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Post by woolebull on Sept 27, 2014 0:11:46 GMT -5
yes, press was a good song.. To each their own I guess. I thought "Press" was a major jump the shark moment for Sir Paul. He did come back with one more good song ("My Brave Face" in 1989), but his days of hitting the radio were just about over. Same thing for another legendary artist at the time--"A Matter Of Trust" was a definite JTS song for Billy Joel. I don't think I can agree with Billy Joel, however I understand where you are coming from: "Trust" ended a good run that started in 1977 or so for Billy on the pop charts, but it's not like he didn't hit again. In fact, two of his biggest pop hits were still to come three and seven years after "Trust". To your argument: Joel's propensity for making albums most assuredly declined after this. This would be the last of 21 singles that saw Joel hit the Top 40 every year from 1977 through 1986. And the two Top 10 hits he had in 1986 were two of the weakest Top 10 hits in the history of the Hot 100 from 1955 to 1987, if you just look at weeks in the Top 40 and the position it went to (according to Joel Whitburn's 1987 book "Billboard's Top 3000 Plus: 1955-1987), "Modern Woman" is the weakest song in the 80's up to that point to hit the Top 10, 1 week Top 10, 9 weeks Top 40, 15 weeks Hot 100. "Trust" would be 11th weakest with stats of : 1, 10, and 18 respectfully. (Note: a majority of songs in those bottom 11 came in 1985-1987 when the charts were flipping very rapidly). Joel also only had 5 hits after "Trust" to hit the Top 40, but again I still felt he was part of the pop landscape for years to come, more so than McCartney. Interesting fact, a few years ago in another question we figured out either "Woman" or "Trust" is the highest charting song that Casey was on the mic for every one of its weeks on AT 40 in the 80's. Casey took quite a bit of vacation so for him to be there for a whole run of a Top 10 song is an interesting side note.
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Post by mkarns on Sept 27, 2014 0:36:05 GMT -5
Same thing for another legendary artist at the time--"A Matter Of Trust" was a definite JTS song for Billy Joel. I don't think I can agree with Billy Joel, however I understand where you are coming from: "Trust" ended a good run that started in 1977 or so for Billy on the pop charts, but it's not like he didn't hit again. In fact, two of his biggest pop hits were still to come three and seven years after "Trust". I don't think "A Matter of Trust" or "The Bridge" really ended anything, even if they arguably underperformed; while three more years would pass before he again hit the top 10, he also went three years between top 10 hits earlier in the 1980s (1980-83), at least if you use the Billboard Hot 100 for reference. His run really didn't end until after the "River of Dreams" album in 1993 (the title track of which was a top 5 hit), and that end appears to have been self-imposed. He hasn't put out a pop or rock album of new material in the 21 years since, though he continues to perform and do other things.
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Post by secretman on Sept 27, 2014 7:01:59 GMT -5
AT40 09-27-1986. On September 28, 2014, WYGC skipped Hour 2, segment 1.
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Post by woolebull on Sept 27, 2014 7:20:48 GMT -5
I don't think I can agree with Billy Joel, however I understand where you are coming from: "Trust" ended a good run that started in 1977 or so for Billy on the pop charts, but it's not like he didn't hit again. In fact, two of his biggest pop hits were still to come three and seven years after "Trust". I don't think "A Matter of Trust" or "The Bridge" really ended anything, even if they arguably underperformed; while three more years would pass before he again hit the top 10, he also went three years between top 10 hits earlier in the 1980s (1980-83), at least if you use the Billboard Hot 100 for reference. His run really didn't end until after the "River of Dreams" album in 1993 (the title track of which was a top 5 hit), and that end appears to have been self-imposed. He hasn't put out a pop or rock album of new material in the 21 years since, though he continues to perform and do other things. I agree with you. When I used the word run I meant it as in having a Top 40 hit in consecutive years. I was trying to say if someone hits the Top 40 for 10 straight years and has 21 Top 40 hits, and then does not chart at all for three years, I understand where the writer is coming from. I agree that while "Turst" was a weak Top 10 song, I don't think it was a let down because it only went to 10. Joel never was one to have an automatic Top 10 hit. Though yo your point of him not having a Top 10 hit in the early part of the decade after "It's Still Rock-N-Roll To Me", "Allentown" should get some type of asterisk. I think it hit 3 on R and R, and 2 on Cashbox. "Allentown" and "Pressure" were, in my opinion, much bigger pop hits in late 1982/83 than "Trust" or "Woman" were in 1986 no matter what the chart numbers say. Maybe "The Bridge" was literally that for Joel. It was what took him to the next part of his career. It definitely didn't end anything. And I don't think he jumped the shark. And yes he still preforms...I was able to see him do "Uptown Girl" in the States for the first time solo since December of 1999 just a few months ago. He still has "it".
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Post by artsmusic on Sept 27, 2014 7:21:12 GMT -5
Is it possible that the show uses a mono or separated stereo mix accidentally on Twist? It sounded that way for sure on WWIS, I've got KCLH recording now so I can report back later!
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Post by davewollenberg on Sept 27, 2014 8:50:28 GMT -5
Why on earth would Premiere pick an extra from the following week, when there were other songs headed for the top 40, the week of 9-27. Doesn't make semse.
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Post by Jeffster on Sept 27, 2014 10:11:30 GMT -5
Chicago should have hung it up when Cetera left (or what they really should have done was allow Peter to do solo work and still remain in the band as he had requested). They became flat out unlistenable without him, and his solo stuff paled in comparison to the majority of Chicago's hits with him. The remake of "25 or 6 to 4" seems like a desperate attempt the remaining members of Chicago made to try to maintain a connection with their fan base in the wake of Cetera's departure. Couldn't disagree more, and it doesn't seem like you are such a "huge fan" of Chicago if you could say such a thing.
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Post by johnnywest on Sept 27, 2014 10:57:19 GMT -5
Why on earth would Premiere pick an extra from the following week, when there were other songs headed for the top 40, the week of 9-27. Doesn't make semse. There's no more appropriate time to play "True Blue" as an optional on any other show but this one. Why should it be disqualified because it would make such a high debut? Just because it was harder to guess doesn't mean it was a bad choice. Sorry, but I happen to like that song and I'm glad it was chosen.
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Post by Jessica on Sept 27, 2014 12:41:57 GMT -5
Is Sunny radiio not working for anyone else, or is it just me?
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Post by 80sat40fan on Sept 27, 2014 13:25:39 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree more, and it doesn't seem like you are such a "huge fan" of Chicago if you could say such a thing. Uh, Jeffster... you attributed a quote to me that I didn't say. Go back to page 1109, and here is what I stated: As a huge fan of Chicago, I was very much looking forward to their first post-Peter Cetera release. I was so disappointed in this song! It has nowhere near the same feel as the original song. I was also upset that a group like Chicago thought they could only get a hit by re-recording a classic. The person who posted after me said: Chicago should have hung it up when Cetera left (or what they really should have done was allow Peter to do solo work and still remain in the band as he had requested). They became flat out unlistenable without him, and his solo stuff paled in comparison to the majority of Chicago's hits with him. The remake of "25 or 6 to 4" seems like a desperate attempt the remaining members of Chicago made to try to maintain a connection with their fan base in the wake of Cetera's departure. So... I wasn't the one who said Chicago should have hung it up. For what it's worth, I really like "Will You Still Love Me", "What Kind Of Man Would I Be" and other songs from the post-Cetera era of Chicago. People are entitled to their opinions here. I would ask that if you are going to quote me in the future that you do so correctly. Thanks.
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Post by Jessica on Sept 27, 2014 14:35:44 GMT -5
That Don Johnson song is freaking hilarious
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Post by Jessica on Sept 27, 2014 14:39:13 GMT -5
Why on earth would Premiere pick an extra from the following week, when there were other songs headed for the top 40, the week of 9-27. Doesn't make semse. There's no more appropriate time to play "True Blue" as an optional on any other show but this one. Why should it be disqualified because it would make such a high debut? Just because it was harder to guess doesn't mean it was a bad choice. Sorry, but I happen to like that song and I'm glad it was chosen. True Blue is one of my favorite Madonna songs, certainly better than Papa Don't Preach IMO
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Post by mga707 on Sept 27, 2014 15:04:52 GMT -5
Is Sunny radiio not working for anyone else, or is it just me? I have it on right now. Flawless so far--about 15 minutes.
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Post by Jessica on Sept 27, 2014 15:15:44 GMT -5
Is Sunny radiio not working for anyone else, or is it just me? I have it on right now. Flawless so far--about 15 minutes. Me too, got it back. Just missed the first hour.
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Post by Jessica on Sept 27, 2014 15:16:35 GMT -5
Wow, some of these LDD's are too much. Hope that girl got her life together.
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