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Post by shemp9971 on Mar 30, 2013 11:23:12 GMT -5
I would just like to say that, while Shadoe is a talented announcer, he was ill-suited to do the show. I do think there was a desperation on ABC's part to have someone well-known replace Casey. Casey is IRREPLACEABLE. I have nothing personal against Shadoe or Ryan Seacrest, but replacing Casey is like trying to replace God as the center of the universe. What happened to the show in it's later years was just SHAMEFUL, not telling listeners that they were changing charts from the Hot 100 to the Radio Monitor chart. It may have made sense financially, but it alienated longtime listeners. No wonder it went off the air in the mid 1990's.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 11:32:24 GMT -5
Pay no attention to the listeners and radio affiliates (so indirectly, listeners who could no longer hear it) they were already alienating by continuing to use the Hot 100? That decision kept the show on longer than it would have been without it. Not announcing it, going away from it, etc did not matter to the overwhelming number of people listening. Only the true diehards knew or cared. I had the show into early 92 and I didn't even realize the chart was changed until I was in Atlanta in May, bought a Billboard magazine, and Shadoe was answering a complaint letter about it.
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Post by mrjukebox on Mar 30, 2013 12:23:45 GMT -5
There's no question that Casey Kasem is far superior than Shadoe Stevens-While Shadoe has a great voice,he can't hold a candle to Casey.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 12:38:29 GMT -5
There's no question that Casey Kasem is far superior than Shadoe Stevens-While Shadoe has a great voice,he can't hold a candle to Casey. True. But that wasn't why AT40 died. I think Shadoe from 88-91 or so was superior to any incarnation of Dees and he's still around.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 12:50:21 GMT -5
Casey Kasem rules, Shadoe Stevens is great on other things though!
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Post by Shadoe Fan on Mar 30, 2013 16:16:25 GMT -5
Shadoe did a great job. The only thing is, nobody can replace Casey. I enjoy listening to Shadoe's shows, and he did a great job near the end considering all the things that were going on behind the scenes.
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Post by pointpark04 on Mar 30, 2013 19:47:02 GMT -5
I liked Shadoe. I liked Casey. They're two different jocks from two different eras. Really - arguing about who was better between the two is like debating Carson and Leno. Two different hosts from two different eras.
The thing is, AT40 was made for Casey Kasem, not Shadoe Stevens. I know Johnny Carson wasn't the first host of The Tonight Show (Jack Parr was) but he is the one most associated with the show.
Leno and Shadoe found themselves in the same boat. I think, measuring the two of them against each other, Stevens did a much better job replacing a legend in his business than has Leno.
Then again, that is just one man's opinion.
P.S. I loved listening to Rick Dees as a teenager. "Dees Sleaze" rocked! LOL
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Post by chrislc on Mar 30, 2013 19:51:02 GMT -5
Shadoe Stevens was no Casey Kasem, but Shadoe also had to play dreck compared to the songs Casey played 1970-1988.
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Post by pointpark04 on Mar 30, 2013 20:03:37 GMT -5
Shadoe Stevens was no Casey Kasem, but Shadoe also had to play dreck compared to the songs Casey played 1970-1988. That's casting quite a large net there, chris. I would take the 1990-91 era over the 1981-82 era, or the 1971-72 era. Or the majority of 1984. Of course, I had to throw THAT year in.
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Post by tarobe on Mar 30, 2013 20:05:38 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Steve Allen was the first host of the Tonight Show.
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Post by pointpark04 on Mar 30, 2013 20:09:01 GMT -5
For what it's worth, Steve Allen was the first host of the Tonight Show. Well, shoot. I can't believe I forgot about him. That's right, he was. I do stand corrected. I don't like to lead people down the wrong path or supply incorrect information. Poo on me!
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Post by tarobe on Mar 30, 2013 20:12:48 GMT -5
To be honest, I think Shadoe sounded more like a DJ and AT40 with him sounded more like a regular radio braoadcast.
Casey Kasem never sounded like a DJ to me. He doesn't have that DJ voice. He always sounded like Robin the Boy Wonder or Shaggy with a lower voice. American Top 40 with Casey never sounded like regular radio, but like a special (which it really was - a pre-recorded, weekly aired special).
But I always liked Casey better. In fact, I stopped listening to it completely after Shadoe took over. So I never knew about the chart change or the show's cancellation until many years later.
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Post by mkarns on Mar 30, 2013 20:42:33 GMT -5
To be honest, I think Shadoe sounded more like a DJ and AT40 with him sounded more like a regular radio braoadcast. Casey Kasem never sounded like a DJ to me. He doesn't have that DJ voice. He always sounded like Robin the Boy Wonder or Shaggy with a lower voice. American Top 40 with Casey never sounded like regular radio, but like a special (which it really was - a pre-recorded, weekly aired special). Though Casey was a DJ before he was an actor, voiceover artist, or anything else that he's well known for. There are, on YouTube and elsewhere, samples of his voice as a DJ pre-AT40. He does sound somewhat different then from his AT40 voice in the 1970s and later, but his voice seems to have evolved with time. There is also perhaps a generational/age aspect to this; I was probably subconsciously familiar with his voice due to cartoons and voiceover promos (including for NBC in the 70s and 80s) before I ever heard him count down music. Those who first became familiar with his cartoon voice may have naturally viewed that rather than music as his voice's most natural function.
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Post by woolebull on Mar 31, 2013 5:22:56 GMT -5
To be honest, I think Shadoe sounded more like a DJ and AT40 with him sounded more like a regular radio braoadcast. Casey Kasem never sounded like a DJ to me. He doesn't have that DJ voice. He always sounded like Robin the Boy Wonder or Shaggy with a lower voice. American Top 40 with Casey never sounded like regular radio, but like a special (which it really was - a pre-recorded, weekly aired special). Though Casey was a DJ before he was an actor, voiceover artist, or anything else that he's well known for. There are, on YouTube and elsewhere, samples of his voice as a DJ pre-AT40. He does sound somewhat different then from his AT40 voice in the 1970s and later, but his voice seems to have evolved with time. There is also perhaps a generational/age aspect to this; I was probably subconsciously familiar with his voice due to cartoons and voiceover promos (including for NBC in the 70s and 80s) before I ever heard him count down music. Those who first became familiar with his cartoon voice may have naturally viewed that rather than music as his voice's most natural function. I agree with that, but Shadoe was like that as well. His voiceover work on "Kentucky Fried Movie" is classic, as well as "Hollywood Squares". Though nowhere near where Casey was in this aspect, when Shadoe took over I was excited about the voice of Shadoe because I knew his voice. I don't know too many people who would choose Shadoe over Casey for AT 40. But I definitely do not think Shadoe was the reason AT 40 ended the way it did. If they had come up with a Hot AC chart, things might have been different. The Hot 100, by 1991, was just not conducive for a show to continue growing in the radio market at the time. That became more so when they switched it 11/30/91. Though I would have paid good money to have a copy of the show when Easy E hit the Top 40 with "Real G's" (not the real title...I'll let you figure it out) if it had just inched up three more notches.
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Post by blackbowl68 on Mar 31, 2013 7:29:11 GMT -5
First off, AT40 tried to make Shadoe sound like a carbon copy of Casey, which was the wrong thing to do. Second, I wasn't a fan of the "on location" shows they did, particularly the Disney World show in early 1991. It didn't sound right to me counting down hits that include dance, hard rock & hip hop while interacting with Mickey Mouse. Third, while I'm not happy with the chart change in late 1991, I understand why they did, but not the change they made in January 1993.
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