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Post by lasvegaskid on Jun 1, 2015 13:04:11 GMT -5
On the 1983 show I noticed three consecutive impressive debuts by Capaldi #34, BeeGees #33, and LRB #32. Yet none would even crack the top 20. Any other examples of this in the classic era?
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Jun 1, 2015 15:16:16 GMT -5
"Jam" by Michael Jackson debuted on AT40 in the summer of 1992 at #23, I believe. It peaked either at #20 or #21 the following week, and fell afterwards. It must have spent more time on AT40 falling than climbing.
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Post by pb on Jun 1, 2015 15:37:42 GMT -5
Although it made the top 20, Billy Joel's "Big Shot" in 1979 debuted at #23 but only spent six weeks on the countdown peaking at #14.
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Post by davewollenberg on Jun 1, 2015 17:19:42 GMT -5
New Edition's 'Hit me off' debuted at #3 on the Hot 100, then started falling.
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Post by matt on Jun 2, 2015 11:55:30 GMT -5
New Edition's 'Hit me off' debuted at #3 on the Hot 100, then started falling. If that was during the Soundscan era (which it had to be based on that chart action), then it wasn't all that uncommon for a song to debut high like that and then start falling. I'm guessing that has had to do with Soundscan putting a greater emphasis on sales, and now internet downloads, which if you think about it, if a hotly anticipated song comes out, most interested buyers are going to purchase the song within the first few days or weeks of its release, but those same people would have no reason to buy it again, especially in this day and age of everything being digital (i.e. you don't have LPs and tapes that would get worn out from a high number of repeated plays and thus might need to be purchased again). Hence the reason you get a relatively high number of songs these days that either debut in the Top 10 and/or songs that peak their debut week and start falling shortly thereafter (as opposed to the pre-Soundscan days when airplay heavily influenced the charts, and individual sales weren't tracked). |
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Post by doofus67 on Jun 9, 2015 2:22:04 GMT -5
On the 1983 show I noticed three consecutive impressive debuts by Capaldi #34, Bee Gees #33, and LRB #32. Yet none would even crack the top 20. Any other examples of this in the classic era? 1970..."Big Yellow Taxi," Neighborhood, debuted at #30, peaked at #29. 1970..."God, Love, and Rock 'n' Roll," Teegarden and Van Winkle, #30, #22. 1971..."Make It Funky," James Brown, #30, #22. 1971..."Loving Her Was Easier," Kris Kristofferson, #30, #26. 1972..."The Witch Queen of New Orleans," Redbone, #29, #21. 1973..."Ghetto Child," Spinners, #30, #29. 1974..."The Americans (A Canadian's Opinion)," Gordon Sinclair, #28, #24. (Concurrent hit version was by Byron MacGregor.) 1975..."Born to Run," Bruce Springsteen, #30, #23. 1979..."Ain't Love a B***h," Rod Stewart, #31, #22. 1982..."What Kind of Fool Am I," Rick Springfield, #31, #21. 1982..."Going to a Go-Go," Rolling Stones, #30, #25. 1982..."Early in the Morning," Gap Band, #31, #24. 1983..."Try Again," Champaign, #30, #23. 1983..."Saved by Zero," #30, #20. 1983..."Ain't Nobody," Rufus and Chaka Khan, #29, #22.
Other notables... 1975..."Something Better to Do," Olivia Newton-John, debuted at #19, peaked at #13. ( ) 1978..."Even Now," Barry Manilow, debuted at #28, peaked at #19. (Arista stopped promoting it after rush-releasing the Copa.) 1978-79..."Please Come Home for Christmas," debuted at #20, peaked at #18. (Self-explanatory?) 1984-85..."Do They Know It's Christmas," Band Aid, debuted at #20, peaked at #13. (Self-explanatory?)
Thanks again to the Ultimate Music Database.
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Post by mga707 on Jun 9, 2015 19:10:37 GMT -5
I know I've mentioned this one before, but another one that fits this part of your list is from 1971: "Sweet Mary" by Wadsworth Mansion, debuted at #15, peaked at #7 two weeks later.
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Post by jmack19 on Jun 12, 2015 15:45:46 GMT -5
On the 1983 show I noticed three consecutive impressive debuts by Capaldi #34, BeeGees #33, and LRB #32. Yet none would even crack the top 20. Any other examples of this in the classic era? The only other chart I know of in the classic era in which 3 songs debuted in the top 35 the same week & not reach the top 20 was the first chart of 1971, when Elvis #35, Curtis Mayfield #34 and Edwin Starr #33 all entered the top 40. |
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Post by bigal on Jun 13, 2015 6:17:29 GMT -5
Rubicon, Im Gonna Take Care of Everything debut at #32, went to #28
Chtanooga choo choo by Tuxedo Junction, debut at #33, and it peaked there
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Post by trekkielo on Jun 13, 2015 11:12:07 GMT -5
When talking about should have been #1 hits under this particular category, I can't help thinking of "Don't Bring Me Down" by Electric Light Orchestra, highest debut in 5 years when it debuted at #18 on 8/11/1979, also highest Hot 100 debuter one week earlier at #41, but only spent 11 weeks in The Top 40 chart, biggest dropper with 26 notches on 10/20/1979, so dropped off its very next week 10/27/1979, peaking at #4!   |
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Post by jmack19 on Jun 13, 2015 12:12:58 GMT -5
When talking about should have been #1 hits under this particular category, I can't help thinking of "Don't Bring Me Down" by Electric Light Orchestra, highest debut in 5 years when it debuted at #18 on 8/11/1979, also highest Hot 100 debuter one week earlier at #41, but only spent 11 weeks in The Top 40 chart, biggest dropper with 26 notches on 10/20/1979, so dropped off its very next week 10/27/1979, peaking at #4! That reminds me of this chart run: 68-43-17-14-10-7-5-5-17-41-45 "Old Days" Chicago 1975 |
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Post by trekkielo on Jun 13, 2015 13:01:20 GMT -5
When talking about should have been #1 hits under this particular category, I can't help thinking of "Don't Bring Me Down" by Electric Light Orchestra, highest debut in 5 years when it debuted at #18 on 8/11/1979, also highest Hot 100 debuter one week earlier at #41, but only spent 11 weeks in The Top 40 chart, biggest dropper with 26 notches on 10/20/1979, so dropped off its very next week 10/27/1979, peaking at #4! That reminds me of this chart run: 68-43-17-14-10-7-5-5-17-41-45 "Old Days" Chicago 1975 Wow, very similar chart run, forgot all about this one, thanks.  Well, at least not too long after, Chicago finally hit #1 with 1976's "If You Leave Me Now" and did so twice more with 1982's "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" and 1988's "Look Away", Electric Light Orchestra however would never hit #1 on Billboard's Hot 100, that #4 was the closest ELO got! |
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Post by mkarns on Jun 14, 2015 20:03:40 GMT -5
In this week's Premiere show, from 6/16/84, one of the optional extras is Kenny Loggins' "I'm Free (Heaven Helps the Man)", which Larry says entered the Hot 100 at #50 that week, the highest such debut. However, it only peaked at #22. I guess it couldn't get out of the shadow of the "Footloose" title song? ("I'm Free" did at least make six top 40 hits from that film.)
And in 1984, Michael Jackson's "Thriller" entered the Hot 100 at #20, then moved 20-7-5-4-4 and started to drop. That can probably be easily explained by sales and timing; it entered the chart late as Epic delayed release of the single until it was already receiving massive radio and video play, but then the single sales stalled out fast as everybody was buying the album, which had already spun off six hit singles. (The title track did hit #1 in Radio & Records.)
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Post by jmorgan on Jun 14, 2015 20:40:38 GMT -5
Here's a high debut/not doing anything pre AT40.
From 6/15/63, Rick Nelson debuting at #28 with "String Along." It only went as high as #25.
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Post by davewollenberg on Jun 20, 2015 13:49:53 GMT -5
On the 6-22-74 show, 'Already gone' by Eagles debuted at #34, and peaked at #32, the very next week.
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