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Post by matt on Jan 7, 2015 12:51:53 GMT -5
Premiere will never know that the listeners want to hear a non-Casey show, unless they run 1, and see the feedback that it gets. Dave--I'm guessing that Premiere has competent people who have researched and studied this. It's not like somebody just makes and off-the-cuff decision on these kinds of things. If playing non-Casey hosted shows were perceived to be a way to get enough ratings to bring in a significant amount of advertising revenue, etc., we would be hearing those shows on a regular basis. Obviously, it has been determined that non-Casey hosted shows will not garner the kind of ratings that would make them worth airing from a business standpoint. Keep in mind, that we who express interest in the guest-hosted and Shadoe-hosted shows are likely in the minority. BrettVW probably offered the best summary--the nostalgia factor of hearing Casey deliver the shows with the old hits is what is most compelling to the casual listener, and we on the boards who are enthusiasts, collectors, AT40 die-hard fans, etc. do not probably fall in the category of "casual listener". But it's those people who Premiere is likely most focused on appealing to for the classic shows. And as some of the other members have now posted, this topic has been beaten to death. As much as I personally would like to hear Shadoe hosted and guest hosted shows, it's not going to happen anytime soon, and probably not ever. For those that do wish to hear those shows, there is always Shannon Lynn and his CMG site where you can purchase just about any AT40 or CT40 show you want...
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Post by johnnywest on Jan 7, 2015 12:58:23 GMT -5
Ok, here are my last two cents on this topic we've had... I wish Premiere would do this or least consider this: (and this might have been on a previous thread as well) For the 70s shows, they have offered two different shows if one is for 78 or 79 (unsure if they still do this).. Why not do this for the 88 or 89 shows too? They could offer them with the 80 and 81 shows.. Some rare stations have played a different, repeated show when these early years are offered I've noticed. Those are my final thoughts. As for 1988 and 1989, I don't think Premiere owns them, whether it's Shadoe Stevens or Casey's Top 40, so that's something to consider. You could ask Scott Lakefield, since his name is in the credits and he probably has a pretty good idea.
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Post by matt on Jan 7, 2015 13:05:27 GMT -5
Prediction for next week's show:
1st Guess: 1/24/81 2nd Guess: 1/24/87
Again, going away from the current date due to the conundrum that is January shows in the 80's series. If they do decide to stick with a date that is close to the 17th/18th, 1/18/86 would seem to be the best possibility, as it was last aired in 2011.
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Post by adam31 on Jan 7, 2015 13:06:09 GMT -5
If it's all about nostalgia for Casey Kasem, then Premiere should offer CT40 and the later American Top 40 (1998-2004) and/or AT10 and AT20 for re-broadcast.
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Post by matt on Jan 7, 2015 13:22:34 GMT -5
If it's all about nostalgia for Casey Kasem, then Premiere should offer CT40 and the later American Top 40 (1998-2004) and/or AT10 and AT20 for re-broadcast. Agree with you 100% - in the case of the CT40 90's shows, the issue there may more be the appeal (or lack thereof) of top 40 music during that decade, but I am of the opinion that they should either air those shows or at least offer them via a website (similar to what Rick Dees does). The newer Casey-hosted AT40 era (1998-2004) may still not be far enough in the rearview yet to have the appeal of 70s-80s music.
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Post by mjl677 on Jan 7, 2015 13:27:54 GMT -5
If it's all about nostalgia for Casey Kasem, then Premiere should offer CT40 and the later American Top 40 (1998-2004) and/or AT10 and AT20 for re-broadcast. The later American Top 40 (1998-2004) cannot be out of the realm of possibility in the future. Premiere owns them&occasionally they do play the 1/1/00 (top songs of the 90s) on iheart radio's AT40 70s/80s station. Only time will tell I guess..
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Post by mjl677 on Jan 7, 2015 13:32:24 GMT -5
Onto next week's predictions, what are the chances of this happening in the next 3 weeks: 1/23/88, 1/23/82, then close out month with 1/31/87.
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Post by 80sat40fan on Jan 7, 2015 13:33:51 GMT -5
KOOL 94.5 has the 1/15/83 playlist posted. The optional extras are:
* "The Woman In Me" by Donna Summer (no one guessed this) * "Breaking Us In Two" by Joe Jackson (bobbo was the only person to guess this song) * "Hungry Like The Wolf" by Duran Duran * "You Are" by Lionel Richie
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Post by BrettVW on Jan 7, 2015 14:54:50 GMT -5
If it's all about nostalgia for Casey Kasem, then Premiere should offer CT40 and the later American Top 40 (1998-2004) and/or AT10 and AT20 for re-broadcast. The problem with this is I'm not really sure what the demand would be to hear songs from that era right now. A "2000's series" wouldn't work because you only have 4 years of Casey, and a 90s series only gets you 2 years. Shannon Lynn has stated that the WW1 shows are out of the picture right now forgetting to re-aired. And AT20 and AT10 just don't really seem to be re-runnable shows on any format right now. Best bet for modern Casey reruns would be on line
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Post by mjl677 on Jan 7, 2015 15:08:18 GMT -5
Just make the American Top 40 (1998-2004) airable, name it 'Casey Kasem's American Top 40 Rewind' and problem solved. There are many '90s&today' type of radio stations out there that would give it a try.
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Post by mkarns on Jan 7, 2015 15:18:16 GMT -5
If it's all about nostalgia for Casey Kasem, then Premiere should offer CT40 and the later American Top 40 (1998-2004) and/or AT10 and AT20 for re-broadcast. The problem with this is I'm not really sure what the demand would be to hear songs from that era right now. A "2000's series" wouldn't work because you only have 4 years of Casey, and a 90s series only gets you 2 years. Shannon Lynn has stated that the WW1 shows are out of the picture right now forgetting to re-aired. And AT20 and AT10 just don't really seem to be re-runnable shows on any format right now. Best bet for modern Casey reruns would be on line Wish some online station on iHeartRadio or something would give them a try, if that's true. The only really viable way to cover the 90s in my view is the Westwood One countdowns, as they cover over four fifths of the decade, preferably if they could be merged with the 1998-99 CT40s. If they're unplayable for whatever reason (legal rights, remastering/sound quality, etc.) then I can't see a good alternative; even Shadoe's AT40 only gets you halfway through the 90s. The decade arrangement is awkward for the later AT40's; someday there may well be a market for retro 2000s airings, but I don't think we're there yet and as you say Casey's AT40s only go through 2003. (Maybe at that point the Ryan Seacrest shows might start to be rerun?) AT20 and AT10 could work at the more AC-oriented formats, I guess, but despite Casey's presence their appeal is probably limited by the fact that a lot of the songs counted down were limited to AC at the time in their appeal and get little if any recurrent play, and so might not spark memories or otherwise resonate with current listeners. I don't see them being rerun anytime soon, except of course for the Christmas-themed shows that are replayed each November and December.
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Post by matt on Jan 7, 2015 16:10:50 GMT -5
Onto next week's predictions, what are the chances of this happening in the next 3 weeks: 1/23/88, 1/23/82, then close out month with 1/31/87. I think we will get the 1/31/87 and one of the two eligible January 1988 shows in the coming weeks. As for the other January show, I will guess that we get 1/24/81. Though 1/23/82 certainly wouldn't be out of the question.
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Post by mjl677 on Jan 7, 2015 18:37:19 GMT -5
I have to agree with you.. It does seem more reasonable to play the 1981 show instead of 1982 later this month. We just had heard the songs from late 81/early 82 back in first weekend of December. It's been awhile since we heard a show from late 1980(excluding the year end countdown) so 1/24/81 makes good sense.
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Post by adam31 on Jan 7, 2015 18:57:58 GMT -5
Onto next week's predictions, what are the chances of this happening in the next 3 weeks: 1/23/88, 1/23/82, then close out month with 1/31/87. I think we will get the 1/31/87 and one of the two eligible January 1988 shows in the coming weeks. As for the other January show, I will guess that we get 1/24/81. Though 1/23/82 certainly wouldn't be out of the question. When did Shannon Lynn say CT40 was not cleared for broadcast? Last I read on this forum, all of them were not remastered yet. I also remember reading that Premiere already owned the rights to Casey's Top 40 and of course they own the shows after March 28, 1998 when AT40 returned (they own the AT40 name). Does anyone know the latest on this or can provide a link?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 19:39:12 GMT -5
There are many CT40s that an original is gone/missing. I'm not talking about the I guess 1 missing show only. There are many, many of them that only OTA exists and it's from a European station called VOA. There are many parts of these shows missing. Outros gone, R&Ds gone, some intros gone, it's not professionally airable. And to painstakingly add them in from other shows wouldn't be worth it IMO. I don't know if they were aired with these all removed or if if was whoever recorded it on presumably cassettes back then.
Between this and just the sheer number of weeks he didn't host each year in the 90s it almost becomes not worth it. And no, I'm not trying to rehash the guest host crap again.
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