5
Premiere owns the rights to all AT40 and Casey's Top 40 shows and that includes the Shadoe Stevens shows.
Nobody can predict what Premiere may or may not do in the future but based upon what I have seen, they are focusing on Casey Kasem's time counting down the hits on American Top 40. They probably prefer that people conclude that Casey never left American Top 40 and that the two are synonymous. Broadcasts of Shadoe AT40 shows would contradict this. However, on the May 13 2000 show, promoting Rob's "American Top 40: The Countdown of the Century", Casey mention that Shadoe Stevens had hosted American Top 40 at one time but that was before Premiere took formal ownership of American Top 40.
On the other hand, I've never seen any statements from Premiere concerning the airing of either Casey's Top 40 or American Top 40 with Shadoe Stevens, as a result, they are not (at least publicly) ruling out the idea of rebroadcasting those shows. However, Shadoe AT40 and Casey's Top 40 are both primarily 1990s shows and any considerations for broadcast will probably be made when large numbers of people become nostalgic for the 90s and make this known to terrestrial radio.
I have both XM and Sirius and have heard Shadoe Stevens promoting the 70s channel on Sirius. I don't know what that means but it's interesting.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Jan 20, 2008 21:30:13 GMT -5
Probably credited position on the year end charts somehow in order that all years of the 1990s were represented. Just completed a personal chart for the top 100 of the last 25 years and had to apply such weights to give the 1980s and early 1990s hits some chance. Songs from 1994 on average remained on the chart longer than songs from 1982-1994 due to a change in R/R chart methodology at some point in 1994.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Jan 20, 2008 21:25:00 GMT -5
Playing "I Want To Know What Love Is" by Foreigner (#21) as of 8:21pm CST Sunday, January 20, 2008. Must be a show from Nov-Dec 1984, since the song peaked in late Jan or early Feb 1985.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Jan 13, 2008 14:32:50 GMT -5
Probably intended as an advertisement for AT40: The 80s
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Dec 9, 2007 16:07:50 GMT -5
I Am Woman does appear on the Billboard Top 100 for 1972 but not on AT40 Top 80 of 1972. I think that AT40 did its own chart that year.
I Am Woman peaked in Dec 1972, which could have put it in 1973 Survey Period and if AT40 had counted down a Top 80 or Top 100 of 1973, the song would have probably been there, however only a Top 40 was done at the end of 1973. The other week was a Christmas countdown.
Another song that missed the YE was Space Race by Billy Preston which peaked in the top 5 in Nov and Dec 1973, thus stradling two survey periods. However for the same reason as noted above, the song didn't make the 1973 YE and there were so many songs released in 1974 that several top 10 hits and at least one number one didn't make the Top 100 of that year.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Dec 2, 2007 13:45:59 GMT -5
Just checked and they did read the QL about posthumous hits. Therefore, this is not the updated copy.
Guess I was hoping that XM 80s actually cared enough to provide Casey's tribute to John Lennon but I guess they don't. I'm going to email them and complain.
If this had happened in the 70s, I have a feeling that XM 70s PD John Clay would have ensured that the updated copy was played.
Sorry for leading anyone on.
John
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Nov 26, 2007 14:09:46 GMT -5
Those of you who have XM may want to tune into 80s on 8 this Sunday at 11am Central Time. They are going to broadcast the December 13, 1980 show. Those who don't have XM can listen to the broadcast online by going to xmradio.com and following the instructions there. The show will rebroadcast the following Thursday at 9pm Central.
As you know, the show was broadcast just after John Lennon was assassinated and the first version, completed before Lennon's death, included no mention of Lennon's death but did have a QL about "posthumous acts ". After Lennon's death was announced, a replacement disk was sent out eliminating the QL and included a very moving tribute by Casey to the memory of Lennon.
I do remember that this show was included in the Aug 2006 AT40 marathon and the first version was played, disappointing many of us. I can't rule out the possibility that the first version will be played again, however, the description of the show on Xmradio.com mentions Lennon's death. With this in mind, the chances that they will play the second version (including the replacement disk) are greater.
A clue to whether or not they will play the second version will be if the QL on posthumous hits is read. The letter is read earlier in the show than Casey's tribute. If they read the QL, then the tribute will most likely not be given and they will be playing the first version.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Nov 2, 2007 11:21:51 GMT -5
Nor will the 80s on 8 broadcast AT40 on Thursday Nov 8 for the same reason.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Oct 18, 2007 10:02:27 GMT -5
Another would have been "There will be Sad Songs" by Billy Ocean which was number #1 on the first show of July 1986 but didn't get played due to the Giants of Rock and Roll special.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Sept 17, 2007 11:02:56 GMT -5
"One Hell of a Woman" spent lots of time on the Hot 100-28 wks. I think the difference is that Billboard based its year end calculations on the entire Hot 100 whereas AT40 was based only on the Top 40 of the Hot 100. "Why Me", on the other hand, spent lots of time in the Top 40.
Dilemma in chart predictions seems to be the weight that is put on songs that peak at #1, #2..(along with weeks at that position) versus wks on the chart. Apparently, weeks on the chart have predominated for the Billboard and sometimes (but not always) AT40. In my opinion, the two should be equal.
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Sept 15, 2007 19:33:18 GMT -5
I know what you mean, Steve, and there have been several years that I have been disappointed in the rankings of the shows. The main reason I listen to the shows is because of Casey and the way he presents the facts and trivia. The year ends seemed to be better in the early 1980s and times when AT40 did its own chart but even there, many instances existed when songs that ranked lower charted higher.
So, this seems to open a question. Which is more significant- higher ranks (i.e. #1 songs) or weeks on the chart? Both should play some role in determining what songs rank higher on the Year End chart but that is definitely not always the case as you pointed out in 1975. There is simply no way that "Some Kind of Wonderful" could outrank "One of these Nights" unless personal bias had something to do with it.
John
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Sept 15, 2007 13:42:10 GMT -5
Mysterious to say the least how Billboard was able to conclude that Some Kind of Wonderful was a bigger hit than One of these Nites. I have a copy of Pop Annual and used an inverse order point system for both the points on the Hot 100 and only the Top 40 section of the Hot 100. (Pts for each week would be calculated by subtracting the position from 101 for Hot 100 and 41 for Top 40 and adding the points for each week the song was on the Hot 100 or Top 40). In each case, One of these Nites beat out Some Kind of Wonderful.
For 1975, AT40 used the Billboard Year End chart so either someone at Billboard made a mistake, used some sort of system that can't be explained or the chart wasn't actually calculated by formula but based upon some sort of staff preference (apparently someone loved "Some Kind of Wonderful and got others to go along with him or her).
Why Me's high position can possibly be justified by its high number of weeks on the Top 40 (19) and Hot 100 (38). But Some Kind of Wonderful only spent 13 wks on the Hot 100(12 in Top 40) and peaked at #3 while One of these Nites peaked at #1 and spent 17 weeks on the Hot 100 (14 in the Top 40). So the only thing that I can conclude is that Billboard's chart department must have made a mistake or didn't compile the charts scientifically that year.
I too would like to find out what formula was used to calculate year end positions when AT40 did its own charts. Bonus points and the weight given to wks in the Top 40 seems to throw me off. In all, when AT40 would calculate it's own charts, they would seem more accurate, at least to me.
John
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Sept 1, 2007 12:10:11 GMT -5
The tabulations included inverse order points (for each position a song occupied, points would be awarded) plus bonus points for #1s or Top 10s. The chart year was defined as either November of the previous year to November of the current year or December of the previous year to December of the current year
I've tried to figure the system out myself by using different formulas to calculate inverse order points and have come close but never exact.
Good Luck
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Post by Caseyfan4everRyanfanNever on Jul 21, 2007 10:36:58 GMT -5
Hmmm, would be a great idea for a special countdown...
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