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Post by SFGuy on Jun 20, 2015 21:52:27 GMT -5
On the 6-22-74 show, 'Already gone' by Eagles debuted at #34, and peaked at #32, the very next week. After 3 weeks in the top 40, on July 13, 1974, it was "Already Gone" from the Top 40.
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Post by davewollenberg on Jun 21, 2015 14:07:05 GMT -5
Clever, trekkielo!
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Post by lasvegaskid on Dec 9, 2015 12:26:38 GMT -5
Here is a twist on the question. On last week's 1985 countdown aired on that station we can't mention, there were 2 tunes making impressive leaps into the top 20. Elt 20-26 and Eurythmics/Aretha 18-24. They would both peak right there as the next week Wrap Her Up was still at #20 and 'Sisters was back down to #24?! Has there every been more than two songs making better than 6 notch jumps into the top 20 and then going no higher?
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Post by matt on Dec 9, 2015 17:05:27 GMT -5
And in 1984, Michael Jackson's "Thriller" entered the Hot 100 at #20, then moved 20-7-5-4-4 and started to drop. That can probably be easily explained by sales and timing; it entered the chart late as Epic delayed release of the single until it was already receiving massive radio and video play, but then the single sales stalled out fast as everybody was buying the album, which had already spun off six hit singles. (The title track did hit #1 in Radio & Records.) The other thing that drove Thriller's high debut was the infamous video to that song. The video came out around the holidays that year and received significant airplay on MTV preceding its release. I always felt like MJ and Epic Records may have been shooting for a Hot 100 debut at #1, which would have been unprecedented at the time, with the way the song's release was delayed over a month after the video came out. I agree with your take that the sales of the album probably caused the song's sales to hit a ceiling, which is why the song stalled at #4. By that time, so many people had already bought the album and didn't have much reason to go and buy the single too.
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Post by johnnywest on Dec 13, 2015 13:10:07 GMT -5
"Rescue Me" by Madonna debuted on the Hot 100 at #15 and peaked at #9.
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Post by Hervard on Dec 13, 2015 20:31:01 GMT -5
And in 1984, Michael Jackson's "Thriller" entered the Hot 100 at #20, then moved 20-7-5-4-4 and started to drop. That can probably be easily explained by sales and timing; it entered the chart late as Epic delayed release of the single until it was already receiving massive radio and video play, but then the single sales stalled out fast as everybody was buying the album, which had already spun off six hit singles. (The title track did hit #1 in Radio & Records.) The other thing that drove Thriller's high debut was the infamous video to that song. The video came out around the holidays that year and received significant airplay on MTV preceding its release. I always felt like MJ and Epic Records may have been shooting for a Hot 100 debut at #1, which would have been unprecedented at the time, with the way the song's release was delayed over a month after the video came out. I agree with your take that the sales of the album probably caused the song's sales to hit a ceiling, which is why the song stalled at #4. By that time, so many people had already bought the album and didn't have much reason to go and buy the single too. Besides, the single version was chopped down - it didn't have the Vincent Price narration at the end. That said, I'm surprised that it got as high as it did.
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Post by adam31 on Dec 17, 2015 14:30:53 GMT -5
The other thing that drove Thriller's high debut was the infamous video to that song. The video came out around the holidays that year and received significant airplay on MTV preceding its release. I always felt like MJ and Epic Records may have been shooting for a Hot 100 debut at #1, which would have been unprecedented at the time, with the way the song's release was delayed over a month after the video came out. I agree with your take that the sales of the album probably caused the song's sales to hit a ceiling, which is why the song stalled at #4. By that time, so many people had already bought the album and didn't have much reason to go and buy the single too. Besides, the single version was chopped down - it didn't have the Vincent Price narration at the end. That said, I'm surprised that it got as high as it did. I am surprised also, I mean, didn't EVERYONE have the album by this time? On the 6-22-74 show, 'Already gone' by Eagles debuted at #34, and peaked at #32, the very next week. After 3 weeks in the top 40, on July 13, 1974, it was "Already Gone" from the Top 40. This is shocking to me, that's one of my favorite Eagles songs. Although picking a favorite Eagles song is like picking a favorite pizza, they're all pretty good. Was the Eagles Greatest Hits LP out at this time? Maybe that's why the single stalled, if so. EDIT: I see the Greatest Hits album was released in 1976, so that is NOT why. It's the second biggest selling album ever. 10 tracks all of them fantastic, I remember burning the cassette out!
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Post by lasvegaskid on May 10, 2020 15:35:07 GMT -5
On this week's 1983 show, Champaign rocketed in at #30, only to peter out at #23. Did anything other song in the classic era debut in the top 30 but fail to crack the top 20?
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Post by JMW on May 10, 2020 16:38:29 GMT -5
Besides, the single version was chopped down - it didn't have the Vincent Price narration at the end. That said, I'm surprised that it got as high as it did. I am surprised also, I mean, didn't EVERYONE have the album by this time? I didn't own it until I got it on cassette in 1991.
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Post by mga707 on May 10, 2020 17:19:08 GMT -5
On this week's 1983 show, Champaign rocketed in at #30, only to peter out at #23. Did anything other song in the classic era debut in the top 30 but fail to crack the top 20? This one nearly fits your criteria: Diana Ross' remake of "Reach Out I'll Be There" debuted at #31 on the week ending 5/15/71, then inched upward to 30, then 29, before dropping to 39 for two weeks and then exiting both the 40 and the entire 'Hot 100'.
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Post by Michael1973 on May 15, 2020 8:41:21 GMT -5
On this week's 1983 show, Champaign rocketed in at #30, only to peter out at #23. Did anything other song in the classic era debut in the top 30 but fail to crack the top 20? Ain't Nobody comes to mind.
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Post by matt on May 15, 2020 9:25:42 GMT -5
After 3 weeks in the top 40, on July 13, 1974, it was "Already Gone" from the Top 40. This is shocking to me, that's one of my favorite Eagles songs. Although picking a favorite Eagles song is like picking a favorite pizza, they're all pretty good. Was the Eagles Greatest Hits LP out at this time? Maybe that's why the single stalled, if so. EDIT: I see the Greatest Hits album was released in 1976, so that is NOT why. It's the second biggest selling album ever. 10 tracks all of them fantastic, I remember burning the cassette out! This post is 4-1/2 years old, but what the heck I'll go ahead and respond to it anyway. You are correct -- the Eagles' first greatest hits LP (1971-75) came out in February 1976, almost two years after "Already Gone" came out. I agree--this was a great song. I wonder if the Eagles' sudden veer toward more of a harder edged rock sound after starting off with more of a country-rock vibe had anything to do with this song not climbing higher. I like the analogy about a pizza -- spot on!
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Post by mga707 on May 15, 2020 11:30:49 GMT -5
This is shocking to me, that's one of my favorite Eagles songs. Although picking a favorite Eagles song is like picking a favorite pizza, they're all pretty good. Was the Eagles Greatest Hits LP out at this time? Maybe that's why the single stalled, if so. EDIT: I see the Greatest Hits album was released in 1976, so that is NOT why. It's the second biggest selling album ever. 10 tracks all of them fantastic, I remember burning the cassette out! This post is 4-1/2 years old, but what the heck I'll go ahead and respond to it anyway. You are correct -- the Eagles' first greatest hits LP (1971-75) came out in February 1976, almost two years after "Already Gone" came out. I agree--this was a great song. I wonder if the Eagles' sudden veer toward more of a harder edged rock sound after starting off with more of a country-rock vibe had anything to do with this song not climbing higher. I like the analogy about a pizza -- spot on! The Eagles were going through a 'cold spell' on the charts--both singles and LP--at the time. After a fairly successful first LP (#22 peak) in 1972 that gave them #12, #9, and #22 singles (in that order), their follow-up LP the next year was both a sales and chart disappointment. "Desperado", a 'semi-concept' album, only reached #41 and the two singles released from it ("Tequila Sunrise" and "Outlaw Man") got only to #64 and #59. Thus, when their third album, "On the Border" was released in spring '74, expectations wee not high. At first, these low expectations were met, as Lead-odd single "Already Gone" petered out at #32 and the next one, "James Dean", could only make #77. The LP had also not sold very well. It wasn't until a third single, "Best OF My Love", was released in November '74 and slowly inched up the chart, eventually hitting #1 at the end of February '75, that the band's fortunes changed. "On the Border" also got a 'second life', reaching #17 on the LP chart in early '75 as well. Asylum Records was probably ready to give up on the group by late '74 when the improbable success of a third single from what had been a 'dud' LP changed everything.
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Post by woody on May 15, 2020 20:08:10 GMT -5
"Erotica" by Madonna. Debuted at #2 and failed to hit #1.
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Post by johnnywest on Dec 24, 2023 13:32:41 GMT -5
The chart run of “Better Place” by NSync on AT40: 15 (tied for highest debut of 2023)-14-16-17-16-19-off
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