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Post by atfanmpls on Apr 18, 2012 23:15:33 GMT -5
I know there may be many things posted in other boards (I do not have time or care about "general discussion")...
I am very sad that Dick Clark passed today - I consider him the second (to Casey) most influential person in music pop culture/history.
Dick showed us many dances, artists, styles, ideas. Casey made us imagine them as we listened. I think I blended the two!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 5:20:06 GMT -5
I mean this in the most respectful way, I would say based on your criteria it's:
1. Dick Clark
2. Don Cornelius
3. Ed Sullivan (maybe)
Casey Kasem doesn't fit in this category but not because he isn't a legend or anything like that. Casey Kasem introduced popular songs on a countdown show. He was not influential in making the artist known and getting their music and image out. The 3 names above were.
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Post by dukelightning on Apr 19, 2012 6:00:16 GMT -5
paul, that's a good point. I don't think anyone but Dick Clark can be #1. It is noteworthy that both Dick and Casey seemed to retain their youthful looks and mentality for many years.
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Post by artsmusic on Apr 19, 2012 6:25:45 GMT -5
One of the most memorable TV events to me was the year that Dick came back on New Year's Eve, after the stroke. For him to show the strength to appear in such a public way and in such a diminished state was touching and a show of humility. His influence over awards shows, announcing, TV production, radio, business, etc. is vast and has been lasting. Very sad over this. How odd that he and Cornelius are gone in the same year.
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Post by OldSchoolAT40Fan on Apr 19, 2012 7:11:48 GMT -5
Don Cornelius's death was very tragic. Dick Clark's death was sudden but peaceful.
Both those legends will be missed for many years to come. New Year's Eve will never be the same without Mr. Clark.
I agree that Dick Clark was a very influential person. He seemed to be charismatic when he was hosting The $25,000 Pyramid on TV. For those not in the know, Game Show Network airs reruns of such show to this day, and I definitely will be watching it on Friday night for sure. I may even record a few episodes as well on Friday and add them to my collection.
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Post by doomsdaymachine on Apr 19, 2012 11:51:27 GMT -5
Though he's not as well-remembered as Clark, Alan Freed's importance and influence cannot be overstated.
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Post by pizzzzza on Apr 19, 2012 18:03:49 GMT -5
Don Cornelius's death was very tragic. Dick Clark's death was sudden but peaceful. quote] Dick Clark had a massive heart attack before he was to have out-patient surgery. |
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Post by quatermass on Apr 19, 2012 20:19:03 GMT -5
Though he's not as well-remembered as Clark, Alan Freed's importance and influence cannot be overstated. You are so right. Alan, Dick and Casey are the three main people who influenced me enough to get into broadcasting. |
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Post by atfanmpls on Apr 19, 2012 20:52:18 GMT -5
I consider Casey and Dick to be most influential to me - and I would think others my age. As the oldest Son of baby boomers, Dick was a staple in my house every Saturday morning.
Big respects to Don and Alan, but I didn't know who they were when I was a kid "taking it all in." - I wish I knew if/when "Soul Train" aired in Minneapolis?
If think if you ask 100 idiots (iphone zombies) on the street, 80% of them have heard Casey and Dick and (unfortunately) it would be hard to find an average Dick that has heard of Don or Alan.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 21:18:00 GMT -5
We disagree. I think there's a large percentage of the people you were just talking about who haven't heard of either. I worked with a guy who turned 18 last year. He thinks any music from the 90s back sucks and has never heard of the legends that had such an impact on our lives. Honestly, I don't think the gap between past and present has ever been wider than now. I'm 34 and while I had no real interest when I was a kid at listening to oldies music I liked some of the songs and vice versa, my parents weren't big fans of Mötley Crue or Aerosmith but they enjoyed new music by Phil Collins, Billy Joel, and others in that feel. Not the case now. The current generation of CHR listeners seems to have almost no interest in anything per-2000 at the latest and think anything older than that sucks. And us older folks, well we know what we think by and large of the newer stuff.
Sorry for the rant, it just seemed to really fit in this discussion.
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Post by doomsdaymachine on Apr 19, 2012 21:40:58 GMT -5
You are so right. Alan, Dick and Casey are the three main people who influenced me enough to get into broadcasting. In my case, it was Alan Freed and Wolfman Jack, with a dollop of Dr. Demento. Oh, and if it matters: Alan Freed has been inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame (as a non-performer). Dick Clark has not. |
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Post by hothitzdj on Apr 19, 2012 22:34:41 GMT -5
Zimmerman brings up a good point about generation differences. This takes me back an AT40 show from 1975 I heard last year. Casey talked Guy Lombardo and his orchestra hosting the NYE's party on CBS TV. I also remember as 1979 turned into 1980 that the DJ on KDWB Minneapolis/St. Paul said "there's Guy Lombardo & The Cars".
With this in mind, at what point did Dick Clark replaces Guy Lombardo as the NYE "thing to watch on TV". Look I have no memory of Guy Lombardo & NYE, I'm not from that generation. However, I take it from what I heard on an AT40 show and heard on the radio that at one time Guy must have been the guy until Dick Clark came into the picture and starting playing that Rock & Roll that the parents hated as they went to ballroom to see and hear band leaders and orchestras.
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Post by RNH on Apr 20, 2012 5:53:14 GMT -5
Dick Clark is very much in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame! He was inducted in 1993.
(Casey, however, is not; that needs to change!)
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Post by quatermass on Apr 20, 2012 6:47:06 GMT -5
We disagree. I think there's a large percentage of the people you were just talking about who haven't heard of either. I worked with a guy who turned 18 last year. He thinks any music from the 90s back sucks and has never heard of the legends that had such an impact on our lives. Honestly, I don't think the gap between past and present has ever been wider than now. I'm 34 and while I had no real interest when I was a kid at listening to oldies music I liked some of the songs and vice versa, my parents weren't big fans of Mötley Crue or Aerosmith but they enjoyed new music by Phil Collins, Billy Joel, and others in that feel. Not the case now. The current generation of CHR listeners seems to have almost no interest in anything per-2000 at the latest and think anything older than that sucks. And us older folks, well we know what we think by and large of the newer stuff. Sorry for the rant, it just seemed to really fit in this discussion. I enjoyed your rant, and find it all very true. I work with a large amount of people 19-25 and share nothing with them as they are uninterested, just as I am totally uninterested in what they like. |
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Post by top40collector on Apr 20, 2012 12:53:21 GMT -5
Casey Kasem was inducted to National Radio Hall Of Fame in 1992.
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