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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 18:18:25 GMT -5
Is this still the biggest hit by a true one hit wonder/disappearing act ever?
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Post by pointpark04 on Jul 9, 2014 19:23:50 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jul 9, 2014 19:42:17 GMT -5
I'd say You Light Up My Life by Debby Boone. It was her only top 40 hit and it was a bigger hit than 2525.
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Post by 1finemrg on Jul 9, 2014 20:31:24 GMT -5
Depends on your definition of "One Hit Wonder". If it's the Wayne Jancik version, then I'd say it's Debby Boone. If it's the way I remember it when I first heard the term (one song to reach the Hot 100), then it's Zager & Evans.
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Post by matt on Jul 9, 2014 20:32:57 GMT -5
Interesting debate--Debby Boone's hit was bigger, but she did have two other songs that charted in 1978. What makes the Zager & Evans' situation unique is that "2525" was their only Hot 100 hit. Was that song the most successful from an artist that never charted before or again (not counting "Mr. Turnkey", which bubbled under in late 1969)?
I've always thought that "2525" had one of the more interesting chart runs. The song began its run by bubbling under at #135, then in 4 weeks on the Hot 100 would hit #1. It spent 6 weeks at #1, then dropped to #39 four weeks after it's last week at #1. Then from #39 it vanished from the chart completely. A total of 12 weeks in the Top 40 and 13 on the Hot 100, and 6 of those at #1. Maybe the textbook definition of "lightning in a bottle"?
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Post by johnnywest on Jul 9, 2014 21:58:44 GMT -5
Interesting debate--Debby Boone's hit was bigger, but she did have two other songs that charted in 1978. If we're only talking about the Top 40 portion of the Hot 100, then there was Los Del Rio who spent 14 weeks at #1 with "Macarena." They might've had a Christmas version of "Macarena" hit the chart, but it was still the same song. |
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Post by artsmusic on Jul 10, 2014 14:20:38 GMT -5
Debby Boone has 2 other Hot 100 entries plus several country chart hits including a #1 country. Los Del Rio charted two different versions of the same song, plus the alternate Christmas version. I stand with Zager and Evans.
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Post by carrie on Jul 10, 2014 17:33:09 GMT -5
All depends on the definition you choose to use.
Joel Whitburn books, for instance, do not list Zager and Evans in this category because 'Mr Turnkey' (follow up to In The Year 2525) 'Bubbled Under' at #106
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Post by at40petebattistini on Jul 10, 2014 17:48:40 GMT -5
When the AT40 staff listed the Greatest Disappearing Acts in 1973 and again in 1975, their requirement for artist inclusion was a one-time hit on Billboard's Hot 100. I'd say that since this is an AT40 message board, following the original criteria is the best option.
By the way, the updated version in 1975 ranked Joan Weber's "Let Me Go Lover" at number one. But 6 weeks at number one on the Hot 100, I believe, supercedes an updated listing.
And one last observation -- why wasn't "Fire" by the Crazy World of Arthur Brown, a #2 song in 1968, included in either of the AT40 disappearing acts specials?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2014 18:04:39 GMT -5
If we were to take that into the 90s and count R&R post 11/30/91...is it still there? I can't remember if Dionne Farris (solo, not with AD), Donna Lewis, or Natalie Imbruglia had any other charting songs off the top of my head. I want to say they did but can't remember.
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Post by jlthorpe on Jul 10, 2014 18:09:32 GMT -5
Natalie Imbruglia had "Wishing I Was There" and "Wrong Impression". Donna Lewis had "Without Love" and, on the Hot 100, "At the Beginning" with Richard Marx. Dionne Farris, like Zager and Evans, had a Bubbling Under hit but no other charted songs on the Hot 100 or R&R.
Another competitor for the title could be Daniel Powter. "Bad Day" spent five weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 (one less than "In the Year 2525"), but 32 weeks on the chart compared to Zager and Evans' 13. And unlike Zager and Evans, he had no other hits, not even on the Bubbling Under chart (although I just checked and he had one other song that hit the Billboard AC chart called "Free Loop").
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Post by slf on Jul 10, 2014 21:13:10 GMT -5
When the AT40 staff listed the Greatest Disappearing Acts in 1973 and again in 1975, their requirement for artist inclusion was a one-time hit on Billboard's Hot 100. I'd say that since this is an AT40 message board, following the original criteria is the best option. By the way, the updated version in 1975 ranked Joan Weber's "Let Me Go Lover" at number one. But 6 weeks at number one on the Hot 100, I believe, supercedes an updated listing. And one last observation -- why wasn't "Fire" by the Crazy World of Arthur Brown, a #2 song in 1968, included in either of the AT40 disappearing acts specials? Maybe the omission of "Fire" was in deference and respect to all the listeners with weak hearts or nervous personalities, given the sudden ghastly, evil-sounding intro. (I've nearly jumped out my skin several times myself over the years courtesy of this hideous song.)  |
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Post by bestmusicexpert on Jul 11, 2014 2:45:14 GMT -5
Eh, Fire is a classic. Amazing tune. A warning would've sufficed before playing it. Or trying to cut out the intro scream.
I usually go with top 40. No one really plays songs from 41-100 then or now.
Also Powter's hit doesn't necessarily win. You have to consider weeks on chart as different due to changes in chart methodology.
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Post by vince on Jul 12, 2014 15:44:00 GMT -5
AT40’s Top 40 Disappearing Acts, 1973 version, was ranked using the common methodology used in the early 1970’s, 100 points for #1, 99 points for #2, down to 1 point for #100, and 100 additional bonus points for each week at #1. Prior to the Hot 100, the Top 100 was used, and the Best Sellers was used for 1955 prior to the Top 100. Using this methodology and AT40’s criteria for a one hit wonder, “In The Year 2525” is the biggest one hit wonder hit. Here is a breakdown of the top 10:
1721 1. In The Year 2525
1634 2. Little Star
1618 3. Let Me go Lover
1557 4. Dominique
1505 5. He’s Got The Whole World In His Hands
1379 6. Oh Julie
1355 7. Susie Darling
1358 8. Sea of Love
1351 9. Marianne
1344 10. Happy, Happy Birthday Baby
“Fire”- Crazy World of Arthur Brown should have been included because it had 1065 points, while the song at #40 , "See you In September” – Tempos had 658 points.
I haven’t figured out the methodology for the 1975 version of the Top 40 Disappearing Acts to determine why the ranking changed. If I do ever I will post it.
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Post by Mike on Jul 12, 2014 17:33:34 GMT -5
Also Powter's hit doesn't necessarily win. You have to consider weeks on chart as different due to changes in chart methodology. What might do it is that "Bad Day" also ranked at #1 for the year for 2006, something "In the Year 2525" failed to do for 1969. I mean yes, it could still be less of a hit than other huge 2000s hits that weren't the biggest in their years or straddled two years, while "2525" could still be more of a hit than other 60s #1s of their years, but I have to think the distinction would count for something. |
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