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Post by dth1971 on Jan 14, 2018 18:47:23 GMT -5
And do you remember "Dick Clark's National Music Survey" which used the Cash Box charts, I think?
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Post by Hervard on Jan 14, 2018 19:32:24 GMT -5
And do you remember "Dick Clark's National Music Survey" which used the Cash Box charts, I think? I used to have a 1981 version of the show, and I believe they did use Cash Box, I think, but eventually, it switched to the R&R chart in 1982 or 1983 (I know it was by April, 1983, since I have an edition of the show from then and they were using the R&R chart). I believe at one time, the show flipped to AC (circa 1984) and used that chart until Dick Clark took over Countdown America for John Leader, who was gearing up to start his new show "John Leader's Countdown USA" at the beginning of 1986. In early July 1986, the show became an AC show and remained a four hour show, even though the AC chart was a Top 30. The other hour was used for extras. I believe that it was exactly five years later that the show was trimmed to three hours, counting down the Top 20 AC songs and continuing to devote an hour to extras, placed here and there throughout the show. A typical show would have three flashbacks to 1, 5 and 10 (and occasionally 15) years ago, five or six songs by the Spotlight Artist of the week, and the Countdown America Preview (a song between 21 and 30 that had the best chance of charting in the future - sort of equivalent to Rick Dees' Sureshot). For the flashback, Clark usually read off the debut songs of the week they used and playing the most successful of those, but sometimes he'd play the #1 song of that week, a song peaking that week (usually in the Top Ten), the song making the biggest move of the week, or a song spending its last week on the chart. Basically, since he used the same year week after week, he'd try not to play the same song twice in its run. Sometime in 1994, I believe the show became "Dick Clark's US Music Survey" and used pretty much the same format, except the Flashback years varied slightly. That show lasted for about eleven more years, ending its run in 2005. Since Dick Clark was ill near the end of its run, I believe someone else hosted it, but I'm not sure, as I did not have access to that show past early 1997.
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Post by dth1971 on Jan 14, 2018 21:19:48 GMT -5
And do you remember "Dick Clark's National Music Survey" which used the Cash Box charts, I think? I used to have a 1981 version of the show, and I believe they did use Cash Box, I think, but eventually, it switched to the R&R chart in 1982 or 1983 (I know it was by April, 1983, since I have an edition of the show from then and they were using the R&R chart). I believe at one time, the show flipped to AC (circa 1984) and used that chart until Dick Clark took over Countdown America for John Leader, who was gearing up to start his new show "John Leader's Countdown USA" at the beginning of 1986. In early July 1986, the show became an AC show and remained a four hour show, even though the AC chart was a Top 30. The other hour was used for extras. I believe that it was exactly five years later that the show was trimmed to three hours, counting down the Top 20 AC songs and continuing to devote an hour to extras, placed here and there throughout the show. A typical show would have three flashbacks to 1, 5 and 10 (and occasionally 15) years ago, five or six songs by the Spotlight Artist of the week, and the Countdown America Preview (a song between 21 and 30 that had the best chance of charting in the future - sort of equivalent to Rick Dees' Sureshot). For the flashback, Clark usually read off the debut songs of the week they used and playing the most successful of those, but sometimes he'd play the #1 song of that week, a song peaking that week (usually in the Top Ten), the song making the biggest move of the week, or a song spending its last week on the chart. Basically, since he used the same year week after week, he'd try not to play the same song twice in its run. Sometime in 1994, I believe the show became "Dick Clark's US Music Survey" and used pretty much the same format, except the Flashback years varied slightly. That show lasted for about eleven more years, ending its run in 2005. Since Dick Clark was ill near the end of its run, I believe someone else hosted it, but I'm not sure, as I did not have access to that show past early 1997. Don't forget the first 2 years of Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 used Cash Box charts but switched to R&R about 1985.
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Post by Hervard on Jan 15, 2018 10:35:01 GMT -5
^Yes - the first week in 1985 (or the first regular show that year) to be exact. He used R&R up until July, 1994, when he made up his own chart so he'd be two weeks behind R&R (not sure why he didn't just do one of his request specials), and for a few months, he'd switch around songs near the top of the chart (which would account how "Can You Feel The Love Tonight" and "Wild Night" hit #1 even though they were not #1 in R&R). He stopped doing that by the time fall started, and in June, 1995, started using a chart that seemed to favor R&B type songs. That chart was used until July, 1997, when Rick switched back to using the R&R chart, but even then, he'd sometimes switch the positions of certain songs. Then, of course, sometime circa 2005, he started using his own chart, which, to my best of knowledge, he still uses today.
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Post by mga707 on Jan 15, 2018 11:17:10 GMT -5
^Yes - the first week in 1985 (or the first regular show that year) to be exact. He used R&R up until July, 1994, when he made up his own chart so he'd be two weeks behind R&R (not sure why he didn't just do one of his request specials), and for a few months, he'd switch around songs near the top of the chart (which would account how "Can You Feel The Love Tonight" and "Wild Night" hit #1 even though they were not #1 in R&R). He stopped doing that by the time fall started, and in June, 1995, started using a chart that seemed to favor R&B type songs. That chart was used until July, 1997, when Rick switched back to using the R&R chart, but even then, he'd sometimes switch the positions of certain songs. Then, of course, sometime circa 2005, he started using his own chart, which, to my best of knowledge, he still uses today. Cannot fathom wht anyone would want to listen to this. Made-up chart, no way. Who cares?
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 15, 2018 12:50:36 GMT -5
^For a while, I did. Then my collection of AT40/CT40 blew up, and shortly after, Rick went exclusively to the app, plus all the repeated shows - so those things collectively contributed to my lack of interest in his shows.
And his top 40 of 2015 - one of the worst year-end shows I've ever heard. Good music, but not very representative of 2015 - more like 2013 and 2014 (mostly). And the #1 song of the year was a song that just came out a few weeks prior! Some of the "charts" he uses are just thrown together. To me, it's a turn-off.
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Post by dth1971 on Jan 15, 2018 12:53:46 GMT -5
^For a while, I did. Then my collection of AT40/CT40 blew up, and shortly after, Rick went exclusively to the app, plus all the repeated shows - so those things collectively contributed to my lack of interest in his shows. And his top 40 of 2015 - one of the worst year-end shows I've ever heard. Good music, but not very representative of 2015 - more like 2013 and 2014 (mostly). And the #1 song of the year was a song that just came out a few weeks prior! Some of the "charts" he uses are just thrown together. To me, it's a turn-off. What song was that?
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on Jan 15, 2018 12:55:08 GMT -5
Adele's "Hello". Good song, but #1 for the year?!?!
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Post by Michael1973 on Jan 25, 2018 13:31:28 GMT -5
Cannot fathom wht anyone would want to listen to this. Made-up chart, no way. Who cares? The only reason I still listen is because it's the only current countdown show I can stream on my own schedule. AT40 streams, but you pick up the show wherever it happens to be and that doesn't work for me.
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