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Post by JMW on May 14, 2016 14:34:59 GMT -5
Here's a good idea. Air the songs, unedited, and simply reduce the commercial load! Thats a great idea! Then the show would go away altogether and you wouldn't be able to complain about the same things each and every week anymore! No, then he'd complain that the show's not on anymore and that he misses hearing Casey's voice on the radio.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 15:32:51 GMT -5
I was attempting to look at the positive side as opposed to most likely the reality one.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 15:35:30 GMT -5
Dth, in no way is that a good idea. That would be awful and unnecessary to add an hour. Remember when the Dees shows tried that? They are, at most, editing 30-60 seconds of show content an hour. No need to add an entire hour. Dave, the shows have 5 minutes of national commercials built in per hour. Casey's shows have had that format now for nearly 20 years. They aren't going to reduce it, those numbers are needed for revenue to keep the shows going. It's just a fact of life that there will be songs trimmed down from time to time. You know he's going to ignore this and say the same thing again one day like he has the other 856,281 times this has been said, right?
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Post by OnWithTheCountdown on May 14, 2016 21:33:26 GMT -5
Dth, in no way is that a good idea. That would be awful and unnecessary to add an hour. Remember when the Dees shows tried that? They are, at most, editing 30-60 seconds of show content an hour. No need to add an entire hour. Dave, the shows have 5 minutes of national commercials built in per hour. Casey's shows have had that format now for nearly 20 years. They aren't going to reduce it, those numbers are needed for revenue to keep the shows going. It's just a fact of life that there will be songs trimmed down from time to time. I have both the original Weekly Top 40 airing from 5/17/1986 (well, via rick.com a couple of years ago), and the remastered 5-hour version of the same show. Lots of things sound out of place on the latter, especially the looped split logo jingles beginning some segments. All I can say is, yikes!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 21:41:49 GMT -5
Never heard one of those 5 hour shows. In theory I understand what they are doing I think, it seems like they were trying to do kind of what I do just not the same space in years. They were doing I think a real time countdown each week In order. I think 87 was what they doing then. Problem is you have to commit to doing it in order to make it work. They didn't.
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Post by trekkielo on May 22, 2016 11:17:37 GMT -5
On this week's Casey Kasem's AT40 countdown from May 20th, 1978, "Sweet Talkin' Woman" by The Electric Light Orchestra had its 2nd verse edited out and clocked in at only 2:38! Original or Premiere?
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Post by bigal on May 22, 2016 16:48:12 GMT -5
DANCE WITH ME by Peter Brown was edited big time on this wks show
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Post by dth1971 on May 22, 2016 20:45:45 GMT -5
DANCE WITH ME by Peter Brown was edited big time on this wks show I just noticed it as I am listening to this week's AT40: The 70's on WLS 94.7 FM Chicago this Sunday evening.
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Post by vince on May 23, 2016 0:31:15 GMT -5
A couple of edits I noticed in Premiere's 5/20/78 AT40 show were "Deacon Blues" was the Lp version with the second verse cut out. I think it is unlikely the original show used the longer LP version since the 45 version was 6:40. While "With A Little Luck" was the long version on the original show, Premiere's 5/20/78 show had the first cut AT40 usually did, but not the second cut.
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Post by dukelightning on May 26, 2016 13:30:34 GMT -5
^Correct assumption vince. That Lp version was 1 of the 12 longer songs I just edited into the 5/27/78 show along with "Dance With Me" that was noted in the previous 2 posts. I am always editing about that many songs into a 3 hour 1978 show. And it brings up something regarding the timing of when they went to 4 hour shows. Because about a year or so after they did in 1980, AC started to take over the top 40. And you rarely get or want Lp versions of Air Supply, Christopher Cross and all the country crossovers. But in 1978 you had a lot of rock and disco songs like the aforementioned two and others in that show like "Two Out of Three Aint Bad" and "Heartless" that had Lp versions you would rather hear(and thus edit in if you so desire). So changing to 4 hours in some ways was more necessary before it happened then afterward. If they were still at 3 hours in 1980, I would edit in a lot fewer longer songs than in 1978 I am guessing(LDDs notwithstanding).
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Post by trekkielo on May 29, 2016 15:55:27 GMT -5
On this week's Casey Kasem's AT40 countdown from May 29th, 1976, "Strange Magic" by The Electric Light Orchestra had its 2nd verse edited out by Premiere and clocked in at only 2:47, I know because luckily I've got its original copy that clocks in at 3:27, so chop liver with 40 seconds cut-off!
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Post by davewollenberg on May 29, 2016 17:12:22 GMT -5
1st time I've ever 'Bohemian rhapsody' edited on AT40. Was it Premiere's fault? Somebody in the know, please, let us know.
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Post by 80sat40fan on May 29, 2016 17:38:04 GMT -5
^^ Regarding the two posts above: * The original cue sheet shows Bohemian Rhapsody and Still Crazy After All These Years clocking in at 9:13 so I am guessing this is a new edit. * The original cue sheet shows Strange Magic, More More More and Love In The Shadows clocking in at just 9:22. I wonder if this was edited in the original show? Cue sheet here: charismusicgroup.com/Cue%20Sheets/05-29-76.pdfAre there any radio stations which post the new cue sheets for the Premiere shows? That would make it easy to see what was originally edited versus what was trimmed now. There was a station airing the 70s and 80s shows who used to do this but I don't think they do anymore.
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Post by trekkielo on May 29, 2016 20:38:05 GMT -5
^^ Regarding the two posts above: * The original cue sheet shows Strange Magic, More More More and Love In The Shadows clocking in at just 9:22. I wonder if this was edited in the original show? Cue sheet here: charismusicgroup.com/Cue%20Sheets/05-29-76.pdfNo it was not, go back, reread my reply, I'd said I already have an original copy, now I'll add it comes from a vinyl record that crackles.
Edit-Just double checked the KOKZ rebroadcast with this segment that runs between 1:23:55 & 1:32:28, a difference of approximately 8:33, so 50 seconds less than its initial broadcast run cue sheet implies!
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Post by mkarns on Jun 17, 2016 15:17:47 GMT -5
I don't like to complain too much about edits, but the edit of "Beds are Burning" in the 6/18/88 show was really abrupt. Verse, chorus, verse, and then stopped cold, right in the middle of the song.
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